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exarezee
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exarezee
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Oatsmaster
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Also Oats, why do you first define a lurker as the least amount of posts, and then define him as having the least content instead? On July 27 2013 10:01 Oatsmaster wrote: We should lynch the lurker with the least posts. Koshi is clearly not one of them. Clearly. So Paperscraps, why is Day 1 hard to get solid reads as opposed to other days? On July 27 2013 11:35 Oatsmaster wrote: There isnt a difference between lurking and not posting. There is a difference between high effort low post count and low effort low post count. You are aware of WHY people start day1 by claiming to policy lynch lurkers right? We want to force people to post and contribute so we can get a read on them. This doesn't mean we have to follow through on it but if town plays properly none of them will lurk which forces scum to post. It's just a statement you make and then you move on, so move on. | ||
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Paperscraps
United States639 Posts
On July 27 2013 13:59 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont think any votes so far have been serious Agreed. The day has barely begun. If anyone has a serious FoS, they need to check themselves. Half the town hasn't even posted yet. I was hoping people would want to be a bit more "charismatic" today  , but it looks like playing the standard super serious pro-town meta game will be more beneficial to the passengers on this ship. It is just ever so boring, but I can deal with it.TLDR; Besides the first question on my first post, I haven't been serious at all. ##Unvote My first real read of this game is that I like where Tofu's head is at so far. I kind of feel bad, that exar wasted his time dissecting my shenanigans, haha, but not too bad  . | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Oats is most likely town and should be listened to. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 27 2013 16:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Clarity do you think Oats is mafia? No reason that I suspect him of being mafia over anyone else atm, no. On July 27 2013 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am just going to say that i'll be home in around ~10-12 hours so don't waste time on discussing my alignment before i start playing. Oats is most likely town and should be listened to. Enjoy your bday rayn. There's no way you could've left without a blanket statement like "x is town because I said so"? Pretty sure, from what I remember, oats opens every mafia game like this. Mr Firmtofu, why is exarezee looking town to you and why did you feel the need to share this with the class? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
I do not like how much discussion there has been about lurkers. The first post was palatable, but the fact that so many people decided to focus the conversation on it created an environment that benefits scum more than town. To talk about lurking policy properly would require a conversation about mafia-theory and philosophy, which is a conversation that allows scum to both hide easily and setup town-town wagons on day one. Paperscraps is the scummiest player to have posted so far. On July 27 2013 10:38 Paperscraps wrote: As in any other game of limited information. Day 1 has the least amount of material to draw from and thus is harder to deduce a solid fos. That does not mean that you should find a fence to sit on. There are many pro-town things that you could be doing on day 1 even if you have a hard time forming good scum reads. This post is so scummy, as it is just throwing mud for no good reason. On July 27 2013 12:43 Paperscraps wrote: Im just going to lurk for the rest of the day, since exarezee has deemed lurkers unlynchable. It is a full proof strategy guys. If you are mafia, just lurk from now on. You won't get lynched. I did not like this post by Tofu as I cannot tell whether he is actually prodding or looking for a soft target. The bolded part is what puts a scummy tone on the post. On July 27 2013 11:11 FirmTofu wrote: What? You don't want to discuss it? Are you deliberately trying to stifle discussion? If you don't want to talk about this, then what DO you want to talk about? Also, you are just naming people without saying why you find them scummy. Please explain why. Your suspicions mean nothing unless you elaborate on them. Exarzee is almost as town as anyone can be at this stage of the game. The only thing I did not like was: On July 27 2013 11:35 exarezee wrote: @FirmTofu I'd rather wait until more posts are made. I think only 6 or 7 of the players in the game have posted so far. There are good town reasons for withholding a read for a few hours or until a particular person has posted, however the reason given above by Exarzee is not a good town reason. I am willing to let it slide due to some of his other posts being very town. This post by Rayn is not scummy, but I want to point it out because I do not think that anyone should be encouraged to sheep. Sheeping generally helps scum more than town. On July 27 2013 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am just going to say that i'll be home in around ~10-12 hours so don't waste time on discussing my alignment before i start playing. Oats is most likely town and should be listened to. To finish, I liked the way that a lot of votes were thrown around early and I see benefit in continuing to do this, as it will provide extra information in the future. Since I think that Paperscraps is the scummiest player so far: ##vote: Paperscraps | ||
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Vivax
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Did nobody find my post scummy? Man I suck. Fuck lurker lynches. Lynch scum. ##vote stutters | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 27 2013 15:04 Paperscraps wrote: Agreed. The day has barely begun. If anyone has a serious FoS, they need to check themselves. Half the town hasn't even posted yet. I was hoping people would want to be a bit more "charismatic" today , but it looks like playing the standard super serious pro-town meta game will be more beneficial to the passengers on this ship. It is just ever so boring, but I can deal with it.TLDR; Besides the first question on my first post, I haven't been serious at all. ##Unvote My first real read of this game is that I like where Tofu's head is at so far. I kind of feel bad, that exar wasted his time dissecting my shenanigans, haha, but not too bad .You can have some fun and make jokes while also playing a serious game. You just have to make sure that the jokes are obvious. I really do not like the bolded sentence. You have made quite a lot of posts already, are you now trying to say that we should all ignore everything that you have posted so far because none of it was serious? Specifically, what do you like about Tofu? Where do you think his head is at so far? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 27 2013 17:30 Vivax wrote: Wtf guys. Did nobody find my post scummy? Man I suck. Fuck lurker lynches. Lynch scum. ##vote stutters I found your first post scummy before I read all of the following posts. They were so much worse than yours that they made your first post look like a scum trap. | ||
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Vivax
22391 Posts
On July 27 2013 17:33 hzflank wrote: I found your first post scummy before I read all of the following posts. They were so much worse than yours that they made your first post look like a scum trap. It was kinda designed to lure some response from scum thinking they got an easy target. But I need to work on appearing scummy, either that, or scum this game is a team of cravens (thx GoT). | ||
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Vivax
22391 Posts
I'm curious why you (hzflank) accuse people of mud throwing but didn't notice stutters with his little aggressive post lacking of followup. On July 27 2013 10:33 Stutters695 wrote: So basically you don't have a stance on it? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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Vivax
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Lurkers are liabilities later in the game. I don't have a problem with taking them out sooner, rather than later. If you are stuck in a potential mylo/lylo situation with a lurker, it is no fun. Of course, if some one is overly scummy we should lynch them first. Stutters replies to this with "You don't have a stance on it". It's almost the same thing I said (Lynch lurkers unless someone is scummy enough to warrant a lynch over them). Stutters only accuses this guy of not having a stance, not me, and I don't agree that this posts warrants this accusation. You agree with him that this post is not taking a stance? I think it's clear what Paperscraps was saying here, or do you think that this post is in some way scum afraid to say what they want to do with lurkers (which is in my humble opinion not very smart to assume). | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 27 2013 09:55 Paperscraps wrote: I don't have a problem with taking them out sooner, rather than later. If you are stuck in a potential mylo/lylo situation with a lurker, it is no fun. Of course, if some one is overly scummy we should lynch them first. Day 1 lynches are always interesting though. It is hard to get solid reads and judge interactions between players. That is not taking a stance. Taking a stance would be “I am going to vote for anyone who lurks”. Saying that you will vote for a lurker unless someone else is scummier and then going on to say that it is hard to get solid reads on day 1 is not taking a stance. I do not think that being afraid to say what to do with lurkers is a scum tell. I do think that attempting to mimic thread sentiment is a scum tell. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
hzflank, why did you spend a whole like 200 words shitting on town man. So you dont believe his words that he was kidding around right? Why? | ||
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Vivax
22391 Posts
On July 27 2013 17:57 hzflank wrote: That is not taking a stance. Taking a stance would be “I am going to vote for anyone who lurks”. Saying that you will vote for a lurker unless someone else is scummier and then going on to say that it is hard to get solid reads on day 1 is not taking a stance. I do not think that being afraid to say what to do with lurkers is a scum tell. I do think that attempting to mimic thread sentiment is a scum tell. But I said the same thing. Hi guys, I propose that we lynch the lurkiest guy D1.Obviously if someone looks really scummy then we lynch him first, but if that's not the case then we lynch the guy with the least posts Why is Paperscraps scummy for it but not me? Do yours and stutters' reasons only apply to single players? | ||
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