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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
November 15 2012 16:17 GMT
#1621
like i would have been super suspicious even more so of hapa as he would have made two large cases on townies in that scenario.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 16:21 GMT
#1622
@Clarity - scumread, details for later
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
November 15 2012 16:24 GMT
#1623
hey uh crossfire broski i told you to be there up until the deadline. what happened you commented after the shitstorm any thoughts on it. I thought youd be there to with the swords of justice against hapa?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
November 15 2012 16:31 GMT
#1624
Friendly reminder that Night Actions are due in an hour before the normal deadline, aka in 8.5 hours from now.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
November 15 2012 16:31 GMT
#1625
nobody mind me by the way im just musing through some filter saying what i see.

Kickstart town??!!?

I dont put much stock in his case early on as i could easily see hapa telling him to be suspicious of him since kickstart would have never been able to pull a lynch on him. but i dont see him reacting that quickly to the sudden wagon.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 15 2012 16:33 GMT
#1626
I think Crossfire has a decent chance of flipping scum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
November 15 2012 16:37 GMT
#1627
On November 16 2012 01:33 marvellosity wrote:
I think Crossfire has a decent chance of flipping scum.

The blazinghand case out of left field at a stupid time still bothers me don't really see a scum doing that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 16:39 GMT
#1628
On November 16 2012 01:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote:
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless

Man, I realize I'm almost confirmed scum to you, but Hapa gave you a leg to stand on when he made that comment and I'll be damned if I just ignore that. I thought it was going to save you as scum, but it goes both ways in that he is revealing that there was more to his read against you that he didn't use to get you lynched. That is most un-Hapa-like behavior.


I'm going to have to reread that whole thing :/
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 15 2012 16:40 GMT
#1629
I do, it demonstrates that he basically hadn't been reading the thread, and that was going to be his predetermined contribution to the thread.

He popped his vote on Z-Bo 25 minutes before the deadline, and then as the night post came up, popped up to say "good job town".

There was no emotional investment in the lynch at all, nor do I see any signs of him being invested in the game. I just looked at his filter from Whose Line and he seemed waaaaaaay more invested in the game. Real life internet excuses or no.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
November 15 2012 16:47 GMT
#1630
On November 16 2012 01:40 marvellosity wrote:
I do, it demonstrates that he basically hadn't been reading the thread, and that was going to be his predetermined contribution to the thread.

He popped his vote on Z-Bo 25 minutes before the deadline, and then as the night post came up, popped up to say "good job town".

There was no emotional investment in the lynch at all, nor do I see any signs of him being invested in the game. I just looked at his filter from Whose Line and he seemed waaaaaaay more invested in the game. Real life internet excuses or no.

you do have a point there.

I would like to hear more from him as well as thrawn

Thrawn i kind of expect more from you and you seem to be just attacking peoples logic on why they were changing votes and not saying wether it was scummy or not. As someone who likes to change his vote all the time i dont really like just attacks of that kind.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:16 GMT
#1631
Honestly I would love to know where all the what, 8 other players are at today.

I count these ppl actually showing up and talking

Marv
Iamp
Hopeless
Clarity
BH - a little

Keirathi

Love how DP, Thrawn, Z-bo still not showing up

I mean, by pure numbers at least 1 of them is town, and most likely 2 of them are town

Then crossfire and kickstart....

Ugh
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:17 GMT
#1632
I guess that's 5 lol

SB did show up earlier for a little. A little lower than BH
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 17:20 GMT
#1633
On November 16 2012 01:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
@Clarity - scumread, details for later


Interesting. Please make sure to post it before night ends, and make sure I have some time to reply in the last hour in case I get night killed.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:27 GMT
#1634
@Hopeless

I'm going to give you a fresh slate starting now. I'll reread your d1 actions and such.

If I like your contributions going into the lynch, I'll strongly reconsider a scumread on you. If I don't, I will use d1 to smite you into the ground

ok?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 15 2012 17:30 GMT
#1635
debears, you're so cute
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 17:31 GMT
#1636
I wish you the best in your endeavors.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:32 GMT
#1637
On November 16 2012 02:30 marvellosity wrote:
debears, you're so cute


thankyou :D
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 15 2012 17:47 GMT
#1638
On November 15 2012 20:26 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not so sure. He shouldn't have preached at me though, like I'm not allowed to get reads wrong? Dunno. He's up in the air until that like 10 pages around lynch time get re-read laters.


I was extremely pissed I was getting lynched due to something I believe I'd explained quite well, in my view, and yet I was going to get killed over other people who had much better cases on them just because you said so, telling people to sheep you and that's about it. Those same people probably didnt read a thing I wrote or said, and just put their vote on me because ... yea.



I thought hapa was scum, but since it was mostly gut feeling, I didn't think I'd be able to lynch him day one. I've indicated this in this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=36#714

Here's what I make of the people on hapa's wagon using the logic that they had suspicions on hapa and didn't like the votes on me. Gonna just link the posts for clarity.

Debears is most likely town. The only reason he is scum is that he and hapa purposefully decided to smash at each other in day one. I'm not sure what to make of hapa's over-insistence that debears is scum, but maybe that's just him mimicking his town tunnel vision.

Kickstart's vote also makes a lot of sense from a townie perspective.
Here he shows he wants to lynch hapa..
Here he shows he doesn't like a lynch on me.

These two I'd consider town from last nights events.




Hopeless1der is someone who I keep changing my mind about. It seems awfully safe and convenient to keep his vote on debears. Basically says:

On November 15 2012 10:56 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:55 Clarity_nl wrote:
We're not killing debears. We're killing either zbo or you, so you better vote zbo. Unless you're superawesometown who sacrifices himself for the sake of town. I'd buy that.

fuck that, debears is still an option. Im not voting Zbo unless it saves me


So I could totally see scum doing this.
Marv, you said you had a town read on him, do you still think this?



There is one thing I'd like to know from DarthPunk though. He said this right before he died:
On November 15 2012 10:34 DarthPunk wrote:
I am flipping town.

Lynch Z-Bo and clarity.

BH and Hapa need to be looked at closely.

Marv is 100% town

Debears is my second strongest town read. You got this debears. <3

Perfection town.

Crossfire town

S&B town

Hopeless null

Everyone I missed. Null and forgettable apparently. Never been mis-lynched before. I blew chunks this game


GO town!!! <#


This post clearly says that he thinks me and clarity are actually scum, and that BH and Hapa need to be looked at closely.
Then he makes these two following posts:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 15 2012 10:50 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, if anyone is thinking of voting me, it is becasue you are blindly sheeping marv. Fucking read my defense, FUCKING READ WHAT I SAID REGARDING MY META. FUCKING READ WHAT HAPA SAID. It's a case based SOLELY ON META

DP is acting VERY differently then when he is scum gettingl ynched. I want to unvote him and vote for hopeless.

Also, if I for some godly reason to get lynched. Here are my reads:

Hapa: scum scum scum. Gonna go after him day 2 should I live.

BH probably scum. I can't fathom his claim AT ALL. Kill him should he be alive in like, day 3.

Rest of everybody I'm not sure. Marv is prob town, an arrogant fucking one who can't see the reasonable explanation I've given, but he's pretty much town.


Yeah die.

"Fucking read what Hapa said"

"Hapa; scum scum scum"

##Unvote
##Vote Z-Boson


This bussing is so transparent



+ Show Spoiler +

On November 15 2012 10:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
LYNCH HAPAHAULI.

LYNCH BLAZINGHAND. when he is alive day 3.

marv, hope you learn you are not the fucking god of mafia, and see that meta reads are only worth it if it isn't fucking obvious stylistic proven logical and pre-claimed reasons.


WIFOM



and finally:

On November 15 2012 10:58 DarthPunk wrote:
##Unvote

##vote: HAPA




So, DarthPunk, I'd like you to explain your thought process behind this. Why did you change your mind regarding me and hapa?
Don't tell me just this:

On November 15 2012 10:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:50 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote

Yeah marv's right here - DP's being pretty townie going down.

On November 15 2012 10:46 debears wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Hopeless


Plz for the love of god vote hopeless ppl


Can we please lynch this guy? Please?

##Vote Debears


Scum. YOu just tried to form a band wagon on me for this very thing you are doing right now. You are fucking derailing the fucking lynch and there is no way in hell debears is going to be lynched. Also town hapa would never do this so iam now talking to Scum hapa whom I dislike.


Sufficed. Hopeless is also someone who "derailed" the lynch according to this post of yours. Do you find him to be scum? Be more clear here. Don't come at me with your pissed off act and answer as best you can, if you are town.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#1639
Hey Bo-man.

Really unsure on Hopeless atm. My note against him says

"Could be either. ick. useless lurky. feels town. now not so sure. torn."

I've also uncoloured you orange for now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 17:52 GMT
#1640
DarthPunk (1): thrawn2112
Z-BosoN (5): Clarity_nl, marvellosity, Crossfire99, strongandbig, Hapahauli
debears (1): Hopeless1der
Hapahauli (6): Z-BosoN, Blazinghand, debears, iamperfection, Kickstart, DarthPunk

So marv and iamp

Based on this votecount, and d1 activity, I think we have a few good suspects
*Warning: No Hopeless1der suspicions were included in this post*

1) Thrawn - way off his town meta. Never has played scum. Wasted vote. Didn't care who got lynched
2) Crossfire - Vote on Z-Bo, who I believe is town at this point. Also, nothing useful d1
3) S&B - his d1 wasn't great by any means. I'll have to take a look at who he found suspicious

Out of the people voting Hapa - problem is hapa was scum and it was a really late bandwagon. Scum would've been retarded to bus their own teammate like that. Yet, it's still possible

1) BH - fakeclaim is suspicious. He is jk or scum (very slight chance of sk but doesn't make sense). I think he did start the bandwagon on hapa though with the "FOS if you would vote Hapa" thing
2) DP - D1 was very subpar for his capabilities. Pretty much him and thrawn had the same d1 in terms of contributions
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