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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
January 15 2012 11:04 GMT
#1541
Hey Hiro, happy birthday!

I enjoyed reading your play in Mini Mafia X, but since I think you're probably mafia (thanks to Erandorr), no hard feelings if i try to get you killed.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 15 2012 11:23 GMT
#1542
I think we should hold of the double-lynches. We should still use them early on but not now. Possibly day 3 & 4 or day 4 & 5. Personally I would like to have atleast 1 or preferable two dead reds before we use them but if we don't we should still use one day 4.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2012 11:26 GMT
#1543
hey there, Not having a lot of time today but luckily it's only night and noone wants to post anyway. Just shouting it out:
BC masoned Sandroba. Those are the 2 most scummy people in this game for me right now, even prior to the palmar lynch.

The point is, that I think only one of them is mafia and I doubt that BOTH are mafia. Not impossible but pretty unlikly imo. Either bc is a scum mason or BC is a town mason and sandroba is the mafia in here. Remember that Sandroba made BC lynch palmar instead of his originial read (whatever that was at that time) via pm?
I don't know how likely it is for BC to be manipulated that early but I don't like it.
However, given that BC is in an office I'd much rather lynch in to Sandroba to find out which one of is scum and leave BC alive as long as possible. Because if I am / we are really wrong on that we're killing ourselves big time.

I would love to see those pm's between sandroba and BC.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 11:35:30
January 15 2012 11:35 GMT
#1544
I'm just going to get rid of the filter. Too lazy to try to fix stuff right now!

Alternatively, somebody can take time and fix it.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 15 2012 11:36 GMT
#1545
Good morning town, here my update post.
1) WBG. His “not entirely based on meta” campaign was actually fine to me. I did not really like his reasoning behind it, but it seemed reasonable enough to assume he is town.
That is why, I wanted to see him as a Sheriff (read: not Mayor, but Sheriff). He got my vote after Wiggles proposal, during the unfortunate coincidence that got VE and me on the suspicious list
But right when I went to sleep, he got out of hand and suddenly pushed for it like a madmen. That was really strange. His read on Palmar was weak and the case he made had not real arguments. Even though he says the opposite. All in all, the extreme pushing not the case itself made it look suspicious.
2) Supersoft. Looked like WBGs sidekick in the last pages. Just pushing Palmar’s lynch. They were like one in a piece. This is the first time two people in this thread combine their power so hard to achieve something. Could be scum support, could be that he was convinced or they even might be masoning.

=> At least one of them might be scum.

3) BC. How the fuck did he end up being mayor. Let’s look at his last minute votes.
3 mins to dealine: Supersoft.
2 mins to deadline: WBG
1 mins to deadline: VE
All of these votes where generated by the last minute switch to Palmar as lynch candidate. He looked as if he would just seize the opportunity to harvest some votes. Really weak opinion and taking his own responsibility out of the equation, because he wasn’t the one who pushed for Palmar.
I still don’t like his play. Will keep a close eye on him. However, since he’s mayor now, I’ll probably slow down with my accusations here. We need a strong mayor and I sincerely hope that BC is town and doesn’t let weak ass cases influence his opinion last minute.
4) VE: WEEEEEEAK OMGUS case on CC. He NEVER would have made that case, if CC didn’t mention him as a lynch candidate. That was just pure overreaction. Enough to justify a daykill? Based on a little inconsistent posting and change of opinion. If that is a justification BC and Hydra are the next vig candidates. Yay for chaos.
He then goes on to take this case to “accidentally” roleclaim. Only to afterwards say, “well actually I couldn’t daykill, but make me mayor so I can lynch CC. Look at my case.” That was really stupid. Independent on alignment.
He even continues to push for his case during the selection. Which is fine. But to defend a rather weak case which such passion is strange. Kinda similar to WBG and Supersoft. Who he joined later on in a last minute vote based on another weak case.
That is why VE is a player to watch out for.
5) Hydra Talks a billion times about why to lynch BC, makes a good case. Gets my vote, I go to sleep and he switches to Macpo? Nice. That doesn’t exactly convey trust. I don’t like it.
6) However, Macpo probably isn’t that bad of a choice. He might be a newb excusing himself, but I too get scummish vibes from the way he posts. No real reasoning behind anything, posting lists. Either Noob or Scum. This is why I probably would have supported Hydra here.

7) L: Still haven’t forgotten the fact the he asked our vig who to shoot and I don’t want anyone to forget about it. He did provide one post on that topic:
On January 15 2012 06:13 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 05:24 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 15 2012 05:16 L wrote:
On January 15 2012 05:14 Toadesstern wrote:
so VE you thought you're a dayvig and in reality you're not? Wtf is going on with this town people. Mass claims, mass fails, blues being modkilled, blue outing they vig-power and bc managed to get town discussing a whole day about pussy-masons.
The only thing that could go worse would be Palmar stepping into this thread, threatening X to do Y or else he will dayvig him and X ends up dayvigging Z.
Srsly guys wtf is wrong with you tonight

Hi there!

If you'd like to post in the thread, feel free to add content rather than remarking that things are bad. Watch what I do, okay?

VE, Are you going to shoot CC tonight?

See? Content!



awesome. Let the guy who just claimed vig now claim who he is about to shoot so that mafia does not even have to wifom about if he's going to shoot or not but only has to wifom about VE really is "smart" enough to pull a drazerk on us or not.

I mean you just asked a vig (if that's right) who he is about to shoot. I'll repeat it: You are asking a vig who he is about to shoot

wtf is going on.

Someone just made a claim to the strongest town role in the thread. He has multiple avenues to confirm his role if he's not lying.

No shit I'm going to ask him if he's going to shoot THE PERSON HE ALREADY TRIED TO SHOOT.

That is one weak explanation. This action is nowhere near town. Seriously. Why would you? If you want to confirm a role, the shot has to be posted right at the deadline or even a few minutes afterwards.
This was either puuuuure stupidity. Or actually a scumslip.
Also if you want to look http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=66
You can see a small bandwagon of possible L voters in three posts. Really Opz, Jitsu and Supersoft are indeed not on my green townie town list right now. Might be coincidence and I probably would have ignored it, if the persons joining the L train would be different.
8) Risk.Nuke. I don’t want to boil up this whole feud again, but the fact that he was a mayoral candidate might justify a further look. Since, I am probably biased, I won’t do it. Would be glad if someone else did.
9) Echelot. Still don’t like his explanation for –town. But that’s not enough to call him Scum. And I like his last posts.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2012 11:40 GMT
#1546
oh before I leave. WBG is obviously another plausible red name for me. Look up the last game he co-hosted with someone (incog i think?). Look up the first couple of posts palmar did in that game, look up what wbg said postgame.
I'm going to take a look but it's either him being incredible overconfident or he knew palmar was town..
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 15 2012 12:52 GMT
#1547
Town
supersoft
Cyber_Cheese
Toadesstern
Adam4167
Foolishness
Nisani201
EchelonTee
Jayjay54
L
Liquid`Sheth
kitaman27
BloodyC0bbler
Kurumi
p4NDemik
Meapak_Ziphh
wherebugsgo

Dont want to lynch:
VisceraEyes
Jitsu
Mr. Wiggles
~OpZ~
Ciryandor
Jackal58
hiro protagonist
GiygaS
BrownBear

Where have you been? Wouldn't mind lynching these lurkers:
igabod
zeks
evantrees
Chaosquo
Cwave
Slardar
rgTheSchworz
Scamp
glurio
rtgICEMAN
Maxella
blahz0r
GGQ

Lynch, Lynch, Lynch!:
Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito)
sandroba
risk.nuke
Munk-E
scumatlarge
Lanaia
Macpo
Mafia
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 15 2012 13:00 GMT
#1548
I fucking regret voting Protact.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 15 2012 13:07 GMT
#1549
fyi Palmar was bored Townie
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 15 2012 13:16 GMT
#1550
On January 15 2012 22:00 Kurumi wrote:
I fucking regret voting Protact.

why is that
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
January 15 2012 13:19 GMT
#1551
Nice list there Bill Murray, I find myself agreeing with most of it.

Any reason why:
1.kingjames01
9.Kenpachi
fail to earn a place?
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 15 2012 13:32 GMT
#1552
On January 15 2012 22:19 Adam4167 wrote:
Nice list there Bill Murray, I find myself agreeing with most of it.

Any reason why:
1.kingjames01
9.Kenpachi
fail to earn a place?

Which parts do you disagree with?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 15 2012 13:33 GMT
#1553
On January 15 2012 22:16 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 22:00 Kurumi wrote:
I fucking regret voting Protact.

why is that

Because my opinion on him has drastically changed and our hydra is probably for the most of time Mystlord alone.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
January 15 2012 13:38 GMT
#1554
These:
VisceraEyes
Ciryandor
BloodyC0bbler
Protactinium
L
WBG

Ive covered most of the reasons why in my last post. L id just really like to see more of before he gets a 'townie' brand, since hes got a reputation as a great scum player.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 15 2012 13:48 GMT
#1555
On January 15 2012 22:38 Adam4167 wrote:
These:
VisceraEyes
Ciryandor
BloodyC0bbler
Protactinium
L
WBG

Ive covered most of the reasons why in my last post. L id just really like to see more of before he gets a 'townie' brand, since hes got a reputation as a great scum player.


Adam, if you continue to copy all of my opinions, we might become BFFs

These players are precisely who I don't agree with either.

Your post makes sense too. Good work IMO
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
January 15 2012 13:55 GMT
#1556
Thanks.

To be honest I combed your filter for close to 45 minutes trying to figure you out. Your excessive attention towards EchelonTee had me wondering if you were trying to exaggerate something small into something huge. Nothing jumped out at me though.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 15 2012 13:57 GMT
#1557
Bill, I think you're putting too many players on the Town list.For some of them, I don't even undestand the reason why-WBG, kita and sheth too. Sheth started a Protact vote wagon, and you list protact as scum, shouldnt he be suspected?

Also we should focus on 1 or 2 lynch candidates, and pressure them hard, else we let them get away with diverting attention and starting third-party wagons.
Right now, those would be Risk.nuke and Macpo.

I encourage them to post in the next 6 hours, else they're scum in my eyes.They're from EU too, so they have no excuse.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 15 2012 14:01 GMT
#1558
On January 15 2012 22:55 Adam4167 wrote:
Thanks.

To be honest I combed your filter for close to 45 minutes trying to figure you out. Your excessive attention towards EchelonTee had me wondering if you were trying to exaggerate something small into something huge. Nothing jumped out at me though.


I didn't really have an excessive attitude against him. I just pushed for an explanation (which I still didn't really got) in order to figure him out. He didn't post at that time. Recently, he posted a little more and I said in my last post that he starts making sense and this actually might have been an error.

The only one I was really aggressive towards was BC. Which is why I voted for the hydra.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 15 2012 14:02 GMT
#1559
Jackal
up for some chatting?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
January 15 2012 14:09 GMT
#1560
On January 15 2012 23:01 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 22:55 Adam4167 wrote:
Thanks.

To be honest I combed your filter for close to 45 minutes trying to figure you out. Your excessive attention towards EchelonTee had me wondering if you were trying to exaggerate something small into something huge. Nothing jumped out at me though.


I didn't really have an excessive attitude against him. I just pushed for an explanation (which I still didn't really got) in order to figure him out. He didn't post at that time. Recently, he posted a little more and I said in my last post that he starts making sense and this actually might have been an error.

The only one I was really aggressive towards was BC. Which is why I voted for the hydra.


Yeah. I can tell you that scum EchelonTee is just a tunneling machine. Your attention towards him would have probably got you back a 3 page analysis of why you were scum, if he was actually scum.


Anyway, time for bed. Hopefully this thread hasn't ballooned another 50 pages by the time I wake up.
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