TL Mafia 'Area' LIII - Page 95

First of all, I would like to address the glaring fact that his filter has nothing of content in it. 7 pages. 7 pages, and I have almost nothing to say about them. They are mostly one liners and him giving excuses for everything that he does. It would be so much easier to prove that he was scum if he would just do something, anything. Unfortunately for him, at this point his lack of content now paints him as scum. 7 pages, and no content? Scum trying to pass off as useful without actually helping the town.

It's interesting that now he claims that I soft defended StDaniels. It's the fourth time this game he's mentioned him. When were the first three?

1. [Day 1] St.Daniel one post, + Show Spoiler + Loved that part, i feel like only scum would have drawn that way, if VE and [UoN]Sentinel can defend themselves I will vote him.
   
2. [Day 2] Lot of people suggested Sent/Zeph, marv posted about Brood and St. Daniel.
   
3. [Day 2] BK started posting some weird stuff, hes voting St. Daniel for ninjavoting, but BM ninjavoted d1 too and he did not mention it at all.
   

I'm soft defending him by stating that I'm ignoring someone en route to being modkilled? No, I'm not going to even discuss someone who's not playing. It's a waste of time. What's your excuse for ignoring him literally the entire game?

This post is so scummy that any veteran player would have been immediately lynched. I was pretty happy to give him the n00b pass, but I don't think that's a good idea. In this post,

• he gives himself an excuse for not contributing to the town
  
• claims that everyone else in the town is useless
  
• advocates lynching into the VE bandwagon "for information" without indicating who on the bandwagon is scummy
  
• claims that lynching one half of a pair will somehow magically reveal the alignment of the other half
  

How gloriously scummy.



How did we get here?



You think Johnny is kinda sorta maybe sheeping because he doesn't give out any strong reads one way or the other (which is, ironically, the same thing that you're doing), and therefore he's scum. So what made you change your mind?



Johnny was sheeping away from you. Hey, isn't that why you wanted to lynch him in the first place?



"Don't blame me if the guy we flip isn't scum, because I'm just voting for not-me." This is such a terribly scummy post, it's not even funny. Mafia pro-tip: vote to lynch scum.

This segues nicely into my next problem with Ottoxlol: His voting patterns.

• Day 1: VisceraEyes
  
• Day 2: Zephridd
  
• Day 3: MidnightGladius
  

But why he voted the way he did was much more interesting.

His reasons for voting VE have been beaten to death, so I'm not going to discuss it too much here.

For voting Zeph:



But wait! That doesn't say anything about why he's voting Zeph! You are an astute reader! I can't find it. Ottoxlol has no reason to vote Zeph, other than to sheep with the town.

For voting MG:



Another sheeping! "Here's someone else's case I found moderately compelling, and here's something that is kinda scummy." Well, MG flipped green and he's right. We found scum pushing for his lynch today.

I don't see where any scum suspicion on Ghost comes from, he's at worst a null read. Someone said earlier that you should look at every action from both town and scum perspectives and I don't see scum acting the way he does. This is WIFOM, though and just a small part of why I don't see him as scum. He's been actively pushing ottoxlol who happened to be my strongest read prior to leaving and while this may be something he's doing trying to go for town cred, he's been pushing him from very early and he points out that the guys filter is 7 pages long at this point and useless.

I don't know how he's managed to go from being a lynch candidate day 1 with his vote on VE to someone who hasn't received as much attention as others on that list, but it probably has to do with his activity in the thread and general contribution. His bouts with BJ were annoying but who am I to talk? At this point I've given everyone who was on VE a baddie pass and this applies to marvel as well. I think it was stupid to vote for him, but stupidity != scum. Moving on, dude has 11 pages of filter, and while a lot of it is fluff, a lot of it is genuine scumhunting (even if he's wrong sometimes) and most importantly to me, he justifies his votes with well thought out logic. If marvel is scum he's doing a primo job of it.

Dude keeps making wild swings on my town/scum meter. One second I'm like damn that's some scummy shit bro, and the next I'm trying to figure out how scum could look so town. He's all over the map with his opinions, and as he said early on he sheeps b/c he's bad or something. To me I don't know how to take that statement. Self-depreciating humor is great, but it's also a great mask for scum. Regardless, he's been active and I don't consider him as a lynch candidate come tomorrow at this point.

Honestly, when I clicked on his filter I expected him to be a lurker that had somehow escaped my notice. Instead I find 10 pages worth of posts. Wtf? I had a complete null read on him. So I'm reading through all his posts right now and I see a few cases, he gives reasoning for his votes, but idk he makes a case on paq d1 and then kind of lets it drop off. I guess maybe he thought paq looked town and backed off. He does nice research, though, and he responds to a lot of stuff. Leaning green.

You have two pages of posts, and SOMEHOW in spite of this Janaan is green in my mind. Maybe it's a quality over quantity thing (his posts aren't all long either) but he doesn't sheep and he gives reasons for everything he does. Honestly, though, I wish he would post more. I hate lurkers, and if he posted more he'd be a lot easier to read. It's like the opposite of mattchew here, he posts not as often, but I thought he had been posting actively.

Dude has two pages of filler just like Janaan but I challenge you to find the same amount of quality. He's lurking, and the only somewhat redeeming quality I've found in him is that he doesn't really shit up the thread that much. It's like his posts are trying to direct people or something I don't know. He doesn't have that much to read, my feelings against him are almost strictly because I hate lurkers. But now that I'm going soft on Janaan I find it hard to berate him for lurking when there's other people lurking. I just wish no one lurked...

Didn't even know he was in the game until Day 2.There's quite literally almost FOUR DAYS between his posts
April 22 2012 13:57
April 26 2012 02:19
That's taking what BM has managed to accomplish and placing on an entirely different level. I have no idea how he avoided a modkill, but I'm leaning towards iGrok not wanting to fuck scum that early. Is he the second goon? Then there's this and this is the only quote I'm putting in here because it's atrocious.



Yeah? Lurking isn't good? I'm beginning to think that maybe the entire scum team just up and decided goons should lurk this entire game and see if town would rip itself apart. It's been working pretty well so far...

Caught somewhere in the twilight zone he has 4 pages of posts and I wouldn't say he's truly lurking, but he isn't posting that much content. He keeps making excuses about why he doesn't do anything over, and over, and over. Maybe that's why he has more posts than the other lurkers? I'm not leaning town on Sentinel and he's actually probably more scum than anything else in my mind, but he's been voting ottoxlol and why would he do that? That's some heavy WIFOM, though.

Honestly I hate the fact that he's tunneled me at every opportunity, but when I look at it from scum point of view I don't know why he'd give himself up like this. When I look at it from town view, well shit I would probably hate me too. Having said this, he isn't unwilling to consolidate his vote when he realizes it's a useless one, as opposed to BK. He's also been fairly active this game. I say this through gritted teeth, but paq is probably town. If he's scum he's doing a very good job of being town.

Finally, we come to the man who should have been lynched but because I fucked up didn't end up getting lynched. Then he managed to avoid another lynch and this is probably a lot my fault for checking out. Ghost just said in thread in thread that ottox has a 7 page filter that is useless. I'd like to expound on this and further push that he's the king of fluff. He's not actively scum hunting, and all of his defense posts are entirely useless. His defense against BJ's case on him was to quote it. That's almost all he does, is quote other people's work and either sheep on it or say it's bad. Just now as I'm reading his filter he posts cases on ghost and paq? What? His case against ghost is really just him defending himself and I don't even get his case against paq...

Given my previous case, and this most recent nonsense I'll be voting ottoxlol for the third day in a row if I live, which also happens to be why I'm waiting to post this list so close to day post. I'd rather not have a giant X on my back and they probably think I'm just making empty promises again. I was prepared for pushing BKExe tomorrow but Ottox needs to be lynched.

Tomorrow my first post will be ##vote ottoxlol