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Chezinu
United States7464 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:44 gonzaw wrote: Hey Prob, I didn't see you talk about me at all since N1. Do you still think I'm mafia? Shh, be quite... Prob is going through a tough time right now.. He tried laughing it off.. but deep down, he is r scared! | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On July 20 2012 09:30 Probulous wrote: @slOosh You've been in game a while now. I value your opinion ever since that god aweful mini, so what are your reads? So far your filter is just discussing other people's ideas. Any of your own? I've been focusing my attentions surrounding the "vet" players that I'm somewhat familiar with (basically people who played in liar game). I'm not sure who but someone said during D1 that many of these vets you can just leave alone and see if they produce results, because "if vet A is town, then his town play should be able to find and lynch scum, and since he hasn't done that he must be scum". But since bussing can be unintentional and quite easy to do, there really isn't such a way to evaluate reads on vets merely on their performance. We have obvious scum lined up for the lynch so we have room for discussion / gathering reads, and with the limited scum KP we can't just sit on the "we'll deal with them if they are alive D3" heuristic. On Foolishness: many people (including sandroba!) think he is scum and I'm not seeing it. I'd have preferred if focused his energies on someone other than BM (opposed to other vets I would like better reads on such as Palmar, syllogism), but that's alignment null. So I've looked into BM to determine legitimacy of his read, which I find myself agreeing with and I'm surprised that BM has been so easily dismissed because people are hunting execs, because 1) mafia is mafia, so dismissing it purely on "hunt execs" makes no sense, and 2) to think an exec couldn't pretend to own his minion's power is a dangerous oversight. I think BM is trolling mafia as I don't see any town interest in his posts, opposed to Chezinu who is trolling but has a few posts in which he shows critical thought / town insights. Rastaban's defense of Kurumi is really poor: On July 19 2012 22:59 rastaban wrote: First it seems that the only day or night KP is a single Nuke, and guess who has that, Kurumi. DO you really think that it would be given to scum in this setup and not town? Second, the whole case against him is how he responded to the sandroba text, and while mafia would have went with it, guess what I think a town might would have as well. It is easy for me to say I would have told town, but would I have, what if it as a mason group, etc... I can see someone knowing they were town going along with it for the moment. Third we really want to hit Scum leaders, So I think Kurumi deserves a reprieve and we start judging based on actions and not that he went along with a received PM. If he keeps up scummy then yes lets kill him, otherwise lets actually go for a lynch today instead of mindlessly trying to kill K. I find it an unnatural way of thinking, as if he is looking for excuses to defend him. We don't know if there is more KP or not as there could be several explanations of the missing KP, second point is wholly based on a hypothetical mason group that doesn't make sense, and third is contradictory, for the reason we are lynching him is his actions; the response to sandroba's PM. Yet not only that the bulk of the post is trying to redirect the lynch onto layabout, rather than trying to convince everyone how "mindless" they are and that Kurumi is town. Zealos's "failure to read" simply shows scum unable to weasel out of sandroba's traps. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7464 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:39 Probulous wrote: Well Kurumi is mafia, he had a nuke, ergo mafia have a nuke. Why would it have to be Chairman of the Board? I was trying to imply that you are the chairman of the board? Was that what I was doing? | ||
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:40 Blazinghand wrote: "we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread. Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first? ._. It just takes one or two votes to switch to throw the whole town into confusion. If votes start switching there is no garauntee that enough people will switch off Kurumi to lynch Zealos then we will end up with another no lynch. We are all in agreement and have our votes placed. I never said there wasn't a good arguement to lynch Zealos now, Kurumi is basically confirmed scum. Why would we mess that up now to attempt to lynch Zealos who may or may not be an executive? There is no way to know how high up someone is.... The speculation that he might be an executive shouldn't be allowed to cloud our judgement. Mafia is Mafia, we need to start eliminating them now. We really cannot afford more confusion and vote switching chaos again. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:45 Chezinu wrote: Shh, be quite... Prob is going through a tough time right now.. He tried laughing it off.. but deep down, he is r scared! lol wat I take it you mean Prob is mafia? Meh, don't see him as mafia personally, specially taking into account his D1 play, and seems to interact with people and shit. Don't know how he plays as mafia though, the only game where he was scum I remember was that Newbie one he hydra'd with Jitsu. Prob, you still have your past games in your profile right? Anyways, thank god this game is going slow because I think my mind would have exploded otherwise. I don't see anyone commenting on supersoft, *sigh* might as well try later on when people stop being lazy. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:44 gonzaw wrote: Hey Prob, I didn't see you talk about me at all since N1. Do you still think I'm mafia? I don't know, hence my silence. Your night post seemed genuine and if you really were too busy you will be better today. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7464 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:50 Probulous wrote: I don't know, hence my silence. Your night post seemed genuine and if you really were too busy you will be better today. oh... I thought you were being silent about something else... You the one with all the questions.. How do you like my questions? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:48 Katina wrote: It just takes one or two votes to switch to throw the whole town into confusion. If votes start switching there is no garauntee that enough people will switch off Kurumi to lynch Zealos then we will end up with another no lynch. We are all in agreement and have our votes placed. I never said there wasn't a good arguement to lynch Zealos now, Kurumi is basically confirmed scum. Why would we mess that up now to attempt to lynch Zealos who may or may not be an executive? There is no way to know how high up someone is.... The speculation that he might be an executive shouldn't be allowed to cloud our judgement. Mafia is Mafia, we need to start eliminating them now. We really cannot afford more confusion and vote switching chaos again. Wat you really don't know why we want to lynch zealos do you | ||
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Katina
United States454 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:51 Blazinghand wrote: Wat you really don't know why we want to lynch zealos do you I do know but people have been saying many different things about why the want to lynch Zealos and I'm saying switching votes now is not a good idea. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7464 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:51 Chezinu wrote: oh... I thought you were being silent about something else... You the one with all the questions.. How do you like my questions? What questions? You haven't asked me anything. Yes, I am asking questions. Mainly because there are people who have not posted clearly, or posted at all. I am trying to get clear positions from people. Consider it a period of reconsideration. I am not mafia and so I am not Chairman of the Board, but you have any specific questions, fire away. | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:40 Chezinu wrote: Do you know what blazinghand and VE have in common? They both said ##block. PS: blazinghand is bad at blocking. So, what does that make of VE? 2 blockers for with only 1 real nuke seems strange, if he doesn't have it and it is a nuke he is outed as well. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:56 Chezinu wrote: Are you scared prob? you know.. that I know your secret? Are you going to answer me? No I'm not scared. You don't know my secret because I don't have a secret. Yes I will answer you. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7464 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:57 Probulous wrote: What questions? You haven't asked me anything. Yes, I am asking questions. Mainly because there are people who have not posted clearly, or posted at all. I am trying to get clear positions from people. Consider it a period of reconsideration. I am not mafia and so I am not Chairman of the Board, but you have any specific questions, fire away. Who do you work for? you Probably don't know...if you get what i mean.. muahahha | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:54 Katina wrote: I do know but people have been saying many different things about why the want to lynch Zealos and I'm saying switching votes now is not a good idea. We have 24 hours now is the perfect time to switch. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7464 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:58 Chezinu wrote: Who do you work for? you Probably don't know...if you get what i mean.. muahahha Whilst a nice rhetoical flourish, how exactly do I answer that question? I don't know who my bosses are. I don't know if I have bosses. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 20 2012 12:01 Chezinu wrote: ya know, mini mafia 2 was a pretty fun game.. but this is taking it to a whole new level! OK I just skimmed that game and you were a detective. If you are implying that you are the same this game (you have of course claimed as such) with a check on me, then something is seriously whack. Chez, I know this isn't your style but can you be a little less obtuse? If you have a check on me than that is information we need to sort out. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:58 Chezinu wrote: Who do you work for? you Probably don't know...if you get what i mean.. muahahha Okay I get it. Your interpretation is wrong, but I think I understand your role now. You're going through the motions aren't you? | ||
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