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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
September 11 2012 22:01 GMT
#1781
On September 12 2012 06:50 Gravan wrote:
I chose forumite over Z-Boson and Bill Murray because I am uncertain about them in general (as you chose to ignore). I also believe (also as you chose to ignore) that Forumite is scum because of the methods he is using as a 'defence', in addition to the reasons (such as flip-floppiness) presented in the strong cases posted here already.

The reasons you presented don't hold water. Why is pointing fingers and making cases a bad defense? If he flips scum, we can choose to ignore his reads. If he flips town, at least we were able to get his reads before he died.

On the other hand, if all he does is say "I'm not scum" in a dozen different ways, then all town gets when he flips green is... that he was green. Town gets no other information.

You seem to be thinking that the best defense is the one that gets a townie off the hook the fastest. No, the best defense is one where the townie contributes the most to the scumhunt regardless of whether the mislynch on him succeeds.

Forumite hasn't been flip-floppy in the past 24 hours--instead, he's pursued two alternate cases very strongly even though there's a gun to his head. This is good town play. My regret is that there are not enough hours left today to push a wagon on people lying on the exact opposite of the spectrum... people like you.
Что?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 11 2012 22:01 GMT
#1782
Night 3

[image loading]


Forumite walked through the streets. As every day, he was on his way to the office to do his humdrum job, but that's ok.

When he arrived, he found an angry rabble waiting for him.

"sup guise?" he asked.

"Traitor!" they yelled.

"no u" Forumite responded.

Unfortunately that wasn't enough for the unwashed masses, who wanted blood. Forumite had his bowels removed with a particularly curvy banana. The only problem is that his bowels turned out to be green. Oopsie Daisies!

Forumite, Vanilla Townie, was lynched!



It is now Night 3. You have 24 hours to get your actions in to Palmar/Quatol.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
September 11 2012 22:03 GMT
#1783
Vig please hit Gravan or MMToss.

Going to flip a coin right now between them... and

## Vote Gravan

Will check in once night is over.
Что?
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 11 2012 22:04 GMT
#1784
On September 12 2012 07:01 marvellosity wrote:
"sup guise?" he asked.

"Traitor!" they yelled.

"no u" Forumite responded.
lol

Go Town!

:3
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 11 2012 22:13 GMT
#1785
What a bad case, has so many wrong information on it, and much of it I've already gone over. Makes me HIGHLY suspicious of you for coming with it so late.

On September 12 2012 06:48 mkfuba07 wrote:
My vote is going to go to Z-BosoN. There are just too many aspects of his play that rub me the wrong way.

BKE played awfully

Following the BKE lynch, ZB's response was to point out how it was the veterans' fault because they wouldn't answer his question regarding whether or not there were likely to be multiple watchers.

Nope, wrong. I already explained this, not going over that again.

Keep in mind that Toad actually did address his question in this post.

missed this. big deal..

He also points out how he would have constantly repeated the question if he hadn't been forced to keep defending himself "unnecessarily". He points the finger at the remaining vets, says how townish he would have been had he been under less pressure to defend himself, and then martyrs himself by saying that he shouldn't have put up with the silly cases against him. All of this means absolutely nothing. His entire massive post seems like a waste of time to me, but it's clear that he's trying to turn it into townie points for himself.

I already said, I thought I was onto something at the time. Not going to repeat this, read my response to imallinson's case

Following the "vets are all suspicious now" paragraphs, he tells austinmcc to save his case against [him] for day 3, should [they] both live. He then elaborates on what he *would have thought* if austin's case *had come a little bit later.* Not only is he trying to completely stiffle a case being brought against him in order to pursue the illogical suspicions of all of the remaining vets, but, again, this entire section says nothing whatsoever. If this would have happened, then I would have found you scummy. Don't you think I could have found you scummy? But really, you're just thick.

I still stand by what I said. Wasting time discussing me at night would prove useless. Since the odds were high that one of the vets would die, we should just have tried to get as much input from them as possible. I gave my thoughts on why I thought this was a good choice, but you choose to ignore them.

Then there's his death post. Another post that I felt was unnecessary. He says that he thinks Hapa is town because Hapa thought he was town, and then points out how what Hapa said could just be a scumplay trying to gain townie points. I don't even know what we're supposed to have taken from that, but all it did for me was plant the idea of Hapa swindling town points out of our pockets using ZB's sterling reputation. It feels like he's subtly boosting his own towncred while calling Hapa's into question.

No. I said that hapa is almost surely townie UNLESS I die and he doesn't, and I explained why.

He then says that he didn't like Toad's good-bye post.

... Why are you writing a good-bye post if you don't like that someone else did it?

Yes, that's exactly what I said. I don't like good-bye posts. I didn't even say why I thought his good-bye post was scummy, and neither did hapa. We just don't like good-bye posts. What a dumb point.

He follows it up by saying that if Forumite flips red, then Toad *might* be confirmed town. He also points out how very good at bussing Toad is. Again, this entire paragraph tells us nothing.

As does this one. Actually, no, mine actually says that it didn't look like a bus, so if forumite was scum, toad would not likely have been scum.

Finally, we get to the "Lurkers" section, where he points fingers at everyone else in the game. He also repeats the fact that the scum vigi hasn't used his shots yet. First of all, he seems too certain of there being a scum vigi. He mentions it repeatedly.

I honestly thought there was guaranteed. Also, the first one to say this as an assumption was imallinson

On top of town not knowing if one exists, there's nothing we can gain from that reasoning. There's too much wifom involved. This is another case of ZB trying to follow a line of reasoning that doesn't help town (just like his irrational obsession with the number of watchers in the game) and only wastes time.

Wastes time in regards to what? Sheeping? I'm constantly trying to figure stuff out. I don't pause and think if I will look suspicious or not if I find something. I've made bad points and I've made good points.

On top of that, he calls for someone who hasn't even been a part of the game yet to be the top lynch candidate for D3. What were we supposed to discuss? How Lvdr didn't post and how I had to read 80 pages to get caught up? This part is a little OMGUS-y, but it's a ridiculous claim that can't be supported in any way. It casts dispersions on me when I haven't done anything. He was attempting to find scummy behaviour where there was none, and distract the town with it.

Again, I was assuming that mafia had a vig. I also said later that I was wrong for this

I apologize that this is appearing so late. I had to attend class and then ride the bus home. It takes forever <.<

##Vote Z-BosoN


I urge you to read everything instead of nitpicking things that could make me suspicious in your narrow little view. Half the stuff I've already explained. Don't bother me with shit cases please. You only show you are biased when making cases and can't read
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 11 2012 22:18 GMT
#1786
On September 12 2012 07:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
What a bad case, has so many wrong information on it, and much of it I've already gone over. Makes me HIGHLY suspicious of you for coming with it so late.

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 06:48 mkfuba07 wrote:
My vote is going to go to Z-BosoN. There are just too many aspects of his play that rub me the wrong way.

BKE played awfully

Following the BKE lynch, ZB's response was to point out how it was the veterans' fault because they wouldn't answer his question regarding whether or not there were likely to be multiple watchers.

Nope, wrong. I already explained this, not going over that again.

Keep in mind that Toad actually did address his question in this post.

missed this. big deal..

He also points out how he would have constantly repeated the question if he hadn't been forced to keep defending himself "unnecessarily". He points the finger at the remaining vets, says how townish he would have been had he been under less pressure to defend himself, and then martyrs himself by saying that he shouldn't have put up with the silly cases against him. All of this means absolutely nothing. His entire massive post seems like a waste of time to me, but it's clear that he's trying to turn it into townie points for himself.

I already said, I thought I was onto something at the time. Not going to repeat this, read my response to imallinson's case

Following the "vets are all suspicious now" paragraphs, he tells austinmcc to save his case against [him] for day 3, should [they] both live. He then elaborates on what he *would have thought* if austin's case *had come a little bit later.* Not only is he trying to completely stiffle a case being brought against him in order to pursue the illogical suspicions of all of the remaining vets, but, again, this entire section says nothing whatsoever. If this would have happened, then I would have found you scummy. Don't you think I could have found you scummy? But really, you're just thick.

I still stand by what I said. Wasting time discussing me at night would prove useless. Since the odds were high that one of the vets would die, we should just have tried to get as much input from them as possible. I gave my thoughts on why I thought this was a good choice, but you choose to ignore them.

Then there's his death post. Another post that I felt was unnecessary. He says that he thinks Hapa is town because Hapa thought he was town, and then points out how what Hapa said could just be a scumplay trying to gain townie points. I don't even know what we're supposed to have taken from that, but all it did for me was plant the idea of Hapa swindling town points out of our pockets using ZB's sterling reputation. It feels like he's subtly boosting his own towncred while calling Hapa's into question.

No. I said that hapa is almost surely townie UNLESS I die and he doesn't, and I explained why.

He then says that he didn't like Toad's good-bye post.

... Why are you writing a good-bye post if you don't like that someone else did it?

Yes, that's exactly what I said. I don't like good-bye posts. I didn't even say why I thought his good-bye post was scummy, and neither did hapa. We just don't like good-bye posts. What a dumb point.

He follows it up by saying that if Forumite flips red, then Toad *might* be confirmed town. He also points out how very good at bussing Toad is. Again, this entire paragraph tells us nothing.

As does this one. Actually, no, mine actually says that it didn't look like a bus, so if forumite was scum, toad would not likely have been scum.

Finally, we get to the "Lurkers" section, where he points fingers at everyone else in the game. He also repeats the fact that the scum vigi hasn't used his shots yet. First of all, he seems too certain of there being a scum vigi. He mentions it repeatedly.

I honestly thought there was guaranteed. Also, the first one to say this as an assumption was imallinson

On top of town not knowing if one exists, there's nothing we can gain from that reasoning. There's too much wifom involved. This is another case of ZB trying to follow a line of reasoning that doesn't help town (just like his irrational obsession with the number of watchers in the game) and only wastes time.

Wastes time in regards to what? Sheeping? I'm constantly trying to figure stuff out. I don't pause and think if I will look suspicious or not if I find something. I've made bad points and I've made good points.

On top of that, he calls for someone who hasn't even been a part of the game yet to be the top lynch candidate for D3. What were we supposed to discuss? How Lvdr didn't post and how I had to read 80 pages to get caught up? This part is a little OMGUS-y, but it's a ridiculous claim that can't be supported in any way. It casts dispersions on me when I haven't done anything. He was attempting to find scummy behaviour where there was none, and distract the town with it.

Again, I was assuming that mafia had a vig. I also said later that I was wrong for this

I apologize that this is appearing so late. I had to attend class and then ride the bus home. It takes forever <.<

##Vote Z-BosoN


I urge you to read everything instead of nitpicking things that could make me suspicious in your narrow little view. Half the stuff I've already explained. Don't bother me with shit cases please. You only show you are biased when making cases and can't read

He didn't vote the guy that flipped town so he is scum?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 11 2012 22:18 GMT
#1787
SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT Z-BOSON
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
September 11 2012 22:21 GMT
#1788
Actually I don't think a scum would act the way Z-Boson is playing. He is just playing extremely bad. You may say, grush stfu ur a stupid troll. Yes, but the point still stands.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Maverick32x
Profile Joined April 2011
United States311 Posts
September 11 2012 22:50 GMT
#1789
Okay.

Just read through the latest lynch... I was planning on dropping my notes but it just would look cluttered so I'm going to settle with the people that I'm REALLY sure are mafia and give my explanation for it. I am ranking them in the order of my confidence in my read.

My top 3 are tied for number 1 reads.

ShiaoPi - Scummy. Really scummy. DISAPPEARS when the vote comes. <- this is copied straight out of my notes that I was taking.... Honestly.. just read through his filter/posts!! There is no way this guy is town. 0. No chance. I think he voted Z-Boson because he knew it would be a throw-away vote.

Shady Sands- just scummy. Hard defends Shiao. Argues with Hapa (town). DISAPPEARS when the vote comes. <- So similar to the play style of ShiaoPi and there seems to be some really slight buddying occurring. He continues to live in "Matthchew" land and never seems to snap into the current thread which kind of shows me a lack of understanding. His most recent attack on Gravan to be honest is just an attempt to push an early vote while scum is being successful.

Rewok- side steps responsibility constantly. He has ONE PAGE OF FILTER. (@!#*(@!* So either awful town, or scum.


DoYouHas Mementoss- Totally uninvolved. Voted me besides it having zero impact on the game.
Scummy. His ONE saving grace is that he repped DoYouHas... the only problem with that is DoYouHas was kind of scummy.... and Mementoss is doing just about nothing to save that... Also Shady's 'coin flip' indicates that one of his options is scum... and its Mementoss.


Toadesstern- Random poker talk? Discusses roles bit. Rustles up the forumite case based off a different game. Makes an interesting accusation that either Grush OR sandy is scum… makes me think Grush is likely town and Shadey is scum based on my reads above. Defends Shady shortly after that "Or" post and soft attacks him same post indicating some sort of ambivalence about being too closely connected. DISAPPEARS when its voting time, even though he kind of was a major advocate of the Forumite lynch at the start.....


slosh- posts late. Softly attacks forumite. References past games a lot. Afks most of the game when discussions are getting active. Gets active on Forumite then gone. He references that scum's plan is likely to lay low.. which is exactly what he is doing.

So there you have it. It will take a miracle from God to get me to vote anyone but those top 3. The bottom 3 have some leverage to work with, but not much.
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Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 11 2012 23:04 GMT
#1790
On September 12 2012 07:18 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 07:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
What a bad case, has so many wrong information on it, and much of it I've already gone over. Makes me HIGHLY suspicious of you for coming with it so late.

On September 12 2012 06:48 mkfuba07 wrote:
My vote is going to go to Z-BosoN. There are just too many aspects of his play that rub me the wrong way.

BKE played awfully

Following the BKE lynch, ZB's response was to point out how it was the veterans' fault because they wouldn't answer his question regarding whether or not there were likely to be multiple watchers.

Nope, wrong. I already explained this, not going over that again.

Keep in mind that Toad actually did address his question in this post.

missed this. big deal..

He also points out how he would have constantly repeated the question if he hadn't been forced to keep defending himself "unnecessarily". He points the finger at the remaining vets, says how townish he would have been had he been under less pressure to defend himself, and then martyrs himself by saying that he shouldn't have put up with the silly cases against him. All of this means absolutely nothing. Odds are, scummies will be the first ones to react negatively to this post. Keep this in mind. His entire massive post seems like a waste of time to me, but it's clear that he's trying to turn it into townie points for himself.

I already said, I thought I was onto something at the time. Not going to repeat this, read my response to imallinson's case

Following the "vets are all suspicious now" paragraphs, he tells austinmcc to save his case against [him] for day 3, should [they] both live. He then elaborates on what he *would have thought* if austin's case *had come a little bit later.* Not only is he trying to completely stiffle a case being brought against him in order to pursue the illogical suspicions of all of the remaining vets, but, again, this entire section says nothing whatsoever. I expect fuba to react, but I have a town read on him. If this would have happened, then I would have found you scummy. Don't you think I could have found you scummy? But really, you're just thick.

I still stand by what I said. Wasting time discussing me at night would prove useless. Since the odds were high that one of the vets would die, we should just have tried to get as much input from them as possible. I gave my thoughts on why I thought this was a good choice, but you choose to ignore them.

Then there's his death post. Another post that I felt was unnecessary. So yea, whoever has the weakest vote on me and reacts negatively here has a very high chance of being scum. He says that he thinks Hapa is town because Hapa thought he was town, and then points out how what Hapa said could just be a scumplay trying to gain townie points. I don't even know what we're supposed to have taken from that, but all it did for me was plant the idea of Hapa swindling town points out of our pockets using ZB's sterling reputation. It feels like he's subtly boosting his own towncred while calling Hapa's into question.

No. I said that hapa is almost surely townie UNLESS I die and he doesn't, and I explained why.

He then says that he didn't like Toad's good-bye post.

... Why are you writing a good-bye post if you don't like that someone else did it?

Yes, that's exactly what I said. I don't like good-bye posts. I didn't even say why I thought his good-bye post was scummy, and neither did hapa. We just don't like good-bye posts. What a dumb point.

He follows it up by saying that if Forumite flips red, then Toad *might* be confirmed town. He also points out how very good at bussing Toad is. Again, this entire paragraph tells us nothing.

As does this one. Actually, no, mine actually says that it didn't look like a bus, so if forumite was scum, toad would not likely have been scum.

Finally, we get to the "Lurkers" section, where he points fingers at everyone else in the game. He also repeats the fact that the scum vigi hasn't used his shots yet. First of all, he seems too certain of there being a scum vigi. He mentions it repeatedly.

I honestly thought there was guaranteed. Also, the first one to say this as an assumption was imallinson

On top of town not knowing if one exists, there's nothing we can gain from that reasoning. There's too much wifom involved. This is another case of ZB trying to follow a line of reasoning that doesn't help town (just like his irrational obsession with the number of watchers in the game) and only wastes time.

Wastes time in regards to what? Sheeping? I'm constantly trying to figure stuff out. I don't pause and think if I will look suspicious or not if I find something. I've made bad points and I've made good points.

On top of that, he calls for someone who hasn't even been a part of the game yet to be the top lynch candidate for D3. What were we supposed to discuss? How Lvdr didn't post and how I had to read 80 pages to get caught up? This part is a little OMGUS-y, but it's a ridiculous claim that can't be supported in any way. It casts dispersions on me when I haven't done anything. He was attempting to find scummy behaviour where there was none, and distract the town with it.

Again, I was assuming that mafia had a vig. I also said later that I was wrong for this

I apologize that this is appearing so late. I had to attend class and then ride the bus home. It takes forever <.<

##Vote Z-BosoN


I urge you to read everything instead of nitpicking things that could make me suspicious in your narrow little view. Half the stuff I've already explained. Don't bother me with shit cases please. You only show you are biased when making cases and can't read

He didn't vote the guy that flipped town so he is scum?


Didn't say he was scum, said it made me suspicious.
Also, I agree that I am playing extremely bad in a sense that you can easily find things in my filter. I don't pause and think about every little detail I write. In the sense of actually doing shit, I'm doing a much better job than you.




Let me make some things clear here if we want to win this. First off:

THOU SHALT NOT SHEEP!


Forumite's case was brought by toad and hopeless. Toad's was a meta read. The rest was just stupid dumb sheeping. I hope that at least his death can make you realize why sheeping is bad. What did we learn with this lynch? absolutely nothing. Why? Because Forumite's case was extremely weak. You guys overlooked real standing cases on mav, Bill Murray, and some pre-existing ones on gravan and ShiaoPi, which actually had real arguments, and not the "He looks suspicious and doesn't make reads" garbage I've ranted so much about.

As much as you felt Forumite was scum, it couldn't have been more than a "feeling" he was scum, just how forumite, despite all I've said, had a dumb "feeling" I was scum and would not let it go, despite there being much better lynches.

Now we are still stuck with the BM case, with an increasingly suspicious Toad, and with tons of lurkers just reading and having fun in the scum QT.

Scum are having the time of their lives with this, they don't even have to bother with making cases. And are just laying back and chillin. So I will propose the following. Some of you haters will not like this, but think about it one bit and see it makes sense.

THOU SHALT NOT LYNCH ACTIVE PLAYERS!


Of course, this being namely me. We're starting to get into a bad position where we cannot afford to make baseless lynches. I'm posting a lot, and I don't think whether a post will make me look suspicious or not, but either way I'm actually trying to scumhunt. If I indeed am scum, then keeping me alive is actually great, because I will make interactions with a bunch of people, with my scumbuddies, and blues will eventually find out later on. And once that happens my filter will become a pool of gold.

I am not scum, however, and I would like to focus on actually making decent reads and going after decent targets with real evidence on them, not just the superficial crap I'm getting handed to me and the weak of a case that foru had. Keep in mind that scum want me dead, and will support making cases on me, so don't get easily swayed in this regard.

I've given good reason to stop with these "cases" against me, considering both me being scum and me being townie. Why am I doing this? As townie, it's because I want to scumhunt without having to keep defending myself. If I am scum, I'm playing very stupidly, as it is much much easier to sit and lurk, and I will also be giving extra evidence through my filter, the more I post. Mafia gains nothing in stalling my death.

And once again, as this bears repeating:

THOU SHALT NOT SHEEP!


Keywords: LOGIC. REASON. ARGUMENTS. MAKES SENSE.
Taboo: SEEMS. SCUMMY. SUSPICIOUS. WAY HE'S BEEN ACTING.

Now please let us get our heads straight.

Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 11 2012 23:05 GMT
#1791
Now that that's out of the way, I will go over some filters before the night is done.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
September 11 2012 23:09 GMT
#1792
Also, with mav's latest posts, I have a townie read off of him. Regarding the points I had on him, I'll go with bad townie who's coming around instead of scum. This, too, because I was about to add that Shiaopi seems like the best lynch at the moment, and saw his above post.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 12 2012 00:19 GMT
#1793
To the people saying Im uninvolved do you realize, I had 90 pages to catch up on. I guess this is what happens when you get replaced in.

Also you realize all the fucking people that made day 3 worthless by dropping by and saying forumite def scum lolololololol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
September 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#1794
On September 12 2012 07:50 Maverick32x wrote:
Okay.

Just read through the latest lynch... I was planning on dropping my notes but it just would look cluttered so I'm going to settle with the people that I'm REALLY sure are mafia and give my explanation for it. I am ranking them in the order of my confidence in my read.

My top 3 are tied for number 1 reads.

ShiaoPi - Scummy. Really scummy. DISAPPEARS when the vote comes. <- this is copied straight out of my notes that I was taking.... Honestly.. just read through his filter/posts!! There is no way this guy is town. 0. No chance. I think he voted Z-Boson because he knew it would be a throw-away vote.

Shady Sands- just scummy. Hard defends Shiao. Argues with Hapa (town). DISAPPEARS when the vote comes. <- So similar to the play style of ShiaoPi and there seems to be some really slight buddying occurring. He continues to live in "Matthchew" land and never seems to snap into the current thread which kind of shows me a lack of understanding. His most recent attack on Gravan to be honest is just an attempt to push an early vote while scum is being successful.

Rewok- side steps responsibility constantly. He has ONE PAGE OF FILTER. (@!#*(@!* So either awful town, or scum.


DoYouHas Mementoss- Totally uninvolved. Voted me besides it having zero impact on the game.
Scummy. His ONE saving grace is that he repped DoYouHas... the only problem with that is DoYouHas was kind of scummy.... and Mementoss is doing just about nothing to save that... Also Shady's 'coin flip' indicates that one of his options is scum... and its Mementoss.


Toadesstern- Random poker talk? Discusses roles bit. Rustles up the forumite case based off a different game. Makes an interesting accusation that either Grush OR sandy is scum… makes me think Grush is likely town and Shadey is scum based on my reads above. Defends Shady shortly after that "Or" post and soft attacks him same post indicating some sort of ambivalence about being too closely connected. DISAPPEARS when its voting time, even though he kind of was a major advocate of the Forumite lynch at the start.....


slosh- posts late. Softly attacks forumite. References past games a lot. Afks most of the game when discussions are getting active. Gets active on Forumite then gone. He references that scum's plan is likely to lay low.. which is exactly what he is doing.

So there you have it. It will take a miracle from God to get me to vote anyone but those top 3. The bottom 3 have some leverage to work with, but not much.


Shit son 8 mafia in a 26 person game. Also everything about your TOP 3 scum reads can be said about you, you have a 2 page filter and lurk just as much as shiopi, shady sands or rewok. So why doesn't the case on them apply to you?
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 12 2012 00:31 GMT
#1795
Gg forumite...
Mav just stop with your "case" against me. It's silly, I disappear from the lynch because I sleep during deadline. If you have read my filter like you claim to do, you should know what timezone I'm in.... Also my got on boson was no throwaway. I said I don't want to lynch forumite, so I voted for boson, who is scummy and who had the 2nd most votes. How that is throwaway is beyond me. I was tending a scumread on you, but that postIng looks more like stupid townie.

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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 12 2012 00:33 GMT
#1796
Ebwop:

My vote on boson it should read. Not got :S
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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 12 2012 00:44 GMT
#1797
ARGGHHH!!!!

This game is so annoying.

ShaioPi I want you to answer this one before deadline: Mav - do you think he is scum?

imallinson: any reason why you decided to snip out the timestamps in this post?
On September 12 2012 00:09 imallinson wrote:
Z-Boson
The main thing that seems really off is this:
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Can we, with bloodyc0bbler's 100% certainty, assume that there necessarily is one, and just one watcher?? If not 100%, how likely is it?
I, along with everyone else it seems, don't see why this is relevant. He is trying to say lynching a blue is ok if we have another spare. I read that as him knowing BKE was blue and trying to justify lynching him. That screams scum to me.

Then we get onto this:
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Basically he's screaming out loud he knows austin is blue. Given how he was addressing austin, and the crumbs, it sounds reasonable, and is confirmed with this quote:
Seems really inactive, however, so I'm not calling off a potential vig shot there... *looks at austin*
Which is made AFTER night 1. However, his "crumbs", were made BEFORE night one, as were his other posts. If he actually suspected austin being blue, as mafia, it would be extremely advantageous to outright kill austin. He would be catching a blue in day one. I don't believe mafia would have the balls to note this and still not kill austin.

My only concern is the possibility of him just leaving crumbs everywhere with his random comments. If you note, there's a lot of stuff you basically can't understand.

I'm inclined to believe BM, however, because from his filter he clearly treated austin differently, something in which he did not do with anybody else. My questions are only to avoid this "random crumbing" theory I have, because otherwise that should be like a 95% clear.
followed an hour later by:
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First of all, BM didn't answer my questions, because since you guys are so blind, he threw suspicion towards austin AFTER he "blue claimed him"!! This is surely not the attitude of someone who was "absolutely sure he saw a blue". Observe, this post came after his so called "crumbs"
...
Bill Murray is SCUM and needs to die!
This sudden flip from thinking BM is confirmed town to scum in the space of an hour makes no sense to me. In fact thinking BM was confirmed town in the first place makes no sense in itself.

Forumite still seems off to me but ZB's posting screams scum, much more so than Forumite's. How he handled the BKE thing was just plain weird and anti-town and the flip on BM makes no sense from a town perspective either.

##Unvote
##Vote: Z-Boson


Because you straight up lie in quoting Z-boson's two quotes which have a whole day between this post and this post?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 12 2012 00:45 GMT
#1798
Ah ninja'd. Good chance of stupid townie you would say?
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 12 2012 00:50 GMT
#1799
@sloosh:
I had him pegged as scum the day before ( even pulled out half a case), but his last post is feeling a lot like being a stupid townie. Not completely exonerating him, but lessened my suspicions. I would be concerned with toad, simply because he is still alive ( could change this night anyway) and also of bm it is hard enough to follow his train of thought, but lynching him always seems to end in coin flip cause of his trolling. Unsure about whom to lynch next day
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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 12 2012 00:52 GMT
#1800
On September 12 2012 09:50 ShiaoPi wrote:
@sloosh:
I had him pegged as scum the day before ( even pulled out half a case), but his last post is feeling a lot like being a stupid townie. Not completely exonerating him, but lessened my suspicions. I would be concerned with toad, simply because he is still alive ( could change this night anyway) and also of bm it is hard enough to follow his train of thought, but lynching him always seems to end in coin flip cause of his trolling. Unsure about whom to lynch next day

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