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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On November 22 2012 05:49 Keirathi wrote: I don't know "My 'success modifier' is 3." But I do know that I have a low success modifier. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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CaveJohnson
278 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:03 marvellosity wrote: As usual Drazerk is just making shit up as he goes along. http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Invoker - Enjoy | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
all that implies is that you're going to help throw the game for town, thus cementing your position as an awful player and humiliating yourself. go ahead. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:01 CaveJohnson wrote: I've seen 3s flying around I can't remember who actually said them but there have been claims You're talking about me. I never said my modifier was 3, in fact the complete opposite. I said I didn't know what my actual "modifier number" was, ie, I didn't know if it was 3, or 100, or 10000, or whatever, just that it was "low". | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:58 Dienosore wrote: If CaveJohnson is telling the truth (and it feels like he is), then I'm going to have to reevaluate my relationship map. He was catching a lot of flak from a lot of people, so now I'm going to reverse the pipes and see what comes up. It's no surprise he doesn't like marv, but I didn't predict him having any opinion on Djo. My only link between Cave and Djo was a stretch that included a pitstop through possible scum Acro and Kitaman. @ Dienosore You have a scumread on me but you are not giving your proper reasoning for this read. I cannot allow this because I'm town and I would like to be able to really discuss your read on me with so I can prove you that you are wrong. Please tell me what you find in my behavior that convinces you that I am mafia. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:01 CaveJohnson wrote: I've seen 3s flying around I can't remember who actually said them but there have been claims *sigh* That was this post and he did not say his modifier is 3. Read it. Carefully. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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CaveJohnson
278 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:04 marvellosity wrote: all that implies is that you're going to help throw the game for town, thus cementing your position as an awful player and humiliating yourself. go ahead. Stop tunneling and actually think | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
So you claim to have a role that does not fit into the Chrono Trigger lore? Why did you feel the need to claim your role? Would it not have been enough to just claim your real identity? | ||
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CaveJohnson
278 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:07 phagga wrote: So you claim to have a role that does not fit into the Chrono Trigger lore? Why did you feel the need to claim your role? Would it not have been enough to just claim your real identity? "I have my reasons" | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 22 2012 11:08 sandroba wrote: @kita I was under that impression because your filter is rather short and I fail to find anything in there that provides your reads or opinions on subjects being discussed. When you came back you posted a generic post with several names in red including mine and no reasoning and still never commented on anything. Let us work our way backwards in his filter, starting from this post, where he advocates against electing Kita because Kita has not provided his reads or opinions on subjects being discussed. On November 22 2012 10:10 sandroba wrote: I had clarity as scum, but I'm kinda torn on it right now after the marv/clarity exchange. I took a look at mario and it does look similar. Earlier he was pouncing with one-liners on weak stuff people posted and that tipped me off. And about Die, yeah I still think he is town. What makes you dissagree? The first mention of any kind of read he has (remember, we're working backwards), it's on me, he found me scum but now he doesn't know. Null. Why did he used to find me scum? Not sure, the only other mention of me is the reason he had to make the above post, that mention being this: On November 21 2012 22:25 sandroba wrote: I wont take clarity with me if I get elected. He smells funny. So we never got to know why I was scum to him, but that's okay because he's no longer sure, right? I don't think so. To me this seems like jumping on the (at the time) easy "lynch" I'd make. But then backing off because it was hard to pin me on something. Next up, we have this: On November 21 2012 22:50 sandroba wrote: I wouldn't mind syllo being leader either and if I win I will give him veto power over the people I choose. I'm fairly certain he is town at this point. I'm fairly certain he's town, is his entire read. Only when asked does he explain why. On November 21 2012 22:55 sandroba wrote: He is way less conflict enticing / questions asking as scum and just chillax and agrees with people that are the right track. This game he says he will be lazy, but isn't and is activily doing shit left and right. So yeah. This boils down to a meta read. If you take away the meta, all that is left is him saying: "He said he'd be lazy but he isn't" Meta reads aren't always bad, of course, but it should never be the crux of your argument unless someone is WAY off their town meta. On November 21 2012 18:26 sandroba wrote: I wouldn't put you as a town read, but I don't agree with toads case on you. I'll say nothing point to me one way or another so far. About deinos I agree on oats as I've said before. Not quite sure on acro still, I'd put him the same as you. GK and djo I'm slightly leaning town so far. "I don't know, you're null. Here's a list of slight townreads with no explanation." Moving further back. On November 21 2012 17:52 sandroba wrote: come'on look at the way he entered the thread. that's like as townie as it gets =P either way you have your share bit of work to do to =P. I guess I'll know by day 2? His very first strong read, yet somehow it is much earlier in the thread than the stuff covered above. This post is referring to Dieno. There's not much reasoning to it, the only being that scum wouldn't enter into the game like that. I think this is fair and not alignment indicative, but since we're pointing out all the reads I think it's only fair to point out his only strong read thus far. This is also where the reads end, because we are in the early earlygame at this point. There is some setup speculation, which makes sense given we're in a heavily themed game. My point to all of this, is this: Sand has not had any strong reads, and the reads he has had have had bad or no reasoning. He's is currently trying to get elected, and has had some backing. Why are people not demanding stronger reads from him? Especially when he is demanding them from others? Why is sand not working harder at making reads, when he is running for the election? Wanting to get elected is not alignment indicative. His reads or logic isn't alignment indicative. Why does he not look/try to look townie when he is running for the election? In my eyes, this makes him badly played scum or a third party role because a townie who is running for election would be trying harder to get elected, or at the very least to get strong reads out there. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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TheChronicler
Macedonia260 Posts
Did I miss something? Why did you claim? -------------------- On November 23 2012 02:58 Dienosore wrote: If CaveJohnson is telling the truth (and it feels like he is), then I'm going to have to reevaluate my relationship map. He was catching a lot of flak from a lot of people, so now I'm going to reverse the pipes and see what comes up. It's no surprise he doesn't like marv, but I didn't predict him having any opinion on Djo. My only link between Cave and Djo was a stretch that included a pitstop through possible scum Acro and Kitaman. Why would you explain your "plan" openly for scum to read? Unless you never intended to go through with it... | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:39 TheChronicler wrote: How would you have taken any damage anyways? That post by Kira seems nonsensical. Sorry, I just wanted to comment on why Kita's sentence made some sense. When kush shot, he said that "If marv has more HP than I do, then I will die and he will live." After kush died, if scum glanced at his role PM without reading it carefully, they would have seen that kush had 600 HP and possibly have not noticed that the ability was based on % hp rather than a flat amount. So, if marv was townie, the impression to a scum not reading kush's role PM carefully but seeing kush's claim when he shot could potentially think "Oh, damn, marv has more than 600 HP. " which could make them more careful about choosing when to shoot him. Town marv would benefit much, much more from letting the misconception ride. (Caveat: if he actually has MORE than 600 hp, then shutting down the misconception could make sense, as it makes him appear "weaker".) | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:06 Hopeless1der wrote: Keir, I won't demand an answer here, but do you know anything about your modifier itself or just that you'll inadvertently sabotage events? I won't sabotage events or anything (I presume). My PM just says that events that I'm in have a lower chance of success. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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CaveJohnson
278 Posts
On November 23 2012 03:10 marvellosity wrote: I think we're better off ignoring Cave for now. From the games I've seen him in he plays anti-town regardless of his alignment and he seems to be doing the same here. When I attack you its anti town - Cool | ||
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