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UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
November 24 2009 20:15 GMT
#1
Has anyone here ever got it and succesfuly recovered from it ? If so , how ?
What were your symptoms ? How lond did it last ?

What do u think about the behavioral-exposing therapy that is the most common therapy for this ? I have some doubts about that and I d like to know as much about those who recovered as possible.

Anyone who`s ever got it or had a friend with it, plz share info ( only if you are 100 % sure its true , else plz don`t or at least say u r not sure or don`t know , misinformation is the last thing I d want about that )

Thanks for any responses
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 20:24:33
November 24 2009 20:24 GMT
#2
Well, I wash my hands really often, but I figure it's a good thing and haven't done anything about it.
Sullifam
Mori600
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Japan311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 21:08:34
November 24 2009 21:06 GMT
#3
My cousin seems to have it. She is constantly worried about diseases which is impossible for her to get, checks her temperature every 10 minutes, and washes her hands all the time. She is still like that as of this moment. I am guessing that she got it from her mother and possibly middle school.
Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night. Lite a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
FonzeXD
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States220 Posts
November 24 2009 21:14 GMT
#4
I have it, but, not so horrible. I have to sleep with the lion on my blanket facing down. I always lock and unlock my car and forget if I locked it or not and lock it anyways and unlock it for no reason; I don't even care if I lock my car. I have to peal the banana perfect, if not, I will have some sort of schizophrenic rage attack and catapult the banana to the nearest wall. I always close windows... even if you need them open, I'll close the window anyways, just to do it. I also count my steps and always make sure to not miss a step.

I hate this XD
If I take you for granted, if I fuck up the planet, ain't nothing to it, gangsta rap made me do it.
Mori600
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Japan311 Posts
November 24 2009 21:28 GMT
#5
Hmmmm, now that I am putting a lot of thought into this, I guess I had it before too. Please do not laugh at me for this but I once was so addicted to StarCraft, Phoenix Wright, the Suzumiya Haruhi franchise, and wine all at the same time.
Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a night. Lite a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
OMin
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States545 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 21:36:39
November 24 2009 21:30 GMT
#6
me.

this is sort of a mix between anxiety disorder and OCD, but in 8th grade, i was a germophobe. Like literally, id wash my hands 50+ times a day with soap, clean everything with house cleaner, keep my hands away from my face, especially from my mouth or nose in fear of accidentally getting spit or snot on my finger (no matter how little!)... I even had days where id change my pants like 5 times cuz im afraid each one got "dirty". and id go to the point where if i put something dirty in the laundry, id hate it when my mom washed it cuz she doesnt always wash her hands after doing the laundry, which means she has possible contamination from her dirty clothes on her hands, and whatever she touches from that point on will also be contaminated (ie she touches a chair, my dad sits on it, and then he sits on the couch, now the couch is contaminated, my brother sits on the couch, then on his bed.... YOU GET TEH FUCKING IDEA). I got into this shit cuz other people would always trip out about being clean (girls, not even ones that I liked), and so in consideration of them, i started this habit... which went WAY further than it was supposed to. Id have days where my hands were so dry from the continuous washing that small spots on my knuckle where the skin stretched from opening/closing would sometimes bleed a bit. And not to mention, I had to try and hide these tendencies from people for fear of embarassment... and my family wasn;t much help. dont get me wrong, i totally love my family, but they didnt understand what iw as going through. my dad would just say "dude its not normal to be that clean, just use ur reason and stop"... and i would think "WELL I WISH IT WAS THAT FUCKING EASY", and hed always give me a hard time and get mad/reproachful when he "caught" me being overly clean. I'd have to make excuses/cover ups as to why i was showering again, or why my sheets were in the laundry again... it was SOOO stressful, and I would constantly be asking myself if this was ever going to end. i was so scared that by me touching dirty (say i accidentally touched a piece of gum under the table) and thus inadverdently "infecting" whatever i touched after, I would be "infecting" others because they would touch whatever I accidentally touched with my fingers that made contact with the gum... I had times when id memorize which teachers had hand sanitizer in the classroom and try to de-contaminate these things i touched after touching something "dirty"using that hand sanitizer... again i had to try and do this away from the eyes of others.... it was soooo stressful

id always try to make myself not care (which is the goal of behavioral exposing therapy), and id look on google for cures. I never saw any professional for this, i just dealt with it on my own. I KNEW that behav-exposing would NOT work for me... in fact, it would just make me freak out more and force me to clean myself after exposure.... funny though... i had no qualms about eating with someone else's fork or something like that, because that wouldnt lead to "contamination" of objects that i touched. but anyways... i prayed, i hoped, i despaired, and it seemed not to be getting better.. at some points it was getting worse, as id suddenly hit realizations like "OH SHIT i remember i accidentally got pee on the floor in 5th grade, and i only cleaned it with tissues and water, its probably contaminated and spread by unsuspecting feet ALL OVER THE HOUSE" and id just freak out some more like that.

but i have a bit of bad news for you in terms of my resolution...im still puzzled as to why i got better.... but i went to Korea in 8th grade to visit my relatives during winter break. I still had it bad during the first week or so there... but bit by bit i was able to let it go... i still was more clean-freak that should be healthy, but it was surely going down! I'm not sure what to attribute this to.... it sounds a bit corny to say it was the "magic healing power of family presence", but its a possibility. Maybe it was just the change of scene/setting from what im routinely used to that let me start relinquishing my destructive/stressful habit. I think perhaps it is the latter, which happened on a subconscious scale, because I was not aware of the change... i just all of a sudden stopped caring a bit, and started letting go of my habit.... i was soooo happy that I was free from the prison of this harrowing ritual... i was free again!

right now, im pretty normal... i probably wash my hands more than the average guy, but its nothing crazy like it used to be... i would trip if there was no soap to wash my hands with after peeing in 8th grade, but now im fine with not washing my hands (though I would prefer to use soap if it was there !).

Are we allowed to know what exactly ur OCD situation is?

I hope this helped you in some way, even if my resolution was.... unexplainable

edit - oh sorry, i forgot to say how long it lasted... id say for me around (or a little less than) 6 months.
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 21:49:07
November 24 2009 21:40 GMT
#7
My cousin seems to have it. She is constantly worried about diseases which is impossible for her to get, checks her temperature every 10 minutes, and washes her hands all the time. She is still like that as of this moment. I am guessing that she got it from her mother and possibly middle school.



How is her social life , friends ? Is she alone for most day( being at house in her room is fits being alone ) How is she doing atschool ? Her day-to-day activity, how much is it disturbed , ie does she skip school or not, her grades, entertainment etc ?

How is her mother ? What was she doing to her ? Did her mother try to control her too much ? Was there other control force that was very strict , or something that was harming her freedom ? You say middle school is the reason too, why ? Is she doing this in public, or only at home ?

What are her interests and what was she interested in the past , im curious especially if she was interested in any psychological/religious/phylosophical/ocult/esoteric/moral stuff ?


How is it related to her belief system ? I mean especially what she thinks about topics : 1.what one is supposed to do, what one has to do, what are her duties, how she should be - is she strict about that or not ?
2.God/Religion/Anything that might be its substitute as of her belief ie Nature, Spirit ?

3. What does she think about her symptoms ( washin hands etc) ?


( obviously its hard to know what one actually believes, ppl lie and hide )

Sorry if it by any means sounds rude , you don`t have to reply , I d just be grateful if u did.
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
November 24 2009 21:48 GMT
#8
On November 25 2009 06:30 OMin wrote:
me.

this is sort of a mix between anxiety disorder and OCD, but in 8th grade, i was a germophobe. Like literally, id wash my hands 50+ times a day with soap, clean everything with house cleaner, keep my hands away from my face, especially from my mouth or nose in fear of accidentally getting spit or snot on my finger (no matter how little!)... I even had days where id change my pants like 5 times cuz im afraid each one got "dirty". and id go to the point where if i put something dirty in the laundry, id hate it when my mom washed it cuz she doesnt always wash her hands after doing the laundry, which means she has possible contamination from her dirty clothes on her hands, and whatever she touches from that point on will also be contaminated (ie she touches a chair, my dad sits on it, and then he sits on the couch, now the couch is contaminated, my brother sits on the couch, then on his bed.... YOU GET TEH FUCKING IDEA). I got into this shit cuz other people would always trip out about being clean (girls, not even ones that I liked), and so in consideration of them, i started this habit... which went WAY further than it was supposed to. Id have days where my hands were so dry from the continuous washing that small spots on my knuckle where the skin stretched from opening/closing would sometimes bleed a bit. And not to mention, I had to try and hide these tendencies from people for fear of embarassment... and my family wasn;t much help. dont get me wrong, i totally love my family, but they didnt understand what iw as going through. my dad would just say "dude its not normal to be that clean, just use ur reason and stop"... and i would think "WELL I WISH IT WAS THAT FUCKING EASY", and hed always give me a hard time and get mad/reproachful when he "caught" me being overly clean. I'd have to make excuses/cover ups as to why i was showering again, or why my sheets were in the laundry again... it was SOOO stressful, and I would constantly be asking myself if this was ever going to end. i was so scared that by me touching dirty (say i accidentally touched a piece of gum under the table) and thus inadverdently "infecting" whatever i touched after, I would be "infecting" others because they would touch whatever I accidentally touched with my fingers that made contact with the gum... I had times when id memorize which teachers had hand sanitizer in the classroom and try to de-contaminate these things i touched after touching something "dirty"using that hand sanitizer... again i had to try and do this away from the eyes of others.... it was soooo stressful

id always try to make myself not care (which is the goal of behavioral exposing therapy), and id look on google for cures. I never saw any professional for this, i just dealt with it on my own. I KNEW that behav-exposing would NOT work for me... in fact, it would just make me freak out more and force me to clean myself after exposure.... funny though... i had no qualms about eating with someone else's fork or something like that, because that wouldnt lead to "contamination" of objects that i touched. but anyways... i prayed, i hoped, i despaired, and it seemed not to be getting better.. at some points it was getting worse, as id suddenly hit realizations like "OH SHIT i remember i accidentally got pee on the floor in 5th grade, and i only cleaned it with tissues and water, its probably contaminated and spread by unsuspecting feet ALL OVER THE HOUSE" and id just freak out some more like that.

but i have a bit of bad news for you in terms of my resolution...im still puzzled as to why i got better.... but i went to Korea in 8th grade to visit my relatives during winter break. I still had it bad during the first week or so there... but bit by bit i was able to let it go... i still was more clean-freak that should be healthy, but it was surely going down! I'm not sure what to attribute this to.... it sounds a bit corny to say it was the "magic healing power of family presence", but its a possibility. Maybe it was just the change of scene/setting from what im routinely used to that let me start relinquishing my destructive/stressful habit. I think perhaps it is the latter, which happened on a subconscious scale, because I was not aware of the change... i just all of a sudden stopped caring a bit, and started letting go of my habit.... i was soooo happy that I was free from the prison of this harrowing ritual... i was free again!

right now, im pretty normal... i probably wash my hands more than the average guy, but its nothing crazy like it used to be... i would trip if there was no soap to wash my hands with after peeing in 8th grade, but now im fine with not washing my hands (though I would prefer to use soap if it was there !).

Are we allowed to know what exactly ur OCD situation is?

I hope this helped you in some way, even if my resolution was.... unexplainable

edit - oh sorry, i forgot to say how long it lasted... id say for me around (or a little less than) 6 months.


thx very much , I really appreciate that. I ll write about my ocd tomorrow as I completely don`t have time now . Good to hear that u recovered from this ^^
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
November 24 2009 21:56 GMT
#9
not a lot of people here seem to know what this disorder is... its not acting in an obessive manner. Its having intense anxiety unless you perform some predetermined task again and again, with the irrational [and heres the kicker, you know its irrational] fear that not doing so will bring harm to yourself or a loved one. Its not, oh man i gotta peel this banana right. Its I HAVE to peel this banana 450 times or im going to die!

anyways, no way to recover, at best you can lesson its growth and stall having more elaborate rituals, though its possibly it manifest into another OCD varient. Cant recall the name at the moment but its less ritualistic behaviour and more ritualistic thought, germaphobia, etc.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
November 24 2009 22:01 GMT
#10
On November 25 2009 05:24 ghostWriter wrote:
Well, I wash my hands really often, but I figure it's a good thing and haven't done anything about it.

same for me, sometimes i put my hands in my mouth without noticing it so this make me worried that some day im going to put some virus in my mouth so i wash them a lot.

also stepping into certain places make me return to do a "proper" step, hard to explain but doesn't bother me really,this doesn't happen too much so don't care about going to doctors or proper treatment
Pseudo_Utopia
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada827 Posts
November 24 2009 22:03 GMT
#11
I had this friend back in college who needed to do certain things twice. Sometimes it would be going through a doorway; he'd go through, come back, then go back through and it would be ok. Sometimes it was calling people; I knew when he was phoning me because as soon as I'd answer I'd hear him hang up and then he'd call right back.

Pretty strange, but then again not that big a deal. Usually. The worst thing this made him do is the following: our college was between 2 subway stations. We usually took the south one, but once, he took the north one and went all the way home, and then had to come all the way back to school and take the south one. That's when it hit me that something was seriously off with this guy. Turns out he was also taking some anger-suppressing medications from his difficult childhood in Palestine and Jordan (seeing really violent and crude things at a very young age), so that might have contributed.
Retired SchiSm[LighT]
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 22:04:26
November 24 2009 22:03 GMT
#12
On November 25 2009 06:56 yhnmk wrote:
not a lot of people here seem to know what this disorder is... its not acting in an obessive manner. Its having intense anxiety unless you perform some predetermined task again and again, with the irrational [and heres the kicker, you know its irrational] fear that not doing so will bring harm to yourself or a loved one. Its not, oh man i gotta peel this banana right. Its I HAVE to peel this banana 450 times or im going to die!

anyways, no way to recover, at best you can lesson its growth and stall having more elaborate rituals, though its possibly it manifest into another OCD varient. Cant recall the name at the moment but its less ritualistic behaviour and more ritualistic thought, germaphobia, etc.

there is a treatment, rofl no way to recover it.
im sure some physchiologist use the exposure technique, where you stop doing those behaviors and see that you;re not going to die or anything, then grade how anxious you feel and with time it will go down.
its a process.
Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
November 24 2009 22:06 GMT
#13
I have severe OCD, and I the girl I'm dating has severe Trich which is an impusle control disorder.

I have paranoia about me killing people/harming people, even though I know I'de never hurt a fly. For example when I used to drive, I would constantly be worried I was going to intentionnaly swirve into traffic. When I am alone and have sharp objects around me I worry I'm gonna hurt myself or other people, but I know I never would... My girlfriend washes her hands ~40 times a day and her hands are worn down from washing them so much. She avoids certain numbers and has some pretty intense compulsions.

There are ways of recovering from OCD, I'm a part of a 12 step program that helps SO MUCH. 12 Step programs don't have to be all about God and all that (despite the wording of the steps).
My girlfriend and I are very active in OCD recovery and all that, joining a 12 step program was the best thing I've ever done in my life
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
November 24 2009 22:14 GMT
#14
After a semi-serious sickness a few years ago I've developed hypochondria with some minor OCD symptoms to accompany it. I never saw any doctor with it, but I've pretty much forced exposure therapy onto myself. They were pretty bad times (both the hypochondria, and forcing myself to do things which i didnt want:-p), but I recovered 99,9% in a few months. I've found that admitting and revealing the disorder fully to yourself and that "behavioral therapy" were very useful, logical, straightforward and successful methods for the recovery.
I know this may not sound that serious since I never actually saw a professional with even the diagnosis of my hypochondria/OCD, and also my therapy was self-induced, but I thought I'd share anyway.
BW fighting!
[ZiNC]Ling
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-24 22:28:05
November 24 2009 22:23 GMT
#15
On November 25 2009 06:56 yhnmk wrote:
not a lot of people here seem to know what this disorder is... its not acting in an obessive manner. Its having intense anxiety unless you perform some predetermined task again and again, with the irrational [and heres the kicker, you know its irrational] fear that not doing so will bring harm to yourself or a loved one. Its not, oh man i gotta peel this banana right. Its I HAVE to peel this banana 450 times or im going to die!

anyways, no way to recover, at best you can lesson its growth and stall having more elaborate rituals, though its possibly it manifest into another OCD varient. Cant recall the name at the moment but its less ritualistic behaviour and more ritualistic thought, germaphobia, etc.


I'm afraid you're one of the people who doesn't quite know what this disorder is. OCD can present with obsessions, compulsions, or both. A subset of those with OCD have the problem you described, the need to perform a task repeatedly. Also, there are many ways to recover from this disorder. Medication and therapy can be very effective, and sometimes the disorder simply lessens on its own.

EDIT:
On November 25 2009 06:30 OMin wrote:
me.
+ Show Spoiler +

this is sort of a mix between anxiety disorder and OCD, but in 8th grade, i was a germophobe. Like literally, id wash my hands 50+ times a day with soap, clean everything with house cleaner, keep my hands away from my face, especially from my mouth or nose in fear of accidentally getting spit or snot on my finger (no matter how little!)... I even had days where id change my pants like 5 times cuz im afraid each one got "dirty". and id go to the point where if i put something dirty in the laundry, id hate it when my mom washed it cuz she doesnt always wash her hands after doing the laundry, which means she has possible contamination from her dirty clothes on her hands, and whatever she touches from that point on will also be contaminated (ie she touches a chair, my dad sits on it, and then he sits on the couch, now the couch is contaminated, my brother sits on the couch, then on his bed.... YOU GET TEH FUCKING IDEA). I got into this shit cuz other people would always trip out about being clean (girls, not even ones that I liked), and so in consideration of them, i started this habit... which went WAY further than it was supposed to. Id have days where my hands were so dry from the continuous washing that small spots on my knuckle where the skin stretched from opening/closing would sometimes bleed a bit. And not to mention, I had to try and hide these tendencies from people for fear of embarassment... and my family wasn;t much help. dont get me wrong, i totally love my family, but they didnt understand what iw as going through. my dad would just say "dude its not normal to be that clean, just use ur reason and stop"... and i would think "WELL I WISH IT WAS THAT FUCKING EASY", and hed always give me a hard time and get mad/reproachful when he "caught" me being overly clean. I'd have to make excuses/cover ups as to why i was showering again, or why my sheets were in the laundry again... it was SOOO stressful, and I would constantly be asking myself if this was ever going to end. i was so scared that by me touching dirty (say i accidentally touched a piece of gum under the table) and thus inadverdently "infecting" whatever i touched after, I would be "infecting" others because they would touch whatever I accidentally touched with my fingers that made contact with the gum... I had times when id memorize which teachers had hand sanitizer in the classroom and try to de-contaminate these things i touched after touching something "dirty"using that hand sanitizer... again i had to try and do this away from the eyes of others.... it was soooo stressful

id always try to make myself not care (which is the goal of behavioral exposing therapy), and id look on google for cures. I never saw any professional for this, i just dealt with it on my own. I KNEW that behav-exposing would NOT work for me... in fact, it would just make me freak out more and force me to clean myself after exposure.... funny though... i had no qualms about eating with someone else's fork or something like that, because that wouldnt lead to "contamination" of objects that i touched. but anyways... i prayed, i hoped, i despaired, and it seemed not to be getting better.. at some points it was getting worse, as id suddenly hit realizations like "OH SHIT i remember i accidentally got pee on the floor in 5th grade, and i only cleaned it with tissues and water, its probably contaminated and spread by unsuspecting feet ALL OVER THE HOUSE" and id just freak out some more like that.

but i have a bit of bad news for you in terms of my resolution...im still puzzled as to why i got better.... but i went to Korea in 8th grade to visit my relatives during winter break. I still had it bad during the first week or so there... but bit by bit i was able to let it go... i still was more clean-freak that should be healthy, but it was surely going down! I'm not sure what to attribute this to.... it sounds a bit corny to say it was the "magic healing power of family presence", but its a possibility. Maybe it was just the change of scene/setting from what im routinely used to that let me start relinquishing my destructive/stressful habit. I think perhaps it is the latter, which happened on a subconscious scale, because I was not aware of the change... i just all of a sudden stopped caring a bit, and started letting go of my habit.... i was soooo happy that I was free from the prison of this harrowing ritual... i was free again!

right now, im pretty normal... i probably wash my hands more than the average guy, but its nothing crazy like it used to be... i would trip if there was no soap to wash my hands with after peeing in 8th grade, but now im fine with not washing my hands (though I would prefer to use soap if it was there !).

Are we allowed to know what exactly ur OCD situation is?

I hope this helped you in some way, even if my resolution was.... unexplainable

edit - oh sorry, i forgot to say how long it lasted... id say for me around (or a little less than) 6 months.


I'm so sorry T_T I'm glad you've recovered, and thanks for sharing this. It's a perfect description of what OCD is like.
myfriendPlank
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States550 Posts
November 24 2009 22:34 GMT
#16
Eh. I when I use the bathroom, it involves flushing the toilet -> washing hands -> flush the toilet again -> wash hands again -> Flicker the lights on and off a couple of times -> Close the bathroom door shut. It's not as bad as it used to be, but fuck.
FonzeXD
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States220 Posts
November 24 2009 22:46 GMT
#17
On November 25 2009 06:56 yhnmk wrote:
not a lot of people here seem to know what this disorder is... its not acting in an obessive manner. Its having intense anxiety unless you perform some predetermined task again and again, with the irrational [and heres the kicker, you know its irrational] fear that not doing so will bring harm to yourself or a loved one. Its not, oh man i gotta peel this banana right. Its I HAVE to peel this banana 450 times or im going to die!

anyways, no way to recover, at best you can lesson its growth and stall having more elaborate rituals, though its possibly it manifest into another OCD varient. Cant recall the name at the moment but its less ritualistic behaviour and more ritualistic thought, germaphobia, etc.


Hum, I take it you targeted this towards me. Well, I'll banish your post right here: I'm not acting, fool. Just because I didn't put reasons to why I close windows or why I must peel the banana right doesn't mean there aren't any:

I close windows because I think people are going to see me naked. I peel the banana correctly because I feel like the banana is poisoned so, I can't eat it anymore(or it will kill me, duh). I sleep with the lion facing down because I always think I'm going to have nightmares if I don't. I also(forgot to mention) close doors before I go to sleep... all the doors, because I think that if I don't, someone will open them at night. I USE to have an irrational fear of cameras watching my every move so, every time I would walk into any room I would look for something that wasn't there.

I have many, many other "rituals" but those are probably the most notable ones. Also, note, I put "not so horrible OCD" in my post, thank you.
If I take you for granted, if I fuck up the planet, ain't nothing to it, gangsta rap made me do it.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
November 24 2009 22:49 GMT
#18
Each time I smoke weed, I have MM. Not marine & medics, but mad munchies. I would eat and drink everything and fall asleep. I would wake up and all of it would feel like a dream. I know its real because of the countless McDonalds wrappers and cups that lay around in my room. One time I smoked and had nothing to eat or drink. I was extremely thirsty and that is when I found a McDonalds cup near my bed. I did not know how many days has it been there but in my desperate state I just needed a sip. It was such a sour/bitter taste that I had to run bathroom gagging. This happens all the time after I smoke. I think its a bad case of OCD and there's nothing I can do to change it. I stock bottled water from costco so at least I would always be fully hydrated. No matter how much I had to eat before I smoke, I would eat even more after. I have the mad munchies and I can't tell myself to stop.
Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
November 24 2009 23:22 GMT
#19
Uhhh I'm pretty crazy about washing hands. I've also lately began washing my face frequently too.
Running is the essence of battle
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 24 2009 23:38 GMT
#20
I check my oven and stuff like that but not much compared to some people :D
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
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