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On May 11 2010 12:48 Korynne wrote: We seem to be a bit behind schedule Incog (haven't seen d3 online all day and we haven't figured out everything yet), no biggie, we'll get things ruffled out.
I've handed d3 my availability so he knows when I can help.
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On May 11 2010 14:30 johnnyspazz wrote: if green and blue pick the same person and red picks a different person in the beginning, doesn't the game end?
not neccesarily as yellow turbans start with their own number etc..
You never know how many people start with what side, how many people are of no house alignment to begin with, or who is of what, etc..
It could end quickly if 3 groups consistantly pick the same person and the last group is always choosing diff people, but unlikely case in this game.
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On May 11 2010 09:02 Korynne wrote: Yeah flamewheel, as someone who is chinese, I personally find this a bit creepy. xD
Edit: It would be so cool to name detectives like, zhu ge liang, etc. xD And you know, whatever other roles according to peeps in the thing. xD Not sure how many people would get it though.
Pang tong, sima yi, zhou yu go go
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You don't deserve zhao yun you shu scum :p
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On May 17 2010 13:24 Scamp wrote: Lu Bu will screw up this game somehow.
Fuck lu bu. Just hold diao chan hostage, GG lu bu
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On May 18 2010 07:10 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2010 05:18 johnnyspazz wrote:On May 18 2010 05:08 Radfield wrote: Time to have someone make a bid for my armies. Convince me why you should get the glory and power of my army.
Who will you kill? Why? i think you should have the power to lead the lynch since you were so good in PYP 1 ##Vote Radfield Sounds good to me Send me your armies!! For I will make this a better game! How you ask? Why by killing those tag-along, verge of getting modkilled, just post enough to get by players. Those players are BORING, and lack both sass AND pizazz. At the end of the day, we'll (I'll) figure out who the least posting and uninspired player is and swoop down to DeathStar their planet. In the unlikely event that everyone is moderately active, I will kill someone else. I'm open to suggestions.
So, you have a plan to kill inactives? Cool.
However, you stress the word I'll" decide who to kill. This strikes me as a Leaderish sort of talk. Why you ask?
Because by stressing that You will decide over the majority, it means you already have a predisposed agenda. This would put you as the head of yellow turbans, wei, wu, or shu.
This could easily be a minor error in your writing, however, it seems unlikely.
Your idea to kill inactives is sound only so long as we haven't narrowed down someone who is an obvious yellow turban. Untop of it, your bandwagon is insanely suspicious for such an early start.
On May 18 2010 12:09 Falcynn wrote:Well, since I don't have to be paranoid about people suspecting me of being mafia for bandwagoning in this setup, I'm just gonna go ahead and jump on the bandwagon and give my army to radfield for no other reason than I have no reason to really target anyone considering the teams aren't even concrete
You didn't read the game, there is no "mafia" per se in this game. there are 4 factions competing, read the rule set. Also, jumping in on bandwagons is retarded this early on in the game.
On May 18 2010 09:52 Trezeguet23 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2010 09:47 Bill Murray wrote: Do not give me your armies Caller is being VERY unhelpful in clarifying my role PM Giving me your armies may kill you, so do not do so. I will also not be able to give my armies to anyone without them being at risk of dying. Like I said, I am not sure of my role PM. I will let you vote for me to give my armies to someone. There is the chance that me giving my armies to them will be detrimental/will lead to them dying; however, as I have already implied, I am not sure of this. Caller was very vague and even said "lalalala" to me.
As it is right now, though, we should vote as if me giving my army is a suicide/day vig, so vote on who you want me to subject my armies upon. Just keep them for yourself since this is very confusing and you can just suicide and save us all. It is the honorable thing to do.
Stop telling people to suicide themselves, Play the game, and if you hate the player get someone to give you armies and off them.
So many spammy people in this thread, with very little real input, what the hell is wrong with you people. Everyone should be posting decently, as spammyness lets people hide far too easily.
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On May 18 2010 14:44 Scamp wrote: BC what do you mean "hide"? Best I can tell there are four leaders right now and that's it. It's not even possible to kill a leader with this first lynch, is it?
I figure most of us simply have nothing to do right now.
If you spam now, chances are, people spam more later. That leads to excuses like "i've been doing this all game lay off" or the like, and just lets people hide more easily (those who fall under similar characteristics radfield mentioned). I get why people would be bored, but seriously? don't start terrible trends so early on, makes too much precident for later days.
As for if a leader can be killed day 1, no clue? It states to kill a faction leader/yellow turban with a lynch requires more armies than that faction total, so if whoever made a lynch had enough armies, technically they could?
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On May 19 2010 00:29 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2010 00:21 Bill Murray wrote: caller can say one thing and have done another the wording BC used in talking to radfield is a dead giveaway of him fishing for information on leaders the main reason we need worry that he could be doing that is because he is the yellow turban leader i will admit that it is a necessity for people to do that from every player slot. it would also be in your benefit to lie, L, about the method he used to pick. based upon my character, though, i can GUARANTEE he handpicked roles. and i can GUARANTEE that they were randomly generated just ask BC how well i randomly generate roles
Trust me, he RNG's. No one deserves to be punished by being hand picked the VI role.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 18 2010 19:39 Bill Murray wrote:I find L and BC's play currently to be aligned with their "blue" play. BC is a "i'll take over while I'm alive" sort of player when he's blue (with a power role). L is more of the laid back style as detective as can be seen from micro mafia 2. Both of them are in tune with this. BC has criticized the town already, denounced the current "leader" (clearly wanting it himself as he did as the detective-mayor), and is trying to sway the spotlight in his direction through having a few drawn out amazing posts in an a la ver mode. His play makes him an obvious number one target on who could potentially be the Faction Leader we need to eliminate. He is also fishing for information in his post directed towards Radfield. BC says: I'll tell you why. Because he is the yellow turban leader, and is fishing to see if Radfield is potentially on his side without him dying (yellow turbans obviously can't recruit leaders). Radfield gives him the advantage in two ways: 1) he is currently swaying the army voting and has power 2) he is a smart, good, solid player who would be a practical addition to BloodyC0bbler's turbans. L has been quiet, and really not posting as much (wanting to stay out of the fray) until I mentioned his name at all. I am surprised people are not donating their armies to a veteran, and are donating to a "new" player "who has played well in the past" in Radfield, who is my 3rd suspect in reasons I will be giving after this is finished on L. L may just be busy living it up (as it's a great time of year), and we can hold him accountable if he doesn't "come out of his blue shell". I would suggest him as a secondary target for "who is a faction leader we need to kill" He is likely Cao Cao in my opinion. Radfield is a little harder to pin, and my reasoning is because of the past success of "good, new players" in getting roles. I gave Korynne a spot in the mafia in my LAMM, and citi.zen has been elected to become mafia in a few games since his success. Hell, flamewheel even let me have a shot. What I'm getting at is Radfield could potentially be Sun Quan or Liu Bei (though I kind of doubt it). Trust me on this one, BloodyC0bbler would be a good lynch for us in terms of balancing the game and lowering the skill ceiling for us relatively noob players. He is most definitely a power role, and is the player I would deem "most likely to be leading the yellow turbans" based NOT ONLY upon his being a good player who is favored but ALSO upon his posting fishing for information out of Radfield. Whoever is elected, I implore you to consider lynching BC.
Big ass post from BM, thats actually not trolling O M G.
There are a few simple problems with your theory. I aim to be a voice of reason almost every game I actively play in regardless of my role. Regardless, I will humour your post.
Radfields general post (Yes he just explained it in a previous post) screamed out potential leader. Then again, its the form of accusation that you need to make at the moment. With this game being the setup that it is, giving someone a day vig power with a semi joke post is retarded.
As for my fishing for info? I do that every game, just like your doing it now. By your own system that would make you a likely suspect to be the yellow turban leader or any of the other three.
L sitting back with next to no posting atm is normal, as hey the game has barely started and there is almost no real content being generated, ie nothing to really talk about other than how dumb the town is.
As for killing me, it wouldn't lower much of a skill ceiling unless you killed the people who are considered to be in the same area I am assumed to have. IE L, by all rights radfield would be close by based on performance, if you just look at the quality of play this game, yourself bill. You just essentially asked to kill all the relatively intelligent posters in starting with me which seems like a very retarded play. However, the chances of myself/radfield/L all being faction leaders are pretty low when Caller RNG's. I will give you marks for good insight though.
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On May 18 2010 22:01 L wrote: Being Cao Cao woulda been pretty sweet, but I never get roles I ask for.
Not even Manuel L. Hackson
In fact I yelled at caller for not giving me Cao Cao, but he told me all the roles were done by RNG exclusively (and as a side note I owe Ace a punches for that). Because of that, I don't think your case against BC is as strong as you've made it out to be.
I still think abenson is a better kill because frankly stupidity like his should be metagamed against. He's basically afk trolling deadweight every game. In terms of the behavioral analysis, all of the pins you put on BC can be put on abenson as well, but abenson doesn't act differently when he's mafia or town. If he's part of the turbans, there's pretty much nothing that'll give him away later on, and he'll always be a "oh, we'll kill him tomorrow" candidate.
That said, under abenson I'd put BC until he makes a reply post.
Apart from those two, Jugan, Scamp and Tricode seem to be worthy people to pressure or kill on day 1. Maybe more pressure when it comes to scamp, but the other two are just as deadweight.
Abenson/Scamp would be the first two on my list based on metagaming.
Both tend to be mostly useless to the town as they don't contribute, or afk their way to whatever their side's overall achievement is. Jugan will hopefully infuriate caller as he did to flamewheel and get himself modkilled, and Tricode will say something stupid to get himself offed.
I would toss Iaaan onto the list as he is pretty much as useless as the others.
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On May 19 2010 04:21 BrownBear wrote: I'm agreeing with the idea of Yellow Turban lynch. Only problem I see with the current logic: It's highly likely that Caller, being Caller (<3) has played favorites and given out roles to people who he thinks are better players/will be more active. Since it's more likely that the veterans will be faction leaders, wouldn't it also be more likely that the Yellow Turban leader is, in fact, someone who WOULD be more active? Even more so considering everyone's saying "YTL must be a lurker, KILL THE LURKERS"...
Just a thought.
Leaders early on are actually better in the hands of quiet players. Otherwise they got offed potentially way to early. Playing favourites to vets would be giving them decent power roles that aren't leaders. Reason for this is a vet is more likely able to play "sides" better when recruited a bunch of times to diff factions, whereas a newbier player wouldn't so making them faction leaders would be better for their ability (just need to hide who they are).
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On May 21 2010 14:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Down With* the infidel L
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On May 21 2010 14:07 L wrote:HAHAHAHA OH WOW. EXACTLY AS EXPECTED.
OMFG I KNOW RIGHT, L IS AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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On May 21 2010 14:11 L wrote: The part where you voted 3 minutes after the tricode post without bothering to even say anything in the thread was pretty gold :3.
I know duder. I'm like the perfect spy, sneaking around with a knife waiting to stab you STAB YOU. You and I both know that any game that you die is hilarious, as such im going with callers theme of hilariously fucked up shit and saying lets kill L
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On May 21 2010 14:16 L wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2010 14:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 21 2010 14:11 L wrote: The part where you voted 3 minutes after the tricode post without bothering to even say anything in the thread was pretty gold :3. I know duder. I'm like the perfect spy, sneaking around with a knife waiting to stab you STAB YOU. You and I both know that any game that you die is hilarious, as such im going with callers theme of hilariously fucked up shit and saying lets kill L Bro. I love you thinking. Hilariousness is 100% assured here. Unless Tricode's neutral vig or insane, in which case its going to just be facepalmy.
He's out in the open trying to lead the town, that leads me to think hes a) legit b) insane c) a really dumb vigi d) got bus'd (rofl i so see caller putting in a driver)
Regardless, the safest act of the players is to 50 50 coin clip on who to kill, you or him lol.
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Oh I forgot e) massive troll
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On May 21 2010 22:19 Abenson wrote: First of all, I would like to point out that L is not yellow Why? I am Taishi Ci, a Yellow Turban killer. I have the ability to visit a person each night, and if he's yellow, he dies. I visited L, and he didn't die. I still believe he's a faction leader, but I want to confirm he's not yellow.
As a note to keep in mind, he also claimed he was protected by a med.
Would that not stop your killing of him ? or does your ability ignore medic protection + extra lives ?
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