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On July 27 2013 12:09 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 12:05 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 27 2013 12:03 exarezee wrote:
LOL well played oatsmaster if he's scum. I won't be voting him anytime soon. His posts are not careful or calculated at all. I mean could be super scum meta...but I'll just put him in the clueless villager category for now. Im hurt. I still dont understand your reluctance to lynch lurkers man, what if every active player looks town? We have limited lynches. There is no evidence to support that lurkers are more likely scum than town. If we think both player A and player B both have the same chance to be scum, but player B has interactions with way more people...we want to lynch player B right?
Yeah but your hypothetical situation never happens.
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@Oatsmaster
so you would lynch a lurker over someone you think is scummier? I don't get it.
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On July 27 2013 13:09 exarezee wrote:
@Oatsmaster
so you would lynch a lurker over someone you think is scummier? I don't get it.
I would lynch a lurker if he is the scummiest dude in the thread.
Why are you insisting that we must lynch a relatively active player?
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I'm getting more and more distressed by paperscrap's posts. He starts off posting ok and it is just deteriorating.
On July 27 2013 09:32 Paperscraps wrote:
Ok, so no one has died yet right? I was a little thrown off by the Night 0.0 and Night 0.1.
LYNCH ALL LURKERS, MUAHAHAHAH.
Pretty generic 1st post. I assumed when he said to lynch all lurkers it was a joke.
On July 27 2013 09:55 Paperscraps wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 09:40 FirmTofu wrote:
To all of you that are out there...
Do you think policy lynching a lurker day 1 is a good idea? Why or why not? Lurkers are liabilities later in the game. I don't have a problem with taking them out sooner, rather than later. If you are stuck in a potential mylo/lylo situation with a lurker, it is no fun. Of course, if some one is overly scummy we should lynch them first. Day 1 lynches are always interesting though. It is hard to get solid reads and judge interactions between players.
2nd post. A pretty safe post leaving himself wiggle room. Says he doesn't mind voting a lurker because they are a libability later in the game. True, but it's more of a liability to lose the game before we get to late game. Backs it up that it's hard to get a read...reinforcing his idea that it's not a bad idea to lynch a lurker.
On July 27 2013 10:38 Paperscraps wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 10:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
We should lynch the lurker with the least posts. Koshi is clearly not one of them. Clearly.
So Paperscraps, why is Day 1 hard to get solid reads as opposed to other days? As in any other game of limited information. Day 1 has the least amount of material to draw from and thus is harder to deduce a solid fos. As the game progresses and people are pushed off the boat, you can begin to seem "teams" form and motivations for lynches and kills. Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 10:33 Stutters695 wrote:On July 27 2013 09:55 Paperscraps wrote:On July 27 2013 09:40 FirmTofu wrote:
To all of you that are out there...
Do you think policy lynching a lurker day 1 is a good idea? Why or why not? Lurkers are liabilities later in the game. I don't have a problem with taking them out sooner, rather than later. If you are stuck in a potential mylo/lylo situation with a lurker, it is no fun. Of course, if some one is overly scummy we should lynch them first. Day 1 lynches are always interesting though. It is hard to get solid reads and judge interactions between players. So basically you don't have a stance on it? ##Captain: Captain Jack SparrowAlso, anyone want to make out in a town car with me? 
So he knows that we need interactions between the dead and alive to figure out this game. How does he still advocate lynching a lurker? It is basically a waste of a day to lynch someone with few to no interactions. Have the vigilante shoot them for crying out loud or force the scum to night kill them.
On July 27 2013 11:41 Paperscraps wrote:
Lets all BW and murder this guy!
##Vote: exarezee
Leaves for a bit then comes back with this. I've thrown him the softest of scum leans and he comes back with a 1 liner. Notice how none of his previous posts have been similar to this at all.
On July 27 2013 12:43 Paperscraps wrote:Im just going to lurk for the rest of the day, since exarezee has deemed lurkers unlynchable. It is a full proof strategy guys. If you are mafia, just lurk from now on. You won't get lynched.
This is just terrible on so many different levels. I'm not even sure how to interpret this. It makes you look scummy at worst or a useless townie at best. I have absolutely 0 idea why you would post this if you were a townsperson.
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On July 27 2013 13:11 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 13:09 exarezee wrote:
@Oatsmaster
so you would lynch a lurker over someone you think is scummier? I don't get it. I would lynch a lurker if he is the scummiest dude in the thread. Why are you insisting that we must lynch a relatively active player?
Never have I said we must lynch a relatively active player? Can you show me where I say this? However, the idea that we MUST LYNCH a lurker is absurd and bad. If someone with low post count is deemed the best lynch candidate, then lynch him. But not because of his low post count.
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Yea it's classic scum play but I've never played with him before so not jumping to any conclusions. Scum are the first ones to make facetious comments like that last post you quoted. We'll have to keep an eye on him at the least.
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Low post count is a reason why someone is scummy.
Exarezee, why must you spoil the plan.
Explain the Paperscraps bit from a scum point of view rather than a dude who is joking around.
Cause thats what I see.
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On July 27 2013 13:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Low post count is a reason why someone is scummy.
Exarezee, why must you spoil the plan.
Explain the Paperscraps bit from a scum point of view rather than a dude who is joking around.
Cause thats what I see.
it's a subtle character attack that paperscraps is using there to discredit him. Pretty standard scum play. im like 99% sure exar is town just by the way the thread is receiving him.
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How in the world does low post count = scummy. I really don't get it. Is that the trend on this site or something?
Because if that is the case...the scum players are god awful and have no idea how to adapt.
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On July 27 2013 13:29 exarezee wrote:
How in the world does low post count = scummy. I really don't get it. Is that the trend on this site or something?
Because if that is the case...the scum players are god awful and have no idea how to adapt.
How in the world does "insert scummy post" always = scummy?
Where did you play before?
Also, if a dude posts 15 pages or more as town often, and posts 4 pages here, is he likely scum?
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Also, generally on average scum post less than the average townie.
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##Unvote
I'm not sure that the case on paperscraps has much substance to it, but at least it's something.
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On July 27 2013 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also, generally on average scum post less than the average townie.
I don't think this is the case unless the player is really bad. I don't think we want to assume some player is really bad.
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On July 27 2013 13:33 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also, generally on average scum post less than the average townie.
I don't think this is the case unless the player is really bad. I don't think we want to assume some player is really bad.
average. Here.
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Also you never answered my question as to where you played before.
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On July 27 2013 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 13:29 exarezee wrote:
How in the world does low post count = scummy. I really don't get it. Is that the trend on this site or something?
Because if that is the case...the scum players are god awful and have no idea how to adapt. How in the world does "insert scummy post" always = scummy? Where did you play before? Also, if a dude posts 15 pages or more as town often, and posts 4 pages here, is he likely scum?
I've played several hundred games on the 2+2 poker forums.
Yes, I agree with you that if u know someone posts 15 pages as town and 4 as scum, and he posts 4 pages and not 15...then he is likely to be scum. However that does not fall under your plan to lynch all lurkers. I will also say that this player is a really bad scum player and needs to learn to post 15 pages like he does as town.
I'll take your example to the extreme. Let's say a guy posts 15 pages as scum and 4 as town, and he posts 4, You still want to lynch him?
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If I had to lynch someone right now, it would be CJS. All of his posts are filled with fluff and he has a random vote on Oats. I'm hating having to decipher all of his wordplay in his posting.
Paperscraps would not be a bad lynch for similar reasons. I'm not as convinced as I am for CJS, but suspicion is still there.
Right now, exarezee is looking pretty town.
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I want to hear more from stutters and the people who haven't posted yet. For all we know, the entire mafia team could be in that group of people.
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On July 27 2013 13:36 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 27 2013 13:29 exarezee wrote:
How in the world does low post count = scummy. I really don't get it. Is that the trend on this site or something?
Because if that is the case...the scum players are god awful and have no idea how to adapt. How in the world does "insert scummy post" always = scummy? Where did you play before? Also, if a dude posts 15 pages or more as town often, and posts 4 pages here, is he likely scum? I've played several hundred games on the 2+2 poker forums. Yes, I agree with you that if u know someone posts 15 pages as town and 4 as scum, and he posts 4 pages and not 15...then he is likely to be scum. However that does not fall under your plan to lynch all lurkers. I will also say that this player is a really bad scum player and needs to learn to post 15 pages like he does as town. I'll take your example to the extreme. Let's say a guy posts 15 pages as scum and 4 as town, and he posts 4, You still want to lynch him?
my plan isnt to lynch all lurkers.
My plan is to get everyone to agree to lynch lurkers so dudes will post and so we have no lurkers. Why you gotta be so smart man.
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