• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:46
CEST 03:46
KST 10:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-68SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
protoss aoe skill expression 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #3/8 - Clem Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 Data needed
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4948 users

Mario Mini Mafia - Page 81

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 199 Next
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 15:20 GMT
#1601
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:21 GMT
#1602
On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.


Correct. Liquid City is a perfect comparison here - I was playing a pretty nice game as scum, and then totally unexpectedly I was outed night 1 by a blue mechanic.

I went down, and then town fucked themselves in the asses for days looking at connections I had with people.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 15 2012 15:22 GMT
#1603
On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.

What do you mean? he had no reason to think he was getting lynched.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:22 GMT
#1604
see above
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 15 2012 15:23 GMT
#1605
On November 16 2012 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.


Correct. Liquid City is a perfect comparison here - I was playing a pretty nice game as scum, and then totally unexpectedly I was outed night 1 by a blue mechanic.

I went down, and then town fucked themselves in the asses for days looking at connections I had with people.

i didnt i fucked myself much later.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 15:25 GMT
#1606
On November 16 2012 00:22 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 16 2012 00:19 debears wrote:
And was Hapa ever at threat for lynch before the swing? No way in hell. He wouldn't have to cover his tracks that early


Pretty sure he's not that naive.

What do you mean? he had no reason to think he was getting lynched.


I agree, but to think that means he defended his scum partners and tried to move focus away from his buddies and attacked nothing but town is major WIFOM.
If people want to make association cases make it people's interactions with hapa, not hapa's interactions with people.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:37 GMT
#1607
On November 15 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:

Hopeless - what are your scum games other than Acme?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349066
Newbie 20
Hapa demolished me day 1. I doubt you find it incredibly useful.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:38 GMT
#1608
oh yeah, I remember that. Ho hum.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:38 GMT
#1609
Do you have any thoughts on players/events now, Hopeless?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#1610
On November 16 2012 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Do you have any thoughts on players/events now, Hopeless?

I think BH is full of shit. In Hapa's newbie scum game, we lynched a blue (calgar) at LYLO. Shortly thereafter,:

On July 30 2012 08:28 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 08:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
If "someone" would have claimed blue...
Coach advised it was wrong move + worthless so yep.

Guess who the coach was...

This is just more evidence that what BH did was ridiculous. But I guess we already know that.


Z-Bo's timing of this post:
On November 15 2012 10:55 Z-BosoN wrote:
LYNCH HAPAHAULI.

LYNCH BLAZINGHAND. when he is alive day 3.

marv, hope you learn you are not the fucking god of mafia, and see that meta reads are only worth it if it isn't fucking obvious stylistic proven logical and pre-claimed reasons.

Was RIGHT before the push for Hapa began. I can't begin to fathom HOW Z-Bo called it, but everything else about him looks townie about the way the lynch went down.



DP is a townread due to it being completely unnecessary to bus Hapa like that. Unless the scumteam is Z-Bo/Hapa/DP, it just feels like DP being town is the simpler explanation.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:47 GMT
#1611
how about debears?

who do you think comes out of this looking bad/worse? (anyone other than BH)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:52 GMT
#1612
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#1613
yeah, I know you look bad, sweetie, but anyone else?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 15:56 GMT
#1614
Not yet, dear.
*gives marv $10*
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 15 2012 15:57 GMT
#1615
What's your read on me, Hopeless?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 16:03 GMT
#1616
On November 16 2012 00:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
What's your read on me, Hopeless?

Uhh....reading your filter is worth a shot, I guess. brb

debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 16:11 GMT
#1617
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#1618
^^^Guys look at this shit
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 15 2012 16:13 GMT
#1619
On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless

I dont think thats really what he is say at all he saying he would have been suspicious of hapa if you flipped town which is reasonable i would say.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 15 2012 16:16 GMT
#1620
On November 16 2012 01:11 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
I look terrible, debears looks townie to me because of the fact that Hapa has seen all 4 of his games but couldn't even piece together a meta on debears. Later on, I made this comment, when I was convinced Hapa was town and debears was scum:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2012 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
That's fucking rediculous debears. I have no idea why I'm going to respond to it, but hopefully I can show the thread how desperate you are right now:

1) "Overkill" case: I've used this in my TOWN games. It is not about "scumhunting too hard" at all. Rockband Mini for reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250&currentpage=40#796

2) I'm scummy because my case isn't based around debears meta. ROFL.

3)
Next post. No meta. Just an assumption that iamp was my top scumread because iamp had more content and that I didn't vote him, which he sees as scummy


ROFL at no meta again.
ROFL at not responding to my relevant case AGAIN.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&currentpage=47#937

4)
ISN'T THAT THE PROBLEM? HOPELESS HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS ZERO CONTENT


AGAIN, Hopeless is very capable of doing this as town.



But to all the townies out there, please read debears "case." He thinks I"m scummy because I'm not using a fucking meta read on him. But here's a meta read - debears is active as town OR scum, but what's distinguishing is his logic. This is a prime example of the crazy illogical things he uses to put suspicion on people as scum.

You've just committed to showing shitty logic from scum debears =\



In the event that debears was lynched, I would have gone straight after Hapa until he gave the meta case on debears, even after he was dead. He'd spent so much time saying debears was deflective and that he didn't need meta, but then

SUDDENLY!

A meta appears.


You don't even know i'm town, and you didn't then. You thought I was scum

Yet you sound like u knew i would flip town

##FOS Hopeless

Man, I realize I'm almost confirmed scum to you, but Hapa gave you a leg to stand on when he made that comment and I'll be damned if I just ignore that. I thought it was going to save you as scum, but it goes both ways in that he is revealing that there was more to his read against you that he didn't use to get you lynched. That is most un-Hapa-like behavior.
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 199 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL Masters #7
CranKy Ducklings45
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 219
WinterStarcraft216
RuFF_SC2 88
SpeCial 84
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3332
GuemChi 2243
Artosis 673
Noble 33
Purpose 21
Counter-Strike
summit1g13101
tarik_tv3455
Fnx 1155
taco 311
minikerr230
adren_tv106
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0550
Other Games
Doublelift3260
Day[9].tv811
Maynarde117
ViBE99
Mew2King25
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 94
• davetesta11
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra986
Other Games
• Day9tv811
Upcoming Events
Escore
8h 14m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
9h 14m
Big Brain Bouts
14h 14m
DnS vs Rex
Reynor vs Cure
Replay Cast
22h 14m
RSL Revival
1d 7h
herO vs SHIN
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
Ladder Legends
1d 16h
Ladder Legends
1d 18h
RSL Revival
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-05
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.