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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 10 2012 10:41 GMT
#1621
I was RB'd

GG Acro, it has been a pleasure playing with you. I'm glad to have my sneaking suspicions finally removed so I can trust all the things that you said.

If anyone else was roleblocked I want to hear about it.

My mind is all wonked out trying to work out the balance to this game 3/4of flipped townies are blue. There is an SK. There are three more claimed blues. We flipped a GF and a goon. Useless against a slew of Roleblockers.

DP: why were you so pissed about the massclaim? Weren't you going to claim today/last night during acction freeze time?

As far as I can tell lynching scum = lynching sk for us right now. Both have one kp and no connections with anyone else in the game. Unless four man scum team which is pants-on-head.

Risk: your head is certainly on the chopping block today. Who do you think should be under the axe instead of you and why?

Release: the hell are you doing? we're thirty seconds into the day and you have voted three times. Please build a case on Risk. A case. Not a statement.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
November 10 2012 12:17 GMT
#1622
On November 10 2012 19:41 Promethelax wrote:
I was RB'd

GG Acro, it has been a pleasure playing with you. I'm glad to have my sneaking suspicions finally removed so I can trust all the things that you said.

If anyone else was roleblocked I want to hear about it.

My mind is all wonked out trying to work out the balance to this game 3/4of flipped townies are blue. There is an SK. There are three more claimed blues. We flipped a GF and a goon. Useless against a slew of Roleblockers.

DP: why were you so pissed about the massclaim? Weren't you going to claim today/last night during acction freeze time?

As far as I can tell lynching scum = lynching sk for us right now. Both have one kp and no connections with anyone else in the game. Unless four man scum team which is pants-on-head.

Risk: your head is certainly on the chopping block today. Who do you think should be under the axe instead of you and why?

Release: the hell are you doing? we're thirty seconds into the day and you have voted three times. Please build a case on Risk. A case. Not a statement.


I was no less pissed about the mass claim at that time I can assure you. The only reason I claimed is because I was pressured into it and even then I was tempted to just lie and claim VT. It was all the speculation that was clearly wrong based on knowledge of my role that finally swayed me to tell the truth.

Yeah. I would like to ask in post game about mass claims. But ours was a joke IMO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
November 10 2012 12:21 GMT
#1623
For clarity. I was always pissed about the Mass claim. I thought it was a bad Idea and still do.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 12:59 GMT
#1624
I was roleblocked. I'm on the train home. We need to kill prom. Will elaborate when i get home tonight!
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 10 2012 13:35 GMT
#1625
On November 10 2012 21:59 risk.nuke wrote:
I was roleblocked. I'm on the train home. We need to kill prom. Will elaborate when i get home tonight!

Do you understand acro's logic case on why prome can't be scum?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 15:19 GMT
#1626
On November 10 2012 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 21:59 risk.nuke wrote:
I was roleblocked. I'm on the train home. We need to kill prom. Will elaborate when i get home tonight!

Do you understand acro's logic case on why prome can't be scum?

I've either missed it or misunderstood it. Please point it out to me. I'm home now btw. If there is a summary already about all acounted and claimed nightactions day 2 please let me know otherwise I'm going to try to puzzle it together now.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 15:28 GMT
#1627
On November 11 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:59 risk.nuke wrote:
I was roleblocked. I'm on the train home. We need to kill prom. Will elaborate when i get home tonight!

Do you understand acro's logic case on why prome can't be scum?

I've either missed it or misunderstood it. Please point it out to me. I'm home now btw. If there is a summary already about all acounted and claimed nightactions day 2 please let me know otherwise I'm going to try to puzzle it together now.

Okey it wasn't difficult at all but I've not been paying full attention lately.

fuba - jailed - promethelax
acrofales - roleblocked - release
scum - roleblocked - kush
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 15:30 GMT
#1628
Okey no I see it. if prom was the mafia roleblocker he couldn't have roleblocked kush?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 10 2012 16:08 GMT
#1629
honestly I dont understand it completely myself. He seemed really sure of it though.
Something involving roleblocks?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 16:12 GMT
#1630
Addidtional Day 1 Actions.
zealos - jailed - acrofales. (probably)
mafia - roleblocked - promethalex (probably)

Prom can only be SK if he faked the roleblockclaim. Day1. While it's not impossible I find it unlikely.
Now I really feel like shit for my play this game but I'm not any lesser then to know when I've been wrong.

Anyway - explanation: I believed Mattchews words that any scumteam that didn't include one of the veterans would be fairly weak and while most hosts doesn't completely randomise roles those who do usually still have a look over it and see if they deem the teams balanced or they random it again. Thus when I woke up this morning I wanted to lynch promethelax for likely being mafia due to previous suspicions + balance reason and if he wasn't mafia I thought there were a good chance he was SK. All in all a pretty safe bet to get rid of kp.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 16:23 GMT
#1631
On November 10 2012 19:41 Promethelax wrote:
I was RB'd
Risk: your head is certainly on the chopping block today. Who do you think should be under the axe instead of you and why?

I don't know. I was pretty sold on you as mafia. Going to go over filters again starting with mkfuba or release.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 17:24 GMT
#1632
On November 11 2012 00:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 10 2012 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:59 risk.nuke wrote:
I was roleblocked. I'm on the train home. We need to kill prom. Will elaborate when i get home tonight!

Do you understand acro's logic case on why prome can't be scum?

I've either missed it or misunderstood it. Please point it out to me. I'm home now btw. If there is a summary already about all acounted and claimed nightactions day 2 please let me know otherwise I'm going to try to puzzle it together now.

Okey it wasn't difficult at all but I've not been paying full attention lately.

fuba - jailed - promethelax
acrofales - roleblocked - release
scum - roleblocked - kush


darthpunk claimed the d2 roleblock on kush
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#1633
Judging from filters release look like mafia. However release can't be mafia for the same reasoning as promethelax.
mkfuba can't be mafia because that would leave unacounted for roleblocks.
Leaving DarthPunk as the final scum. He's buss is going to make it impossible for me to get him lynched instead of me, you would be pants on heads if you did. However lynch him when I'm dead.

kush/release is SK.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#1634
On November 11 2012 02:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 00:28 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 11 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 10 2012 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:59 risk.nuke wrote:
I was roleblocked. I'm on the train home. We need to kill prom. Will elaborate when i get home tonight!

Do you understand acro's logic case on why prome can't be scum?

I've either missed it or misunderstood it. Please point it out to me. I'm home now btw. If there is a summary already about all acounted and claimed nightactions day 2 please let me know otherwise I'm going to try to puzzle it together now.

Okey it wasn't difficult at all but I've not been paying full attention lately.

fuba - jailed - promethelax
acrofales - roleblocked - release
scum - roleblocked - kush


darthpunk claimed the d2 roleblock on kush

what?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 17:31 GMT
#1635
On November 11 2012 02:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 02:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 11 2012 00:28 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 11 2012 00:19 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 10 2012 22:35 kushm4sta wrote:
On November 10 2012 21:59 risk.nuke wrote:
I was roleblocked. I'm on the train home. We need to kill prom. Will elaborate when i get home tonight!

Do you understand acro's logic case on why prome can't be scum?

I've either missed it or misunderstood it. Please point it out to me. I'm home now btw. If there is a summary already about all acounted and claimed nightactions day 2 please let me know otherwise I'm going to try to puzzle it together now.

Okey it wasn't difficult at all but I've not been paying full attention lately.

fuba - jailed - promethelax
acrofales - roleblocked - release
scum - roleblocked - kush


darthpunk claimed the d2 roleblock on kush

what?

lol he did. I'm saved.
##vote DarthPunk
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 17:58 GMT
#1636
On November 11 2012 02:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Judging from filters release look like mafia. However release can't be mafia for the same reasoning as promethelax.
mkfuba can't be mafia because that would leave unacounted for roleblocks.
Leaving DarthPunk as the final scum. He's buss is going to make it impossible for me to get him lynched instead of me, you would be pants on heads if you did. However lynch him when I'm dead.

kush/release is SK.


why couldn't it be mkfuba as mafia roleblocker? not sure how you're singling out dp over fuba
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 18:07 GMT
#1637
On November 11 2012 02:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 02:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Judging from filters release look like mafia. However release can't be mafia for the same reasoning as promethelax.
mkfuba can't be mafia because that would leave unacounted for roleblocks.
Leaving DarthPunk as the final scum. He's buss is going to make it impossible for me to get him lynched instead of me, you would be pants on heads if you did. However lynch him when I'm dead.

kush/release is SK.


why couldn't it be mkfuba as mafia roleblocker? not sure how you're singling out dp over fuba

Because mkfuba have been roleblocking at the sime time as the scum roleblocker did making him the scum roleblocker an impossible scenario.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 18:11 GMT
#1638
I still don't get it. Why couldn't I take that sentence and insert dp instead?

"Because darthpunk have been roleblocking at the same time as the scum roleblocker did making him the scum roleblocker an impossible scenario."

"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 10 2012 18:11 GMT
#1639
We are 6 alive. We kill mafia/sk today. We will be 3-1 tomorrow. Mylo.

If you lynch me today you will be dependant on scum/sk to win.
1-1-1 (Kingmaker)
2-1-0 (Lylo)
2-0-1 (Lylo)
3-0-0 (Win by default)
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2012 18:23 GMT
#1640
On November 11 2012 01:08 kushm4sta wrote:
honestly I dont understand it completely myself. He seemed really sure of it though.
Something involving roleblocks?


It went like this:

+ Show Spoiler [old stuff] +
During N2, we had 3 people claiming being rb'd, and only 2 people claiming that they are roleblockers.

acro rb release
fuba rb prom
kush got rb'd.

Assume that there isn't a 4 person scumteam. That means that neither release or prom could have lied about being rb'd, because that would mean that there would have to be a 4th scum. If release lied, that would make acro scum, same with fuba/prom. So it's impossible that any of them lied, meaning either that there is a third roleblocker and probably scum because they would have had to have lied about their role during the mass claiming... or it could mean that kush lied and is scum. However that would mean that kush is a godfather because of my green check. A godfather is unlikely because there already is one, and because it makes sense that the third mafia is probably some kind of roleblocking role because of all the blue roleblocking roles. So kush probably couldn't be mafia.


However, dp claimed blue so all of that is meaningless. I am glad I typed it up again because it made me think about what the last scum role might be. If I had to guess I'd say it's some kind of roleblocking role. So is it one of the claimed blue roleblockers, or a separate unclaimed power role? I doubt it's an unclaimed role because then there should have been 4 people who claimed getting roleblocked during n2... and it would also mean there are other roleblocks missing from throughout the entire game. Roleblocks can stack... but there still would have probably been extra roleblocks from N1, right? So according to all that... I would have to assume that there is a scum roleblocker between mkfuba and darthpunk, like risk was suggesting. I'm gonna try to go over all the night actions and see if I can confirm any of the assumptions I've been making.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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