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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 15:20 GMT
#1601
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:21 GMT
#1602
On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.


Correct. Liquid City is a perfect comparison here - I was playing a pretty nice game as scum, and then totally unexpectedly I was outed night 1 by a blue mechanic.

I went down, and then town fucked themselves in the asses for days looking at connections I had with people.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 15 2012 15:22 GMT
#1603
On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.

What do you mean? he had no reason to think he was getting lynched.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:22 GMT
#1604
see above
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 15 2012 15:23 GMT
#1605
On November 16 2012 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.


Correct. Liquid City is a perfect comparison here - I was playing a pretty nice game as scum, and then totally unexpectedly I was outed night 1 by a blue mechanic.

I went down, and then town fucked themselves in the asses for days looking at connections I had with people.

i didnt i fucked myself much later.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 15:25 GMT
#1606
On November 16 2012 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.

What do you mean? he had no reason to think he was getting lynched.


I agree, but to think that means he defended his scum partners and tried to move focus away from his buddies and attacked nothing but town is major WIFOM.
If people want to make association cases make it people's interactions with hapa, not hapa's interactions with people.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:37 GMT
#1607
On November 15 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:

Hopeless - what are your scum games other than Acme?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349066
Newbie 20
Hapa demolished me day 1. I doubt you find it incredibly useful.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:38 GMT
#1608
oh yeah, I remember that. Ho hum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:38 GMT
#1609
Do you have any thoughts on players/events now, Hopeless?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1610
On November 16 2012 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Do you have any thoughts on players/events now, Hopeless?

I think BH is full of shit. In Hapa's newbie scum game, we lynched a blue (calgar) at LYLO. Shortly thereafter,:

On July 30 2012 08:28 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 08:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
If "someone" would have claimed blue...
Coach advised it was wrong move + worthless so yep.

Guess who the coach was...

This is just more evidence that what BH did was ridiculous. But I guess we already know that.


Z-Bo's timing of this post:
On November 15 2012 10:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
LYNCH HAPAHAULI.

LYNCH BLAZINGHAND. when he is alive day 3.

marv, hope you learn you are not the fucking god of mafia, and see that meta reads are only worth it if it isn't fucking obvious stylistic proven logical and pre-claimed reasons.

Was RIGHT before the push for Hapa began. I can't begin to fathom HOW Z-Bo called it, but everything else about him looks townie about the way the lynch went down.



DP is a townread due to it being completely unnecessary to bus Hapa like that. Unless the scumteam is Z-Bo/Hapa/DP, it just feels like DP being town is the simpler explanation.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:47 GMT
#1611
how about debears?

who do you think comes out of this looking bad/worse? (anyone other than BH)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:52 GMT
#1612
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#1613
yeah, I know you look bad, sweetie, but anyone else?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:56 GMT
#1614
Not yet, dear.
*gives marv $10*
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 15:57 GMT
#1615
What's your read on me, Hopeless?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 16:03 GMT
#1616
On November 16 2012 00:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
What's your read on me, Hopeless?

Uhh....reading your filter is worth a shot, I guess. brb

debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 16:11 GMT
#1617
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#1618
^^^Guys look at this shit
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 15 2012 16:13 GMT
#1619
On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless

I dont think thats really what he is say at all he saying he would have been suspicious of hapa if you flipped town which is reasonable i would say.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 16:16 GMT
#1620
On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless

Man, I realize I'm almost confirmed scum to you, but Hapa gave you a leg to stand on when he made that comment and I'll be damned if I just ignore that. I thought it was going to save you as scum, but it goes both ways in that he is revealing that there was more to his read against you that he didn't use to get you lynched. That is most un-Hapa-like behavior.
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