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UFO
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What were your symptoms ? How lond did it last ? What do u think about the behavioral-exposing therapy that is the most common therapy for this ? I have some doubts about that and I d like to know as much about those who recovered as possible. Anyone who`s ever got it or had a friend with it, plz share info ( only if you are 100 % sure its true , else plz don`t or at least say u r not sure or don`t know , misinformation is the last thing I d want about that ) Thanks for any responses | ||
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
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Mori600
Japan311 Posts
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FonzeXD
United States220 Posts
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OMin
United States545 Posts
this is sort of a mix between anxiety disorder and OCD, but in 8th grade, i was a germophobe. Like literally, id wash my hands 50+ times a day with soap, clean everything with house cleaner, keep my hands away from my face, especially from my mouth or nose in fear of accidentally getting spit or snot on my finger (no matter how little!)... I even had days where id change my pants like 5 times cuz im afraid each one got "dirty". and id go to the point where if i put something dirty in the laundry, id hate it when my mom washed it cuz she doesnt always wash her hands after doing the laundry, which means she has possible contamination from her dirty clothes on her hands, and whatever she touches from that point on will also be contaminated (ie she touches a chair, my dad sits on it, and then he sits on the couch, now the couch is contaminated, my brother sits on the couch, then on his bed.... YOU GET TEH FUCKING IDEA). I got into this shit cuz other people would always trip out about being clean (girls, not even ones that I liked), and so in consideration of them, i started this habit... which went WAY further than it was supposed to. Id have days where my hands were so dry from the continuous washing that small spots on my knuckle where the skin stretched from opening/closing would sometimes bleed a bit. And not to mention, I had to try and hide these tendencies from people for fear of embarassment... and my family wasn;t much help. dont get me wrong, i totally love my family, but they didnt understand what iw as going through. my dad would just say "dude its not normal to be that clean, just use ur reason and stop"... and i would think "WELL I WISH IT WAS THAT FUCKING EASY", and hed always give me a hard time and get mad/reproachful when he "caught" me being overly clean. I'd have to make excuses/cover ups as to why i was showering again, or why my sheets were in the laundry again... it was SOOO stressful, and I would constantly be asking myself if this was ever going to end. i was so scared that by me touching dirty (say i accidentally touched a piece of gum under the table) and thus inadverdently "infecting" whatever i touched after, I would be "infecting" others because they would touch whatever I accidentally touched with my fingers that made contact with the gum... I had times when id memorize which teachers had hand sanitizer in the classroom and try to de-contaminate these things i touched after touching something "dirty"using that hand sanitizer... again i had to try and do this away from the eyes of others.... it was soooo stressful id always try to make myself not care (which is the goal of behavioral exposing therapy), and id look on google for cures. I never saw any professional for this, i just dealt with it on my own. I KNEW that behav-exposing would NOT work for me... in fact, it would just make me freak out more and force me to clean myself after exposure.... funny though... i had no qualms about eating with someone else's fork or something like that, because that wouldnt lead to "contamination" of objects that i touched. but anyways... i prayed, i hoped, i despaired, and it seemed not to be getting better.. at some points it was getting worse, as id suddenly hit realizations like "OH SHIT i remember i accidentally got pee on the floor in 5th grade, and i only cleaned it with tissues and water, its probably contaminated and spread by unsuspecting feet ALL OVER THE HOUSE" and id just freak out some more like that. but i have a bit of bad news for you in terms of my resolution...im still puzzled as to why i got better.... but i went to Korea in 8th grade to visit my relatives during winter break. I still had it bad during the first week or so there... but bit by bit i was able to let it go... i still was more clean-freak that should be healthy, but it was surely going down! I'm not sure what to attribute this to.... it sounds a bit corny to say it was the "magic healing power of family presence", but its a possibility. Maybe it was just the change of scene/setting from what im routinely used to that let me start relinquishing my destructive/stressful habit. I think perhaps it is the latter, which happened on a subconscious scale, because I was not aware of the change... i just all of a sudden stopped caring a bit, and started letting go of my habit.... i was soooo happy that I was free from the prison of this harrowing ritual... i was free again! right now, im pretty normal... i probably wash my hands more than the average guy, but its nothing crazy like it used to be... i would trip if there was no soap to wash my hands with after peeing in 8th grade, but now im fine with not washing my hands (though I would prefer to use soap if it was there  !).Are we allowed to know what exactly ur OCD situation is? I hope this helped you in some way, even if my resolution was.... unexplainable  edit - oh sorry, i forgot to say how long it lasted... id say for me around (or a little less than) 6 months. | ||
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UFO
582 Posts
My cousin seems to have it. She is constantly worried about diseases which is impossible for her to get, checks her temperature every 10 minutes, and washes her hands all the time. She is still like that as of this moment. I am guessing that she got it from her mother and possibly middle school. How is her social life , friends ? Is she alone for most day( being at house in her room is fits being alone ) How is she doing atschool ? Her day-to-day activity, how much is it disturbed , ie does she skip school or not, her grades, entertainment etc ? How is her mother ? What was she doing to her ? Did her mother try to control her too much ? Was there other control force that was very strict , or something that was harming her freedom ? You say middle school is the reason too, why ? Is she doing this in public, or only at home ? What are her interests and what was she interested in the past , im curious especially if she was interested in any psychological/religious/phylosophical/ocult/esoteric/moral stuff ? How is it related to her belief system ? I mean especially what she thinks about topics : 1.what one is supposed to do, what one has to do, what are her duties, how she should be - is she strict about that or not ? 2.God/Religion/Anything that might be its substitute as of her belief ie Nature, Spirit ? 3. What does she think about her symptoms ( washin hands etc) ? ( obviously its hard to know what one actually believes, ppl lie and hide ) Sorry if it by any means sounds rude , you don`t have to reply , I d just be grateful if u did. | ||
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UFO
582 Posts
On November 25 2009 06:30 OMin wrote: me. this is sort of a mix between anxiety disorder and OCD, but in 8th grade, i was a germophobe. Like literally, id wash my hands 50+ times a day with soap, clean everything with house cleaner, keep my hands away from my face, especially from my mouth or nose in fear of accidentally getting spit or snot on my finger (no matter how little!)... I even had days where id change my pants like 5 times cuz im afraid each one got "dirty". and id go to the point where if i put something dirty in the laundry, id hate it when my mom washed it cuz she doesnt always wash her hands after doing the laundry, which means she has possible contamination from her dirty clothes on her hands, and whatever she touches from that point on will also be contaminated (ie she touches a chair, my dad sits on it, and then he sits on the couch, now the couch is contaminated, my brother sits on the couch, then on his bed.... YOU GET TEH FUCKING IDEA). I got into this shit cuz other people would always trip out about being clean (girls, not even ones that I liked), and so in consideration of them, i started this habit... which went WAY further than it was supposed to. Id have days where my hands were so dry from the continuous washing that small spots on my knuckle where the skin stretched from opening/closing would sometimes bleed a bit. And not to mention, I had to try and hide these tendencies from people for fear of embarassment... and my family wasn;t much help. dont get me wrong, i totally love my family, but they didnt understand what iw as going through. my dad would just say "dude its not normal to be that clean, just use ur reason and stop"... and i would think "WELL I WISH IT WAS THAT FUCKING EASY", and hed always give me a hard time and get mad/reproachful when he "caught" me being overly clean. I'd have to make excuses/cover ups as to why i was showering again, or why my sheets were in the laundry again... it was SOOO stressful, and I would constantly be asking myself if this was ever going to end. i was so scared that by me touching dirty (say i accidentally touched a piece of gum under the table) and thus inadverdently "infecting" whatever i touched after, I would be "infecting" others because they would touch whatever I accidentally touched with my fingers that made contact with the gum... I had times when id memorize which teachers had hand sanitizer in the classroom and try to de-contaminate these things i touched after touching something "dirty"using that hand sanitizer... again i had to try and do this away from the eyes of others.... it was soooo stressful id always try to make myself not care (which is the goal of behavioral exposing therapy), and id look on google for cures. I never saw any professional for this, i just dealt with it on my own. I KNEW that behav-exposing would NOT work for me... in fact, it would just make me freak out more and force me to clean myself after exposure.... funny though... i had no qualms about eating with someone else's fork or something like that, because that wouldnt lead to "contamination" of objects that i touched. but anyways... i prayed, i hoped, i despaired, and it seemed not to be getting better.. at some points it was getting worse, as id suddenly hit realizations like "OH SHIT i remember i accidentally got pee on the floor in 5th grade, and i only cleaned it with tissues and water, its probably contaminated and spread by unsuspecting feet ALL OVER THE HOUSE" and id just freak out some more like that. but i have a bit of bad news for you in terms of my resolution...im still puzzled as to why i got better.... but i went to Korea in 8th grade to visit my relatives during winter break. I still had it bad during the first week or so there... but bit by bit i was able to let it go... i still was more clean-freak that should be healthy, but it was surely going down! I'm not sure what to attribute this to.... it sounds a bit corny to say it was the "magic healing power of family presence", but its a possibility. Maybe it was just the change of scene/setting from what im routinely used to that let me start relinquishing my destructive/stressful habit. I think perhaps it is the latter, which happened on a subconscious scale, because I was not aware of the change... i just all of a sudden stopped caring a bit, and started letting go of my habit.... i was soooo happy that I was free from the prison of this harrowing ritual... i was free again! right now, im pretty normal... i probably wash my hands more than the average guy, but its nothing crazy like it used to be... i would trip if there was no soap to wash my hands with after peeing in 8th grade, but now im fine with not washing my hands (though I would prefer to use soap if it was there !).Are we allowed to know what exactly ur OCD situation is? I hope this helped you in some way, even if my resolution was.... unexplainable edit - oh sorry, i forgot to say how long it lasted... id say for me around (or a little less than) 6 months. thx very much , I really appreciate that. I ll write about my ocd tomorrow as I completely don`t have time now . Good to hear that u recovered from this ^^ | ||
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yhnmk
Canada630 Posts
anyways, no way to recover, at best you can lesson its growth and stall having more elaborate rituals, though its possibly it manifest into another OCD varient. Cant recall the name at the moment but its less ritualistic behaviour and more ritualistic thought, germaphobia, etc. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On November 25 2009 05:24 ghostWriter wrote: Well, I wash my hands really often, but I figure it's a good thing and haven't done anything about it. same for me, sometimes i put my hands in my mouth without noticing it so this make me worried that some day im going to put some virus in my mouth so i wash them a lot. also stepping into certain places make me return to do a "proper" step, hard to explain but doesn't bother me really,this doesn't happen too much so don't care about going to doctors or proper treatment | ||
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Pseudo_Utopia
Canada827 Posts
Pretty strange, but then again not that big a deal. Usually. The worst thing this made him do is the following: our college was between 2 subway stations. We usually took the south one, but once, he took the north one and went all the way home, and then had to come all the way back to school and take the south one. That's when it hit me that something was seriously off with this guy. Turns out he was also taking some anger-suppressing medications from his difficult childhood in Palestine and Jordan (seeing really violent and crude things at a very young age), so that might have contributed. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On November 25 2009 06:56 yhnmk wrote: not a lot of people here seem to know what this disorder is... its not acting in an obessive manner. Its having intense anxiety unless you perform some predetermined task again and again, with the irrational [and heres the kicker, you know its irrational] fear that not doing so will bring harm to yourself or a loved one. Its not, oh man i gotta peel this banana right. Its I HAVE to peel this banana 450 times or im going to die! anyways, no way to recover, at best you can lesson its growth and stall having more elaborate rituals, though its possibly it manifest into another OCD varient. Cant recall the name at the moment but its less ritualistic behaviour and more ritualistic thought, germaphobia, etc. there is a treatment, rofl no way to recover it. im sure some physchiologist use the exposure technique, where you stop doing those behaviors and see that you;re not going to die or anything, then grade how anxious you feel and with time it will go down. its a process. | ||
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Ryan307 :)
United States1289 Posts
I have paranoia about me killing people/harming people, even though I know I'de never hurt a fly. For example when I used to drive, I would constantly be worried I was going to intentionnaly swirve into traffic. When I am alone and have sharp objects around me I worry I'm gonna hurt myself or other people, but I know I never would... My girlfriend washes her hands ~40 times a day and her hands are worn down from washing them so much. She avoids certain numbers and has some pretty intense compulsions. There are ways of recovering from OCD, I'm a part of a 12 step program that helps SO MUCH. 12 Step programs don't have to be all about God and all that (despite the wording of the steps). My girlfriend and I are very active in OCD recovery and all that, joining a 12 step program was the best thing I've ever done in my life | ||
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Hungary3932 Posts
I know this may not sound that serious since I never actually saw a professional with even the diagnosis of my hypochondria/OCD, and also my therapy was self-induced, but I thought I'd share anyway. | ||
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[ZiNC]Ling
United States69 Posts
On November 25 2009 06:56 yhnmk wrote: not a lot of people here seem to know what this disorder is... its not acting in an obessive manner. Its having intense anxiety unless you perform some predetermined task again and again, with the irrational [and heres the kicker, you know its irrational] fear that not doing so will bring harm to yourself or a loved one. Its not, oh man i gotta peel this banana right. Its I HAVE to peel this banana 450 times or im going to die! anyways, no way to recover, at best you can lesson its growth and stall having more elaborate rituals, though its possibly it manifest into another OCD varient. Cant recall the name at the moment but its less ritualistic behaviour and more ritualistic thought, germaphobia, etc. I'm afraid you're one of the people who doesn't quite know what this disorder is. OCD can present with obsessions, compulsions, or both. A subset of those with OCD have the problem you described, the need to perform a task repeatedly. Also, there are many ways to recover from this disorder. Medication and therapy can be very effective, and sometimes the disorder simply lessens on its own. EDIT: On November 25 2009 06:30 OMin wrote: me. + Show Spoiler + this is sort of a mix between anxiety disorder and OCD, but in 8th grade, i was a germophobe. Like literally, id wash my hands 50+ times a day with soap, clean everything with house cleaner, keep my hands away from my face, especially from my mouth or nose in fear of accidentally getting spit or snot on my finger (no matter how little!)... I even had days where id change my pants like 5 times cuz im afraid each one got "dirty". and id go to the point where if i put something dirty in the laundry, id hate it when my mom washed it cuz she doesnt always wash her hands after doing the laundry, which means she has possible contamination from her dirty clothes on her hands, and whatever she touches from that point on will also be contaminated (ie she touches a chair, my dad sits on it, and then he sits on the couch, now the couch is contaminated, my brother sits on the couch, then on his bed.... YOU GET TEH FUCKING IDEA). I got into this shit cuz other people would always trip out about being clean (girls, not even ones that I liked), and so in consideration of them, i started this habit... which went WAY further than it was supposed to. Id have days where my hands were so dry from the continuous washing that small spots on my knuckle where the skin stretched from opening/closing would sometimes bleed a bit. And not to mention, I had to try and hide these tendencies from people for fear of embarassment... and my family wasn;t much help. dont get me wrong, i totally love my family, but they didnt understand what iw as going through. my dad would just say "dude its not normal to be that clean, just use ur reason and stop"... and i would think "WELL I WISH IT WAS THAT FUCKING EASY", and hed always give me a hard time and get mad/reproachful when he "caught" me being overly clean. I'd have to make excuses/cover ups as to why i was showering again, or why my sheets were in the laundry again... it was SOOO stressful, and I would constantly be asking myself if this was ever going to end. i was so scared that by me touching dirty (say i accidentally touched a piece of gum under the table) and thus inadverdently "infecting" whatever i touched after, I would be "infecting" others because they would touch whatever I accidentally touched with my fingers that made contact with the gum... I had times when id memorize which teachers had hand sanitizer in the classroom and try to de-contaminate these things i touched after touching something "dirty"using that hand sanitizer... again i had to try and do this away from the eyes of others.... it was soooo stressful id always try to make myself not care (which is the goal of behavioral exposing therapy), and id look on google for cures. I never saw any professional for this, i just dealt with it on my own. I KNEW that behav-exposing would NOT work for me... in fact, it would just make me freak out more and force me to clean myself after exposure.... funny though... i had no qualms about eating with someone else's fork or something like that, because that wouldnt lead to "contamination" of objects that i touched. but anyways... i prayed, i hoped, i despaired, and it seemed not to be getting better.. at some points it was getting worse, as id suddenly hit realizations like "OH SHIT i remember i accidentally got pee on the floor in 5th grade, and i only cleaned it with tissues and water, its probably contaminated and spread by unsuspecting feet ALL OVER THE HOUSE" and id just freak out some more like that. but i have a bit of bad news for you in terms of my resolution...im still puzzled as to why i got better.... but i went to Korea in 8th grade to visit my relatives during winter break. I still had it bad during the first week or so there... but bit by bit i was able to let it go... i still was more clean-freak that should be healthy, but it was surely going down! I'm not sure what to attribute this to.... it sounds a bit corny to say it was the "magic healing power of family presence", but its a possibility. Maybe it was just the change of scene/setting from what im routinely used to that let me start relinquishing my destructive/stressful habit. I think perhaps it is the latter, which happened on a subconscious scale, because I was not aware of the change... i just all of a sudden stopped caring a bit, and started letting go of my habit.... i was soooo happy that I was free from the prison of this harrowing ritual... i was free again! right now, im pretty normal... i probably wash my hands more than the average guy, but its nothing crazy like it used to be... i would trip if there was no soap to wash my hands with after peeing in 8th grade, but now im fine with not washing my hands (though I would prefer to use soap if it was there !).Are we allowed to know what exactly ur OCD situation is? I hope this helped you in some way, even if my resolution was.... unexplainable edit - oh sorry, i forgot to say how long it lasted... id say for me around (or a little less than) 6 months. I'm so sorry T_T I'm glad you've recovered, and thanks for sharing this. It's a perfect description of what OCD is like. | ||
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myfriendPlank
United States550 Posts
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FonzeXD
United States220 Posts
On November 25 2009 06:56 yhnmk wrote: not a lot of people here seem to know what this disorder is... its not acting in an obessive manner. Its having intense anxiety unless you perform some predetermined task again and again, with the irrational [and heres the kicker, you know its irrational] fear that not doing so will bring harm to yourself or a loved one. Its not, oh man i gotta peel this banana right. Its I HAVE to peel this banana 450 times or im going to die! anyways, no way to recover, at best you can lesson its growth and stall having more elaborate rituals, though its possibly it manifest into another OCD varient. Cant recall the name at the moment but its less ritualistic behaviour and more ritualistic thought, germaphobia, etc. Hum, I take it you targeted this towards me. Well, I'll banish your post right here: I'm not acting, fool. Just because I didn't put reasons to why I close windows or why I must peel the banana right doesn't mean there aren't any: I close windows because I think people are going to see me naked. I peel the banana correctly because I feel like the banana is poisoned so, I can't eat it anymore(or it will kill me, duh). I sleep with the lion facing down because I always think I'm going to have nightmares if I don't. I also(forgot to mention) close doors before I go to sleep... all the doors, because I think that if I don't, someone will open them at night. I USE to have an irrational fear of cameras watching my every move so, every time I would walk into any room I would look for something that wasn't there. I have many, many other "rituals" but those are probably the most notable ones. Also, note, I put "not so horrible OCD" in my post, thank you. | ||
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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Smokin_Squirrel
Korea (South)674 Posts
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Foucault
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agen
Barbados111 Posts
On November 25 2009 07:23 [ZiNC]Ling wrote: I'm afraid you're one of the people who doesn't quite know what this disorder is. OCD can present with obsessions, compulsions, or both. A subset of those with OCD have the problem you described, the need to perform a task repeatedly. Also, there are many ways to recover from this disorder. Medication and therapy can be very effective, and sometimes the disorder simply lessens on its own. EDIT: I'm so sorry T_T I'm glad you've recovered, and thanks for sharing this. It's a perfect description of what OCD is like. Read the wikipedia article if you like. A subset of people with OCD have what is known as OCD without overt compulsions. What he's just described about himself sounds exactly like OCD. For the OP: Behavior exposing therapy may or may not be used to treat OCD. It depends on the situation. If you're afraid of dogs (nothing to do with OCD here), then it would work like this. You are forced to spend time with a dog in a closed off room. You become incredibly afraid. At some rapidly reached point, you hit a maximum level of fear, past which it just isn't physiologically possible to be more afraid. Gradually after a period of time, you become less afraid - I'll leave it to you to determine why this happens, there are several good explanations. The questions you directed to another poster sound very considered, but generally studies show that conventional therapy has no effect when used to treat OCD. Therefore, regardless of whether or not your relationship with your parents may have caused you some difficulties, and everything else you mentioned, chances are, if you're having difficulties, you won't be able to solve them by figuring out the source. It might be important at some point to figure out which parts of your life you can change to reduce personal stressors, but if you find you constantly wash your hands or some such, there are direct methods which have been shown to help out. As to the no-way to recover comment, and the comment about having succesfully recovered from OCD, there is no medicinal cure for OCD, and it's a disorder, so it's not like a bacterial infection which you contract and then fight off and never catch again. If you have some OCD symptoms, and you do absolutely nothing (I can't think of a good reason for doing this) your symptoms won't remain consistent: at some point they'll go away but will potentially return later on. The point of therapies which target OCD is to learn how to deal with the disorder, and prevent a relapse of symptoms. Also, you can take SSRIs (though at significantly larger doses than are used to treat anxiety or depression) in order to treat OCD. SSRIs and CBT are the only treatments for OCD that have been empirically shown to be effective that I know of. I don't doubt there are other things you can do to help, however. | ||
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ragnasaur
United States804 Posts
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Kurosaki
United States158 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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keepITup
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I still have bits of OCD left in me, but I recognize it and I can laugh at it. I honestly give in just for fun some times. | ||
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[ZiNC]Ling
United States69 Posts
On November 25 2009 08:41 agen wrote: Read the wikipedia article if you like. A subset of people with OCD have what is known as OCD without overt compulsions. What he's just described about himself sounds exactly like OCD. Thanks...?? I don't understand how this is any different from what I said. As to the no-way to recover comment, and the comment about having succesfully recovered from OCD, there is no medicinal cure for OCD, and it's a disorder, so it's not like a bacterial infection which you contract and then fight off and never catch again. If you have some OCD symptoms, and you do absolutely nothing (I can't think of a good reason for doing this) your symptoms won't remain consistent: at some point they'll go away but will potentially return later on. The point of therapies which target OCD is to learn how to deal with the disorder, and prevent a relapse of symptoms. Also, you can take SSRIs (though at significantly larger doses than are used to treat anxiety or depression) in order to treat OCD. SSRIs and CBT are the only treatments for OCD that have been empirically shown to be effective that I know of. I don't doubt there are other things you can do to help, however. Medication and therapy can bring the disorder under such complete control that you can live a normal life, and rarely if ever have obsessive thoughts or rituals bother you. So I wouldn't say there is "no cure". And, in some cases, it does in fact just disappear. It's not unheard of for children to simply "grow out of" the disorder due to hormonal changes. And, check this link for some info on infection linked OCD. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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On November 25 2009 06:30 OMin wrote: me. + Show Spoiler + this is sort of a mix between anxiety disorder and OCD, but in 8th grade, i was a germophobe. Like literally, id wash my hands 50+ times a day with soap, clean everything with house cleaner, keep my hands away from my face, especially from my mouth or nose in fear of accidentally getting spit or snot on my finger (no matter how little!)... I even had days where id change my pants like 5 times cuz im afraid each one got "dirty". and id go to the point where if i put something dirty in the laundry, id hate it when my mom washed it cuz she doesnt always wash her hands after doing the laundry, which means she has possible contamination from her dirty clothes on her hands, and whatever she touches from that point on will also be contaminated (ie she touches a chair, my dad sits on it, and then he sits on the couch, now the couch is contaminated, my brother sits on the couch, then on his bed.... YOU GET TEH FUCKING IDEA). I got into this shit cuz other people would always trip out about being clean (girls, not even ones that I liked), and so in consideration of them, i started this habit... which went WAY further than it was supposed to. Id have days where my hands were so dry from the continuous washing that small spots on my knuckle where the skin stretched from opening/closing would sometimes bleed a bit. And not to mention, I had to try and hide these tendencies from people for fear of embarassment... and my family wasn;t much help. dont get me wrong, i totally love my family, but they didnt understand what iw as going through. my dad would just say "dude its not normal to be that clean, just use ur reason and stop"... and i would think "WELL I WISH IT WAS THAT FUCKING EASY", and hed always give me a hard time and get mad/reproachful when he "caught" me being overly clean. I'd have to make excuses/cover ups as to why i was showering again, or why my sheets were in the laundry again... it was SOOO stressful, and I would constantly be asking myself if this was ever going to end. i was so scared that by me touching dirty (say i accidentally touched a piece of gum under the table) and thus inadverdently "infecting" whatever i touched after, I would be "infecting" others because they would touch whatever I accidentally touched with my fingers that made contact with the gum... I had times when id memorize which teachers had hand sanitizer in the classroom and try to de-contaminate these things i touched after touching something "dirty"using that hand sanitizer... again i had to try and do this away from the eyes of others.... it was soooo stressful id always try to make myself not care (which is the goal of behavioral exposing therapy), and id look on google for cures. I never saw any professional for this, i just dealt with it on my own. I KNEW that behav-exposing would NOT work for me... in fact, it would just make me freak out more and force me to clean myself after exposure.... funny though... i had no qualms about eating with someone else's fork or something like that, because that wouldnt lead to "contamination" of objects that i touched. but anyways... i prayed, i hoped, i despaired, and it seemed not to be getting better.. at some points it was getting worse, as id suddenly hit realizations like "OH SHIT i remember i accidentally got pee on the floor in 5th grade, and i only cleaned it with tissues and water, its probably contaminated and spread by unsuspecting feet ALL OVER THE HOUSE" and id just freak out some more like that. but i have a bit of bad news for you in terms of my resolution...im still puzzled as to why i got better.... but i went to Korea in 8th grade to visit my relatives during winter break. I still had it bad during the first week or so there... but bit by bit i was able to let it go... i still was more clean-freak that should be healthy, but it was surely going down! I'm not sure what to attribute this to.... it sounds a bit corny to say it was the "magic healing power of family presence", but its a possibility. Maybe it was just the change of scene/setting from what im routinely used to that let me start relinquishing my destructive/stressful habit. I think perhaps it is the latter, which happened on a subconscious scale, because I was not aware of the change... i just all of a sudden stopped caring a bit, and started letting go of my habit.... i was soooo happy that I was free from the prison of this harrowing ritual... i was free again! right now, im pretty normal... i probably wash my hands more than the average guy, but its nothing crazy like it used to be... i would trip if there was no soap to wash my hands with after peeing in 8th grade, but now im fine with not washing my hands (though I would prefer to use soap if it was there !).Are we allowed to know what exactly ur OCD situation is? I hope this helped you in some way, even if my resolution was.... unexplainable edit - oh sorry, i forgot to say how long it lasted... id say for me around (or a little less than) 6 months. I had a nearly identical experience for several years. Compulsive hand-washing, and cleaning. Except, I wasn't afraid that I would contaminate other people, it was the opposite. I was afraid that everything that other people touched became contaminated, so anything that people touched that I also used had to be cleaned. I'd sometimes get very angry at people for touching things. If someone walked into my bedroom with shoes on I had to vacuum the whole floor. If someone touched the mouse/keyboard/console controller, I had to wipe it down with alcohol (which I still do, because I still think other people are disgusting and dirty). If a friend even picked up my controller I would get incredibly anxious about it. If I had nothing to clean it with I wouldn't use it until I cleaned it. The thought of it being so contaminated would make me almost want to break down and cry. If someone sat on my bed with their street clothes on, I'd change my sheets, or spray my bed with Lysol or something. I would wash my hands and dry them, but if I didn't do it in a specific manner, I would have to wash them again or I'd have this irritated feeling that wouldn't go away. When showering, if any part of my body touched the wall or the shower curtain, I'd have to rewash myself. I always washed my body in the same order (hair, face, upper body, left leg/foot with right hand, right leg/foot with left hand). If I stepped out of the shower onto the floor (and this isn't gone), I'd get that same irritated feeling on my foot (like the one on my hand). I've gotten around this by putting socks on immediately after showering. There is almost no point in the day that I don't have socks on, except when I sleep, and the rare occasion I get out of bed to get a drink from the refrigerator downstairs. If someone put on my shoes or gloves, I would not wear them anymore (in fact, no one has done that for quite a while, but I'd probably still throw them away. I flipped out on my mom for wearing some slippers I had. It still pisses me off that she wore them, because she knew goddamn well that I hated when people wore my stuff). Certain things I would have to have in an exact position, and I'd measure the distance between them. I didn't do that all that often, and there were only a couple of items. I couldn't care less about this anymore. My room is a total mess. I also compulsively bit/bite skin off of my fingers (around the nails, and on my thumbs the part where it bends). I have no idea why, and I stopped doing it for a long time, then started again. I can't describe the feeling when I don't do it, but I continue to do it because there is rough skin that drives me crazy. The thing is, I know if I left it alone again, the rough skin would just go away. It all started because I caught someone jerking off in the shower once (I actually just saw a shadow through the curtain). We only had one bathroom, so the person showering didn't get much privacy. Most of the anxiety is gone now. I can touch things without disinfecting them, but I still prefer to. When I don't, though, I don't flip out about it not being cleaned. It's significantly lessened from nearly breaking down, to just liking things to be disinfected. I stopped caring about my bed when I started dating my ex-gf. Although I always preferred her to have no clothes on in my bed (for obvious reasons), it didn't bother me that she had her clothes on (but, at the same time, no one else has really been in my bed but her, so I don't know how I would react to them, because she was a "clean" person in my head). She also had a baby, and babies are very messy. I wouldn't have been able to date her for as long as I did if I hadn't gotten over a lot of the things that bothered me. I also started smoking and drinking, which significantly lessened how much I care about anything in life. So, I guess that probably had the largest influence on everything. All in all, most of the things I've listed, while I still maintain some of the habits I had, I don't care about them anywhere near as much as I used to, so I figure the OCD is pretty much gone. I didn't have therapy or anything, I just stopped caring. On November 25 2009 12:08 [ZiNC]Ling wrote: Thanks...?? I don't understand how this is any different from what I said. I'm pretty sure he was responding to the guy you were responding to, and quoted the wrong person. | ||
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agen
Barbados111 Posts
On November 25 2009 12:08 [ZiNC]Ling wrote: Thanks...?? I don't understand how this is any different from what I said. Medication and therapy can bring the disorder under such complete control that you can live a normal life, and rarely if ever have obsessive thoughts or rituals bother you. So I wouldn't say there is "no cure". And, in some cases, it does in fact just disappear. It's not unheard of for children to simply "grow out of" the disorder due to hormonal changes. And, check this link for some info on infection linked OCD. Oh sorry, I think that I either misread the quote you quoted, or you changed it or something; I thought you were telling another poster they didn't have OCD. Also, a lot of people seem to be saying they exhibited symptoms of OCD when they were kids, but forced themselves to stop such rituals. Lots of kids, to some degree, exhibit symptoms of OCD. People change between young ages and old ages, but generally, if you're an adult who needs to carry out some ritualistic behavior or thought process, attempting to force yourself to stop only exacerbates the problem. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20019 Posts
The DSM IV Requirements are: A. The Person Exhibits Either Obsessions or Compulsions Obsessions are indicated by the following: The person has recurrent and persistent thoughts, impulses, or images that are experienced, at some time during the disturbance, as intrusive and inappropriate and that cause marked anxiety or distress The thoughts, impulses, or images are not simply excessive worries about real-life problems The person attempts to ignore or suppress such thoughts, impulses, or images or to neutralize them with some other thought or action The person recognizes that the obsessional thoughts, impulses, or images are a product of his or her own mind (not imposed from without as in thought insertion) Compulsions are indicated by the following: The person has repetitive behaviors (eg, hand washing, ordering, checking) or mental acts (eg, praying, counting, repeating words silently) that the person feels driven to perform in response to an obsession or according to rules that must be applied rigidly The behaviors or mental acts are aimed at preventing some dreaded event or situation; however, these behaviors or mental acts either are not connected in a realistic way with what they are designed to neutralize or prevent or are clearly excessive. B. At some point during the course of the disorder, the person has recognized that the obsessions or compulsions are excessive or unreasonable. (Note: this does not apply to children.) C. The obsessions or compulsions cause marked distress, are time consuming (take more than 1 hour a day), or significantly interfere with the person's normal routine, occupational/academic functioning, or usual social activities or relationships. D. If another axis I disorder is present, the content of the obsessions or compulsions is not restricted to it (e.g., preoccupation with drugs in the presence of a substance abuse disorder). E. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiologic effects of a substance (e.g., drug abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition. TL:DR = an obsession or compulsion that you recognize as unreasonable and causes you at least an hour a day/interferes with your daily routine. | ||
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
like have to have to i have to win at least once or holy shit i freak | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On November 25 2009 11:15 Kurosaki wrote: I really wanna know why you're so curious about this that you posted it on GG.net and here. All questions but no opinions. Its like you're trying to find answers for something.... GAH! HE'S ON TO YOU! | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
i sleep with them; wash them after every use, i get PISSED if someone scuffs them. but once something out my of control happens like i step in mud and it just wont come out. i stop giving a shit. | ||
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
U might wanna check other forums if he posts this thread starter everyday at 12.34 or something? + Show Spoiler + jk dont ban me pls =( | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
All these "what if" thoughts are typical of OCD. What if I unintentionally drove into one of the meeting cars, what if I grab a knife and kill 10 people. Funny thing is that people with these thoughts are often times the most conscentious and nice people and torment themselves with all this "what if" worry. The thoughts change but the feeling is the same. I have tourettes syndrome as well which goes pretty much hand in hand with OCD, although my OCD is veeery mild (checking oven), and tourettes is pretty mild too. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
i can relate to most of the posts. i also wash my hands often, but not every 15 minutes. i wash my hands whenever i feel my hands are dirty and afraid to get contaminated. i think my laziness overcomes my ocd symptoms because the washroom is often far from where i am staying (laziness >>> ocd lol). i also have visions of death, or these "what ifs" like what foucault has said, and sometimes these visions distract my everyday life - e.g. having a hard time to focus on work, avoiding sleep because i'm afraid of my dreams that could be associated to these visions. to overcome these, i force myself to think of happy thoughts and again laziness helps since i need to get enough sleep. and again, always think of happy thoughts before sleeping. i haven't talked to any professionals about these cause i'm afraid that my ocd would not be treated but would get worse. anyways, i think my ocd is still manageable. if you don't want to seek professional help or if you think you can still handle yourself, then in my opinion, all you need is courage to take full control of your obsessions and compulsions. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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Loldts
United States66 Posts
When I hang my laundry up on the hangers, I always hang my shirts in order of the day I am going to wear them, and if a few days later I decide to wear a different shirt, I rearrange them for the next few days to fix it. All my remotes for my various electronics are at a 90 degree angle from the edge of my coffee table, followed by a coaster. And the last one i've noticed, all the light switches in the house have to be in the "up" position when the light is on and "down" when they are off. If they aren't, I will go through and flip them all to fix them. There are two light switches in my house that have to go against the trend in order for everything else to line up, so I just make sure that the two that are backwards are the hidden light switches that I don't ever have to look at. Not bad compared to most of the posters here, just my lil corner of the world! | ||
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Frits
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On November 25 2009 21:32 mahnini wrote: im pretty sure you cant be only a little OCD. youre either really OCD or just being a little whiner. Not really, especially considering how arbitrary the DSM requirements are. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On November 26 2009 00:05 Frits wrote: Not really, especially considering how arbitrary the DSM requirements are. This. And mahnini is a dumbass for saying that. Trying to make a bad ass comment in a thread where people are having more or less issues with OCD, yeah you're really hilarious. | ||
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
Then I might go upstairs and be like "are u sure its locked?" and go all the way back down to check again. It was annoying as hell, but one day it just stopped and I never check anymore. | ||
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FonzeXD
United States220 Posts
I have obsessive thoughts about my gfs/ex's past. I relive every scene in my head, every time I wake up, when I'm sitting in class, maybe even ALL day I can stay thinking about it. It's like a really crappy CD on repeat in my mind. I seem to not be able to NOT think about it. It becomes worse when my gf(well, ex) is actually in front of me: I might even think that I have psychosis because I even have hallucinations of her actually with the people from her past(and that's just absurd). Just thinking about my gfs past for 7 months straight made me think I had depression, psychosis, schizophrenia, OCD, a crapload of personality disorders..one time I thought I had cancer in my brain. At first(3 months in), I didn't really think of it as OCD or anything... just me not wanting to accept her past aka stubborn. Then, it started to become really depressing once it hit an entire year of just thinking about her past. I did the most idiotic things and I'm still stuck here... I seem to have never returned. It was triggered by gossip. I was so shocked and appalled that I had delusions that I might have STDs(and I hadn't even had sex with her when I had found out about her lengthy past). So much CRAP! Point is, I've had these obsessive thoughts for a year and a half now and I would remedy it with crazy amounts of weed(20-40 joints in a day, everyday) and different kinds of drugs(every drug, perhaps. I've tried them all...). I just seem to not be able to return from this..'place.' edit: Forgot to mention, the stress levels throughout all of this were so high at one point, I would get these crazy chills and night sweats randomly at night. My stress levels were so high I could taste it.. just so I could analyze and think about my gfs past. I don't get it. | ||
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UFO
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----------------------------------------- Original Message: That is pretty much all I know at the moment. I hope this information is helpful to you and sorry if I went off topic quite a bit. Thank you so much. You can ignore the following, please do as u wish. So to list the possible facts u mentioned : 1. She is quite lonely 2. She has family relationship problems 3. She was exposed to a lot of information 4. She seems to have religious dilemmas 5. Political debates Claims : - if u had #5 with her then I d guess she is able to speak about high level abstract concepts and present them with a fluent and adequate wording - tho propably not consistent , sometimes she might be lost etc. It might be not too useful for making friends tho, especially that she is 13, mb thats why "airheads" I read somewhere in a specialistic book that : ( I ll preadd that it says that there aren`t clear specifications as to what is the source of OCD, which is pretty bad news to OCD`ers tbh ) 1. Tends to increase the potency to fall into OCD 2. Look #1 3. #1 4. No data but it would be very logical that having them tends to increase OCD propability 5. Knowing if the intelligence is a helpful factor in recovering from OCD or not could be useful. Possibly yes but its not obvious. A lot of information at an early age - no data as well. Now my personal research and claims : Depends what info and how is it understood BUT the latter is something that is VERY important imo. OCDers have some disfunction with how they receive various information and here`s source or one of sources of OCD . This disfunction, however , is very hard to define or explain at least - a) they do illogical things but if u had acces to their thought process those things are LOGICAL b) they are logical but are based on WRONG ASSUMPTIONS, wrong , false , incorrect beliefs .... but is it a rule ? Being afraid of a spider(poisonless) - one would say that spider can`t harm you physically - but who knows of WHAT are arachnofobiacs actually afraid about that spider ? I was arachnofobiac myself as well and I HAVE NO IDEA. The fear or something else or mix of these causes your inview to be at a low degree. I don`t know if there is answer to what that fear is. This is a valuable answer because it would tell - what exactly was the WRONG ASSUMPTION/BELIEF. IF WE KNEW HOW TO EFFICIENTLY DISABLE WRONG ASSUMPTIONS , NEUTRALIZE THEIR S O U R C E - this , I believe, would be the cure for OCD. Theoretic(unfortunetaly....) example: One believs that (poisonless)spider can kill him ( mb he had traumatic experience in childhood - usually forgotten/hidden ). One does NOT know about this belief. One tries to find what that belief is. (**** he might even say it exactly right , outloud and cuz of his subconcious[ or some other psyche/human instrument/ conciousness element-psychlogy is incomplete] .... he can percieve this as unimportant, 'ain`t it' . How to get that belief ? Hypnosis etc , some way to make your psyche , lets say subconcious reveal the belief .... but why does it HIDE it ? Assumption is that some psyche element IS CONCIOUSLY HIDING THIS BELIEF , INFORMATION. FOR WHAT REASON ? Its intentions should be good, its your psyche so ? Only explantation is that it considers itself higher authority than YOU - THE CONCIOUSNESS conciousness( who/what are we exactly - is rather out of the scope of this post ) . Wait. Thats a ridicilous claim and a rather impossible one - so many ppl have arachnofobia and all of them , considering how individuals psyche differs from one another , have this psyche element(mb subconcioussness) doing this same thing ? That would exlude the 'good will' of this responsible psyche element or mean that its something else. I read on the Wingmakers.com(linking it to her might be a bad idea) website about the POLAR SYSTEM : which is the following http://projectcamelot.org/james_wingmakers_sovereign_integral.html ( YOU MIGHT CONSIDER IT A TOTAL B U L L S H I T and I don`t mind , I myself have a scientific-like approach to this and I have various strange experiences that seem to prove some very abstract concepts that are too wide and unexplored to be of any use to define truthfullness of this article, and one of them being the When-Which-How from Eventtemples.org) "Polarity System (PS) – This is a sub-node of DSIND designed to create polarities in the HMS and thus create friction between the polarities, and from this friction manifest discord and disharmony. If you exist in HMS (and you do), then you exist in polarity. It is truly that simple. Polarity is what activates and feeds the HMS. It is the “food” of HMS because in polarity the human instrument is lost in separation, which is precisely the point of HMS as intended by its designers." ------------------------------------------------ I proved myself that by the thoughts-behaviors-beliefs-emotion u can actually separate/unify and modify your psyche ( which is commonly known fact or not ? Idk tbh ) This means that u can actually create a personality or a subset of it in your inner world , where your imagination exists. All the talking to oneself , mental dialogues, images etc it affects your psyche in some way , more or less or it doesn`t in any significant way. This is a very subtle concept that is sometimes realized in conditions of loneliness(not always but it usually makes person less interested in the material world, by the very fact that - what do u do when u wait for the bus ?)+interest in those matters or or other factors that help/mb force the individual to develop the much bigger sensitity/interest in the inner world. Why do I talk about it ? If your attention is so inner world focused + some *potential* other factors like pesimism etc - it might be one of the major causes/the source of the OCD . HOW ? EXAMPLE : One`s attention is mostly focused innerly - if he`s with his imagination/emotions/ mostly then he might LACK the BALANCE that is usually met by interacting with others and his attention might be drawn to some psyche component. THE MORE ATTENTION psyche component gets the biggest impact it has. When this component got so much attention ( i guess it has to be pretty huge ) it starts to manifest signs of a will that is different to oneself`s. Might be that these signs are its weapon to get even more attention. THESE SIGNS are becoming( cuz u freak out, and this is cuz the psyche component uses your belief system to find a weak spot to attack/use, which will make u freak out ) the OBSESSIONS that cause COMPULSIONS ( aka SYMPTOMS , washin hands etc ) . Ie the psyche component tells you that ie u ll die out of bad luck caused by not doing something , specfic example " u ll die if u don`t do this x amount of times " ( btw I`m not giving exact number cuz of ocd symptom ) ALL OCD`ers have these compulsions, be it voices , images or even beliefs etc **** Non OCD`ers have mental dialogues , all the inner life stuff too but simply the degree to which they have compulsions is MINIMAL. Thus u can say that the intensification of the inner life(what inner life - lets say , uncontrolled) is making the source of compulsions become intensified , thus here`s the source behind OCD. OCD is the intensified lvl of a factor that all ppl posses Some random thoughts : The more OCD progress is advanced the harder and longer it will take to cure it Recovering from it requires incredible CONSISTENCY. Consistency in PROVING yourself that your fear comes out of a false,incorrect,unrealistic,illogical,stupid belief. Your main motivation is set on that BELIEF , that this fear means shit and you ought to reject it. geez I don`t know how it came out to be such a fucking eifell tower post, I was going to write short "Thx very much" O_O Anyways I know it might sound like some crazy talk , especially with (PS) part included and it propably does but I`m just sharing what I know and I want to have information on what other OCD`ers think about it . Still it helps me to just collect my thoughts somewhere cuz I never did it before. In case you wonder what the hell this fucktone of post is about - these are my theories about the reasons for OCD and its source. | ||
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UFO
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Now to my OCD : * before this , I ll mark all the stuff that I write not like I planned to originally , because of OCD - with this mark % asdkfjksda % , txt after * could be in a very mild , % % as well because writing about symptoms needs to avoid some words , at least for now cuz I m not in mood to defeat this shit further now , I defeated a crapload today already First I`m not gonna write about everything because its too ridicilous to do so, because of what it is. You might have posted a banner here with link to what I ll skip if I wouldn`t skip it, so that ppl would come and see how scandalic, retarded, stupid, idiotic this stuff was; if I did but I won`t. My current OCD symptoms are related to bald or ugly ppl - I had some retarded,incorrect,wrong,stupid,false fear about that. Everytime I saw them I would do all those mental, hidden rituals which was destroying the images of those people in my imagination, I would see their picture in my mental world , the % all black dimension % and in this dimension I would see those pictures , make them black&white piece of paper or some other suited material and then scroll it so it was just a small scroll to finally put or rather push it in the destroyer which was a big destructive acid contender. The moment I destroyed one , another one appeared so I had to destroy this shit now and it would repeat with changing frequency over day . So yeah , MATH TEST - WHAT DO I DO ? DESTROY THE FUCKING IMAGE. I never actually got worse mark cuz of it tho , it was just annoying and quite hard to do simultanously these 2 things . They weren`t also all easy to destroy - they would run the fuck away , scroll back to piece of paper, turn into some fucking iron , resist or I somehow couldn`t do it fast because of laziness , tho I would always , always do it , just later. Along with destruction I would shield myself with beautiful ppl etc so yeah , there are literally oceans and universes of actors, schoolmates etc Lately tho , I somehow win vs it , I mean I totally overwhelm it and I`m able to block the image from appearing , like I can block and severely weaken the thing that causes it. I wouldn`t call whole this thing ritual tho , I find it was like defending against someone % throwing a rock at you, with a shield %. Anyways, interesting thing is - I never stopped doing this and the symptoms subsided , like I`ve won vs it . Quite the opposite of what u do when u wash hands with less counts etc. However now, there are no images of bald people to destroy even if I see someone bald , I don`t turn any attention to it, l mean I don`t notice it. This has few exceptions like a teacher at school that I rarely see and an image of one %people%, I don`t want the word contaminated , fuck , I saw about a month ago that - destroying this image was one of the biggest efforts I put because of OCD. Today I had a day where I was able to defeat the fear and change the belief in quite a lot of my OCD things. Like ' %x%times' - ' F UUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKK YYOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU, G T F O, I WILL TOUCH THE FUCKING MONEY AND FUCK YOU AND I WON`T FEEL A FUCKING BIT OF ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THIS SHIT CUZ IT IS FUCKING INCORRECT, FALSE, RETARDED , STUPID ....' and so on , i kept sayin this with all the willpower strenght u can get and I was able to not do many usual OCD stuff. I think the medicine , Asentra that I take for about a month is starting to kick in , mb its cuz of this. I don`t do this in that writing because I feel its enough for today. Second OCD symptom is avoiding my mother as much as possible. I feared that by having contact with someone u become like them - btw if u have examples of that statement being a bullshit plz send me them )I avoid simply any contact with her. This topic already knows this shit , she touched the fucking door lock or key so now its contaminated and I won`t ever fucking touch it myself unless I`m armed. I wear white gloves for about 1 year now and at home I always wear gloves , I only sleep without them on. Still I avoid touching anything even with gloves ( except pc area ) , if I need to I use toilet paper, which was cause for quite a few arguments ( % at house there is Grandfather,Mother,Grandmother % ) , cuz they would be angry as fuck seeing toilet paper spread out everywhere at house, until I started hiding it as much as possible. Obviously thx to gloves I wash hands 3-4 rounds a day instead of a lot more ( S R S L Y IF U WASH HANDS ON OCD LVL - BUY THE GLOVES A S A P , I LOVE MY WHITE GLOVES SO MUCH <33333 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) each round being a 4,5,6,14,15,22,23,24 count of a washing in a ritualistic manner. One time it was around 50 , % 49/50/51 % and I don`t know if there were higher counts , if so - just a few - so not bad fortunetely. Strange fact - the numbers - just a month or 2 ago - were quite a lot different , and back later really a lot. 6 was bad , 5 was bad , 7 was good , now its literally reverse , it turns out that in this OCD I was doing almost every count . 10 bad because it had a symbolical meaning relating to human body parts , like 1 is the body part from 1 side , 0 from other side and 0 means no , 1 yes , just to give a clue on how this shit looks like, each number has somethin like that , and also there are things like 24=2+4=6 , the fact they r changin is a proof that its a meaningless bullshit with all these counts. Because of OCD - not only of course - and I`m not blaming it , its my fault pretty much and now I have to correct it , I mean OCD itself too - so that said - 'because' of OCD - school marks got hurt and I`m in a final High School class , preparing for the exams - my laziness was a reason rather but its a lot easier to fall when u do that stupid rituals , u know , tomorrow`s a test man , I ll do this but after some round of rituals I`m just demotivated and go to lie in bed and/or sleep. Marks are either great or the worst possible, simply because I either learn to the very last thing necessary to get great grade or I decide to quit Starcraft - yeah . I planned on becoming good ( achieving B-/B ) but I was taking Zolaxa and after it ( I`m rather sure its cuz of it , when I stopped taking it around 14-15 July - it stopped as well ) I started to just sleep. I would get home - through the bag on the floor and go to bed. Playing when I was sleepy wasn`t fun at all , when u are sleepy - the only thing u want is to Zzzzz , thats how the school year passed. Interestingly, now I`m able to sleep 1 hour , literally and not be tired throughout the day and in the morning I`m not even sleepy , whether I slept 3,4,5,8,14 hours, I feel very similar. Fuck man I guess I`ll just post that already. Some of it was just to write it, for the sake of it, so it might be long. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On November 25 2009 07:06 Ryan307 wrote:I have severe OCD, and I the girl I'm dating has severe Trich which is an impusle control disorder. I have paranoia about me killing people/harming people, even though I know I'de never hurt a fly. For example when I used to drive, I would constantly be worried I was going to intentionnaly swirve into traffic. When I am alone and have sharp objects around me I worry I'm gonna hurt myself or other people, but I know I never would... My girlfriend washes her hands ~40 times a day and her hands are worn down from washing them so much. She avoids certain numbers and has some pretty intense compulsions. There are ways of recovering from OCD, I'm a part of a 12 step program that helps SO MUCH. 12 Step programs don't have to be all about God and all that (despite the wording of the steps). My girlfriend and I are very active in OCD recovery and all that, joining a 12 step program was the best thing I've ever done in my life Ahh I used to have the same thing. But I have almost completely gotten rid of it without going through any program or treatment. It comes back now and then but I kind of learned how to control my mind on my own. It doesn't bother/affect me anymore. I figured out how to deal with it as time went on, maybe because it wasn't too severe. God did help me  | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On November 26 2009 00:13 Foucault wrote: This. And mahnini is a dumbass for saying that. Trying to make a bad ass comment in a thread where people are having more or less issues with OCD, yeah you're really hilarious. lol ok. everyone can have ocd then. everyone is special. | ||
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Mischy
United States179 Posts
(and pay 1 life/ discard a blue card from your hand) I say confront your obsessions, go out into no man's land. -HamerD | ||
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On November 26 2009 12:43 mahnini wrote: lol ok. everyone can have ocd then. everyone is special. It might be safe to say you either have OCD or you don't. But you said there are no such thing as a mild form versus and extreme form of OCD. The other day I saw a guy put his hands up like this ![[image loading]](http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/georgekarras/Images/cornholio1.jpg) hop in a 360, then get in his drivers seat. Had to be OCD O.o | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On November 26 2009 14:23 Rotodyne wrote: It might be safe to say you either have OCD or you don't. But you said there are no such thing as a mild form versus and extreme form of OCD. The other day I saw a guy put his hands up like this hop in a 360, then get in his drivers seat. Had to be OCD O.o lol sounds more like an advanced tourettes "ritual". OCD is not about moving around | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On November 25 2009 05:24 ghostWriter wrote: Well, I wash my hands really often, but I figure it's a good thing and haven't done anything about it. http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen01/gen01286.htm Its actually bad. Just wash your hands when they are dirty or have germs on them. | ||
rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
I was always the fat kid growing up, and being short didnt help my self esteem. Then in 9th grade, I hit my growth spurt. Also, I dunno if it was caused by my growth, but I started to become conscious of my fashion. All in all, I realized fat people can't wear clothes and look that good. So I started to work out and count calories. It was first called a diet, and my parents were very happy because I had never taken that kind of initiative before then. Then things started to get a little worse. I started fearing products like pizza and hamburgers and cut them out entirely out of my diet. Then I thought that if I skipped lunch everyday, I would "profit" 600 calories or so. So I skipped lunch everyday. Then it came to the point where I thought I could abuse my profit: since nobody knows that I skipped lunch, I would tell my family I would not eat dinner cuz I ate a big lunch. I told my friends at school I didn't eat lunch cuz I had big breakfasts and big dinners every day. I dunno if I was healthy, but I played alot of sports... I played soccer tennis everyday, and because I thought all the seconds when I wasn't running ie. kicking the ball, hitting the ball, were not calorie/time efficient, I ran afterwards for about an hour, and swam. I would calculate my calories so that I would consume less than 1000 everyday, and try to burn off most of it. In reality, I was probably netting negative calories every day. I went from 5'11" and 175 to 5'11" and 118 in the course of about 6 months. My parents were very worried and forcefed me, which made me run and swim even harder that day. The cure was somewhat simiolar to one of the posters' above: one day I went to Korea, I slowly stopped caring. All my friends said I was so skinny, and I was content, so I gave myself room to eat. It took me about 2 years to come back to normal weight, but now I'm healthy, and I thank whatever caused me to come to my senses. Sorry I can't give you specific advice, but I learned that Anorexia is caused by a feeling of having no control over your life. During the period I was in Korea, I got to go out everyday with my friends, and when I had people who accepted and liked me, I guess I lost the need to be in control of everything. Good luck to you, I hope everything works out | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
Also, I prefer going out the door I came in. Otherwise it's not balanced. None of this is set in stone, I can and do break it. I just tend not to, and prefer not to. It's not OCD, it just tends that way My dad thought this was funny and laughed at me and the rest of the family for their stuff until we learned that the temperature in his car has to be an even number :D | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
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liosama
Australia843 Posts
It's only really when I'm out. I don't use soap or anything water suffices. After that I wash my face then arms, and dry it all with tissue. It's probably not good for my skin in the long run :\. But you cant help it when you play guitar, your hands have to be crisp and clean. | ||
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