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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 18 2010 19:14 GMT
#75
Im in as well if you still need more.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 21 2010 20:22 GMT
#144
On June 22 2010 04:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2010 03:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
On June 22 2010 03:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On June 21 2010 23:36 Hesmyrr wrote:
~OpZ~
Nice to see you claim pro-town. I had anticipated for someone trying to claim anti-town :p
Also, how does Mafia benefit from knowing who the hidden horocrux is? Well, according to the flavour, Harry Potter the last horocrux did need to be killed by no one other than Voldemort so the person who is horocrux may also need to be killed by Death Eaters in this setup- which is another vast strike against the mass roleclaiming; I doubt Bill Murray would introduce such harsh win condition though.

I will hold off nominating someone until I am pretty certain of one town read. Experience is not bad when we are picking someone to be protected, but most importantly I rather have player I have most confidence in being town-aligned. There seem to be enough good players in this roster anyhow.

*yawn*

Weak attack. How does mafia benefit by knowing who it is? They don't kill him on accident. Everyone claiming, they might know who he is then. Like I said, I just want more discussion before claiming, I'm not against claiming as I have nothing to hide.

Oh, and...Any other attempts? (FoS @ Hesmyrr) [FoS= Finger of Suspicion]

Okay, maybe I was not as much concise as I would have liked. My post was writing down of my impressions as I read along the people's first post, and in fact I am support your argument against role claiming (what you are saying is basically what I am saying). I was curious how you got the impression I was attacking you and your argument, because this post just cries casual glancing over.

Because I'm terribly defensive!?
-_-
At any rate, you asked me how the benefit, and I was in a list of three people with Radfield....And I don't have a good feeling about Radfield this game yet...just a hunch so far...


To be quite fair with concerning Radfield last game...that was just about the first time in 3 or 4 games he wasn't outright killed in the first night. Him being a little bit overzealous in such a circumstance while not necessarily justified is at least understandable. That being said I have no idea whether he is town or not at this point because frankly it's just that early.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 22 2010 03:33 GMT
#181
On June 22 2010 11:07 Thegilaboy wrote:
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On June 22 2010 11:04 Subversion wrote:
Would it be of use though to roleclaim with names if we didn't know the associated powers though?


Might cause the Mafia to slip us as they would have to make up different identities that are good people in Harry Potter. Any inconsistencies or doubles would point towards suspicion.


Here's the problem I have with the mass roleclaiming. The HP universe is a fairly large one. This added to the fact that the list name at the beginning has been removed makes the whole "making some name up" a great deal easier than it was before.

There were a few pro dumbledore characters that were major but weren't necessarily mentioned in that list and unless someone copy and pasted the exact list...and how we would know this list is accurate or not...we're kind of in a bit of a bind in that regard.

It might work though because the blue roles in this game seem a bit flimsy if what I've read so far is correct. I just don't think the mass claim is as beneficial as it was before that list was taken down.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 22 2010 16:57 GMT
#226
On June 22 2010 23:42 DCLXVI wrote:
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On June 22 2010 21:13 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Even if radfield is going to be inactive I can communicate with him regularly. If and when we need to pardon we will use him. I'm going out on a limb here to stress that I will probably be the best person for the position. I am also asking the detective to IMMEDIATELY check me.

Do we have a detective? The role list says Detective: See Legilimency and Occlumency. Legilimency is listed as a mafia spell. From the way medic is defined (see episky, a blue spell) it seems that there is no actual detective that can role check.
Also, can people have multiple spells? Occlumency seems kind of useless unless people can have multiple spells. I am not sure why the mafia would want to try to find out everyone's character. Obviously they would like to know who harry is so they don't kill him, but other than that it only seems to help them guess at blue roles, maybe. (this is assuming that the mafia already have a safe name list)
So is it true that only mafia get the red spells and only townies get the blue spells?




It would make no sense if the town didn't have at least some of the "red" spells. I think the only actual difference between the blue spell and the red spells is only the "moral compass" aspect of it. The town would be extraordinarily weak without a legilimancer at all. Someone with occlumency can block that obviously but if this game is themed based on actual book events the number of people that should have occlumency is very very small.

I don't see why people wouldn't have multiple spells.

I'm voting for Amber[Light] for now. He's really the only candidate that has any plan what so ever that we can follow through so at least we have some sort of direction to go once twilight/night hits. Anything is better than running around without heads on straight.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 22 2010 19:44 GMT
#236
On June 23 2010 04:35 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
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On June 23 2010 04:00 Radfield wrote:
couldn't you just have been mafia AFJ? I would have looked so good....


You could always try your luck this game -_^ if we keep playing together, eventually you'll be right! To be fair, for a few hours I was fairly convinced you were red last game when you turned out green.

Anyway, unless the rest of the town wakes up and starts voting a lot differently, it looks like we'll have amber/radfield as our town leaders. Both of them seem rather pro town at this point, but of course, as always, don't overreact and start PM'ing your roles to them or put complete trust in them.


You aren't supposed to PM at all unless you have a role that allows it in the first place...
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 19:47:18
June 24 2010 19:46 GMT
#362
To expound on the fact that Radfield was elected pretty much out of nowhere is the fact that JeeJee didn't post an explanation as to why he choose radfield and hasn't had a single post of any sort of substance in the entire game. Most of his posts have been about rules and one about laughing while being mod killed. This isn't like him at all. He's typically a far more active player. I think a lot of Radfield being elected had to do with Amber[LighT] running pretty much the platform for the both of them.

I also noticed in the voting thread that Yellowink very nearly blitzed himself into an elected position. If the last two YI votes had gone through and Gilaboy's had been counted he would have been the Pardoner over Radfield in the span of 2 some hours...again with no real explanation except from Opz as to why they even did so. The only reason he wasn't made Pardoner is because the inactive people were late voting.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 19:49:37
June 25 2010 19:47 GMT
#453
On June 26 2010 04:31 YellowInk wrote:
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On June 26 2010 04:15 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I will say this ONCE AGAIN:

IF YOU WERE A DT AND SEARCHED FOR SOMEONE AND DISCOVERED A SHADY CHARACTER.....

..maybe now is the time to come forward?

We can't guarantee you will be safe for another night and we need to get these clues analyzed, especially if you're having trouble figuring out who the characters are.


Considering there is only 4 scum, if you found someone that was a death eater, even Voldemort (whom we can't kill yet), you should definitely come forward. Consider that if you get killed and revealed as a DT (assuming we don't have a second medic that decided to cover), we'll know for sure that that person was Voldemort.

Coming forward will probably just get you roleblocked into oblivion, though. I suspect the death eaters have a great deal of magic at their disposal.

Oh, and consider me half-asking for medic protection again. Though now you can give me just 50% likely protection (if you think I'm town) since there's probably only one medic out there. I advise using an RNG for your final decision on this sort of thing. If a DT shows up, that would obviously be an awesome target for protection too. Lets keep the mafia guessing.


Even if the DT gets roleblocked into oblivion killing just one of the DE's is more than enough trade off for that, especially considering we have more than one DT most likely and I can't see DE's having more than one roleblocker...especially if a DT gets a response back that points toward Nagini or something to that end. Killing a horcrux is nothing short of invaluable.

YI you have been considerably less aggressive this time around than before. If this is just because you're switching it up and would prefer to just lay a bit lower then okay...you haven't done anything I find particularly scummy in this game.

In fact one of the only things I've found very very odd this game is your odd surge of votes you got right before the deadline and be honest...you would have been in the elected position if the voters had been a little bit more cognizant of the time.

I'm not a huge fan of lynching inactives anymore. That style of play used to work back when people were a bit hesitant when they were read...now you don't see that at all anymore. The likely hood that an inactive will flip town is pretty how and we gain pretty much nothing for it.

I'd also like to say that 24 hours passes much quicker than you'd think when you work nights O.o
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 25 2010 19:50 GMT
#454
On June 26 2010 04:47 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 04:31 YellowInk wrote:
On June 26 2010 04:15 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I will say this ONCE AGAIN:

IF YOU WERE A DT AND SEARCHED FOR SOMEONE AND DISCOVERED A SHADY CHARACTER.....

..maybe now is the time to come forward?

We can't guarantee you will be safe for another night and we need to get these clues analyzed, especially if you're having trouble figuring out who the characters are.


Considering there is only 4 scum, if you found someone that was a death eater, even Voldemort (whom we can't kill yet), you should definitely come forward. Consider that if you get killed and revealed as a DT (assuming we don't have a second medic that decided to cover), we'll know for sure that that person was Voldemort.

Coming forward will probably just get you roleblocked into oblivion, though. I suspect the death eaters have a great deal of magic at their disposal.

Oh, and consider me half-asking for medic protection again. Though now you can give me just 50% likely protection (if you think I'm town) since there's probably only one medic out there. I advise using an RNG for your final decision on this sort of thing. If a DT shows up, that would obviously be an awesome target for protection too. Lets keep the mafia guessing.


Even if the DT gets roleblocked into oblivion killing just one of the DE's is more than enough trade off for that, especially considering we have more than one DT most likely and I can't see DE's having more than one roleblocker...especially if a DT gets a response back that points toward Nagini or something to that end. Killing a horcrux is nothing short of invaluable.

YI you have been considerably less aggressive this time around than before. If this is just because you're switching it up and would prefer to just lay a bit lower then okay...you haven't done anything I find particularly scummy in this game.

In fact one of the only things I've found very very odd this game is your odd surge of votes you got right before the deadline and be honest...you would have been in the elected position if the voters had been a little bit more cognizant of the time.

I'm not a huge fan of lynching inactives anymore. That style of play used to work back when people were a bit hesitant when they were read...now you don't see that at all anymore. The likely hood that an inactive will flip town is pretty how and we gain pretty much nothing for it.

I'd also like to say that 24 hours passes much quicker than you'd think when you work nights O.o


PBWOE

Forgive me for the edit, was merely the last sentence and I just woke up. My bad my bad.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 27 2010 21:31 GMT
#594
That... was a fast bandwagon.

Also the day lengths absolutely confuse me. Some nights we can talk, some nights we can't talk. I don't even know what to follow anymore.

The bandwagon from yesterday just got switched until today. Probably moved because it was known that it's pretty easy to push Larkis when the time is needed. Still have no clue what real alignment people have because even with the posts there is very little in the way of tells because of the HUGE bandwagons.

Really let's see if this next night actually brings something because I can barely get a read on anything with the way things have been going at all. I expected a little more time before we reached twilight but the majority was reached extremely quickly..
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 00:14 GMT
#653
On June 29 2010 09:12 Roffles wrote:
Felt like I was reading a really bad fanfiction right there.


Lol that was what I would call mediocre. Bad fanfiction is really really bad.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 00:20 GMT
#660
On June 29 2010 09:16 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
so YI did not die?

This means one of four possibilities:

1) abenson lied
2) YI was protected by a town doctor
3) YI is voldemort
4) YI was protected by a death eater after abenson announced his kill (assuming they have episky)


I was under the impression that Medics could protect themselves....
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 00:26 GMT
#665
On June 29 2010 09:24 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 09:23 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
I seriously regret asking abenson to announce his kill. but still, the fact that YI didn't die is insanely fishy. i doubt a town medic would protect him, since they have no real way of knowing whether he's town (and he's been suspicious). i doubt he protected himself, otherwise he would have said so right? something like "don't waste your shot on me, I'm a medic and will protect myself if you do". It seems obvious that YI is either a death eater or a mason (a mason medic may have protected him).


I roleblocked him last night, so he couldn't possibly protect himself


Oh.... OH well then.

That's an interesting turn of events there though I'm not quite sure what it means. YI has been fishy but Abenson could be straight lying.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 00:48 GMT
#674
On June 29 2010 09:42 JeeJee wrote:
bm can you confirm whether or not we can lynch voldy? it says he cannot die until the horcruxes are gone, so i assume this means lynch won't work -- will the lynch be wasted and we go into twilight with nothing happening or what?


If you're going completely into the book thing what should happen is that his Horcrux should take his place acting as his "life"

Or he could just straight die I like that better -.-

Voldemort was never unkillable, it was just that he was able to resurrect himself upon death...but he used up a Horcrux doing so.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 12:42 GMT
#850
Assuming the Day Vig stuff went through Amber Light should be a smoking husk of a person since he just got AK'd twice...

If he doesn't die he's voldy, that's pretty much the only plausible explanation of living through two of them.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 12:44 GMT
#853
On June 29 2010 21:42 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Seriously casting the AK on me was stupid. You're going to seriously regret that when we NEED those spells.


The fact that they used one on you doesn't bother me.

The fact that you got double tapped...THAT bothers me. Either one of them is full of shit or you just got double tapped with 2 day vig spell that are most certainly a one shot only deal.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 13:49 GMT
#867
On June 29 2010 22:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:
WAIT

NEW DEVELOPMENT
AMBER IS POTTER!!!

HAHAHAHAHA
everyone vote YellowInk for death. That is all.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Amber claiming potter has got to be legit? Why? UH Hello, DUH Harry's in game.

So, if Harry = horcrux, I hope my attack hits. Then we can lynch Voldy and gg it.


Worth a shot I suppose.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 18:51 GMT
#877
and Amber? What's he?
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 20:08 GMT
#934
On June 30 2010 05:03 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Amber, since you're a jack, you're going to protect me tonight (if you live). Yellowink, if you're a medic, your going to protect me. (if you live).

If Amber lives and I die, he's mafia. If I live in the morning, his alignment should be easily ascertained. Gilaboy, or myself will know.

I say if, because one of you is going to die.

Why?

If Amber[Light] really is Harry Potter and I really am town aligned and Harry really did get Imperious Cursed (or BM posts that protego somehow protects against role blocks as AL suggested might be possible), what is wrong with this picture?

What is a jack and how does this protect you?


Because Harry should be completely immune to the imperious curse. If this game is anything at all like the books Harry should have immunity to imperious.

I don't like you YI. You bring up a gambit that states that using it will be a significant cost to the town and I can't think of anything that would hurt the town so badly as to "cost" us unless this is a stall tactic as to not get lynched.

As for name claiming? I'm the brunette bookworm.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 20:47 GMT
#969
I already claimed
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 29 2010 20:52 GMT
#981
On June 30 2010 05:50 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 05:49 johnnyspazz wrote:
can someone tell me what i should do with my vote cause i gotta bounce


Abstain.

Whoever of the two we think could be VM I can attempt a daykill on.

If the kill is successful, then we lynch the other,

If the kill is unsuccessful, then the other might be VM.


Or the person you attempted to kill is VM...he still has a hidden horcrux around.
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