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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 20 2012 01:48 GMT
#1961
How about to save the townie Kurumi?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 20 2012 01:51 GMT
#1962
No he's scum with zeal 100%
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 02:10 GMT
#1963
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:

Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)

There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 20 2012 02:17 GMT
#1964
On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:

Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)

There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.



There's "hard evidence" on Zeal too sweetie, read those 10 pages before reprimanding us.

The question of whether we lynch Zeal or Kurumi isn't an arbitrary one, if they're both scum (likely) then it becomes a question of whether it's prudent to kill the one who might still have a power or kill the one who lived when he should have died. I tend to agree that Kurumi needs to die first, but I don't fault anyone for thinking Zeal is a better target at this point...who knows what other powers scum have?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:23 GMT
#1965
On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:

Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)

There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.



Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself.

Hipo-Creeeeeet
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 02:30 GMT
#1966
VE: Then we will lynch Zealos D3, honey. That doesn't mean the town has to run all over the place with their votes. The Mafia aren't going anywhere, we have to lynch them one at a time.

Not knowing what other powers scum have is not something we should be focusing on right now. That's not going to make them suddenly pop into our minds. We will find out like we always do and that's when they use it. It's impossible to know anything before hand. Kurumi has already used his power when he nuked RebithOfLegend. I understand that Zealos might have a power too but I think that's farfetched considering the amount of nukes and blocks going off D1. Right now we should keep our votes on Kurumi and continue to make cases on others that are scummy then decide who our D3 lynch should be when night falls and Kurumi's alignment is revealed.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 20 2012 02:34 GMT
#1967
On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:

Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)

There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.



Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself.

Hipo-Creeeeeet


First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 02:34 GMT
#1968
I have a Problem with Prob Probably cause he is an executive mafia...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 02:35 GMT
#1969
Some people are jealous cause of my mad detective skills
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:36 GMT
#1970
On July 20 2012 11:34 Chezinu wrote:
I have a Problem with Prob Probably cause he is an executive mafia...


ROFL, um thanks?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 02:36 GMT
#1971
I still don't understand why the Chairman of the Board would have a minion with a nuke..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 20 2012 02:38 GMT
#1972
On July 20 2012 11:30 Katina wrote:
VE: Then we will lynch Zealos D3, honey. That doesn't mean the town has to run all over the place with their votes. The Mafia aren't going anywhere, we have to lynch them one at a time.

Not knowing what other powers scum have is not something we should be focusing on right now. That's not going to make them suddenly pop into our minds. We will find out like we always do and that's when they use it. It's impossible to know anything before hand. Kurumi has already used his power when he nuked RebithOfLegend. I understand that Zealos might have a power too but I think that's farfetched considering the amount of nukes and blocks going off D1. Right now we should keep our votes on Kurumi and continue to make cases on others that are scummy then decide who our D3 lynch should be when night falls and Kurumi's alignment is revealed.

Or Zealos could be an executive. And we start crumbling their infrastructure a day early. We know K isnt exec, and doesn't have a nuke today.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:39 GMT
#1973
On July 20 2012 11:36 Chezinu wrote:
I still don't understand why the Chairman of the Board would have a minion with a nuke..


Well Kurumi is mafia, he had a nuke, ergo mafia have a nuke. Why would it have to be Chairman of the Board?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 20 2012 02:40 GMT
#1974
On July 20 2012 11:34 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote:
This thread is so messy it's not even funny.
Here's what needs to happen:

Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)

There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.



Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself.

Hipo-Creeeeeet


First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today.


"we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread.

Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first?

._.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 02:40 GMT
#1975
On July 20 2012 11:38 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:30 Katina wrote:
VE: Then we will lynch Zealos D3, honey. That doesn't mean the town has to run all over the place with their votes. The Mafia aren't going anywhere, we have to lynch them one at a time.

Not knowing what other powers scum have is not something we should be focusing on right now. That's not going to make them suddenly pop into our minds. We will find out like we always do and that's when they use it. It's impossible to know anything before hand. Kurumi has already used his power when he nuked RebithOfLegend. I understand that Zealos might have a power too but I think that's farfetched considering the amount of nukes and blocks going off D1. Right now we should keep our votes on Kurumi and continue to make cases on others that are scummy then decide who our D3 lynch should be when night falls and Kurumi's alignment is revealed.

Or Zealos could be an executive. And we start crumbling their infrastructure a day early. We know K isnt exec, and doesn't have a nuke today.

Do you know what blazinghand and VE have in common? They both said ##block.

PS: blazinghand is bad at blocking. So, what does that make of VE?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 02:41 GMT
#1976
The Chairmen and The COE will pretend to have an ability to avoid getting lynched as a chairman or COE...

Town people pretend cause they are bored...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 20 2012 02:42 GMT
#1977
What are you saying Chezinu
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 20 2012 02:42 GMT
#1978
Zealos is scum, I can't see him just completely ignoring the whole sandro-Kurumi deal.
Like...it's impossible. Kurumi being "confirmed scum" has been talked about like every single page, it's impossible for him not to look at those posts and say to himself "Hmm, why is Kurumi confirmed scum? Maybe I missed something".
Zealos was very derpy in MTG Mini Mafia, but not like this.

I don't see why we can't talk about a Zealos lynch or how that "creates chaos" or anything....since this is a lynch, and apparently it's the ONLY way we can kill scum if we have no Town KP, discussing who to lynch is not bad at all.
However if both are mafia there's no need to risk a NL by having votes pile on Zealos.
Considering town's non-commital to lynch on D1 it's bound to happen again, specially with 2 candidates everyone wants to lynch but won't be sure who to lynch first.


I changed my mind about austin, he's likely scum as well.

On July 18 2012 10:16 austinmcc wrote:
I'd prefer to vote for GGQ (or Sandro), but those aren't lynch options. Gonzaw looks like the candidate on the block now, and I'm okay with a gonzaw vote

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 04:17 gonzaw wrote:
@Palmar: Could you post why you think me, GGQ and others are scum? I agree about syllo and Foo, but that's not news at all.

...

I haven't read MZ, GGQ, austin, and other's but I will after I come home in a few hours.
Besides the other stuff that's been mentioned, here's Gonzaw giving some specific filters that he's going to read.

Gonzaw comes back from reading those with:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:31 gonzaw wrote:
About austin:

I don't get why he's obsessing so much with sandro's role. I'd understand having that first suspicion if he actually believed something was wrong (like in that post I mentioned), but he spent posts and posts and posts dealing with sandro's claim and ability and it clogged up the thread too much.
I don't get why he'd do that as town, specially since his doubts of sandro's claim were dealt with by other people, he didn't need to keep cluttering things up with it.
There are little things that don't make me confident in him being scum, like some of the confidence he seems to have in his posts, and the fact that he "overposts" like this as town.
I'm not that confident in lynching him, but I think he has more chances of flipping scum than BH.

##Unvote: Foolishness
##Vote: austin


I don't see MZ being scum after skimming his filter.
Damn I don't have much time for this, this game is huge :/
After I come back from the gym I'll post more thoroughly

So he skimmed MZ, finds him townie. Looked at my filter, had mixed feelings, but still voted me. It feels a little off to me that he doesn't mention GGQ, the third player he was going to look at.

If GGQ is such an easy target, why not add GGQ? Why not mention you found him scummy? Does Gonzaw have feelings so mixed on GGQ that he looks better than me? That's a little hard for me to believe. I'm know I'm a topic of conversation at this point, but he still finds time to mention that he read MZ and give his read on MZ. Sort of makes it seem like he didn't read.

It ain't much, but it's something that stuck out to me beyond me just saying "I like non-austin targets, sheeping dat vote"

##vote: Gonzaw


His vote on me is a joke. It basically boils down to "gonzaw didn't talk about GGQ, therefore he's scum".
The bolded bits are just pointless speculation about "why" I could have not mention GGQ (he also seems to imply I would have found him scummy...?).
Why does me not talking about GGQ make me scum? Like, why would you believe those words you said?
Had you just said "I agree with Prob's case" or something then it may have been fine, but you ignore Prob's case, specially if you say this:

Gonzaw looks like the candidate on the block now, and I'm okay with a gonzaw vote


It looks like he saw I was likely to get lynched so he just used whatever bullshit reason to justify his vote without saying "I'm sheeping Prob/sandro" so it looked like he made a contribution by himself.

It ain't much, but it's something that stuck out to me beyond me just saying "I like non-austin targets, sheeping dat vote"


This seems like confirmation of that above.

GGQ has like 5 or so posts yes, yet I don't see how austin keeps posting so much about him.
He was killed in Can't Believe so he should be free to play in this game, but his activity didn't seem to rise or anything.
That post I mentioned before is pretty scummy, specially in hindisight of Zealos being outted as scum as well.


Now that I looked at it, I'm not sure rastaban is mafia.
I get a gut feeling he's posting like Bang Bang, and he seems kind of interested in some of the discussions he's part of.


+ Show Spoiler [Something off-topic] +

On July 18 2012 04:54 rastaban wrote:
... Kurumi confirmed she received the PM...


Wut
Kurumi is a chick? O_o
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 20 2012 02:43 GMT
#1979
On July 20 2012 11:42 HiroPro wrote:
What are you saying Chezinu

The mafia knows the mafia knows

*whispers* I'm on the offensive right now.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 20 2012 02:44 GMT
#1980
Hey Prob, I didn't see you talk about me at all since N1.
Do you still think I'm mafia?
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