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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 19:41 GMT
#1361
ebwop: This all* (not this whole)
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 21 2014 19:41 GMT
#1362
On February 22 2014 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:32 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Rayn, do you really think Balla can put all this effort in as scum? Have you seen a scum Balla game? The difference is night and day.

Yes i have seen his scum games. I have also lynched him on D1 and D2 in those games.

Filter length on LXIV and Normal Mini Mafia (scum)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] [image loading]

Filter length this game:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

It's twice as long and we're not even done with D1 yet. Dude is town.
CuteFluffyPuppy
Profile Joined February 2014
Afghanistan138 Posts
February 21 2014 19:44 GMT
#1363
On February 22 2014 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am interested Fluffer. You have read those games i assume as you brought that up. Why do you not know this?

Because my memory is full of holes. I remember things as they're brought up. You playing in the game was not something I thought about.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2014 19:44 GMT
#1364
On February 22 2014 04:41 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 22 2014 04:32 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Rayn, do you really think Balla can put all this effort in as scum? Have you seen a scum Balla game? The difference is night and day.

Yes i have seen his scum games. I have also lynched him on D1 and D2 in those games.

Based on those games I find it really hard to believe you actually think a lot of what you're saying right now about me and about suki....

This whole seems so convoluted from you rayn.

Then fucking vote for me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2014 19:48 GMT
#1365
Balla's scumread on Toad is so terrible it can't possibly come from a townie. It has nothing to do with what Toad has done in this game and how it makes him mafia.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 19:51 GMT
#1366
On February 22 2014 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Balla's scumread on Toad is so terrible it can't possibly come from a townie. It has nothing to do with what Toad has done in this game and how it makes him mafia.


ROFL dude WHAT? Please do the thing where you paraphrase people's cases and show me how that's true, pls pls pls!!!!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2014 19:51 GMT
#1367
Seriously, look at this:
Toad's only scum read seems to be me. That's pretty bad... especially considering his case on me was almost solely based on early game meta, and even though I agree that my early game could possibly be interpreted as similar to my scum games, I think he was purposefully misrepresenting both what I was saying in the early game, and the context which you can see what I said about it here:

I find it weird that someone would write a meta case on what LITTLE i had in the thread at that time, especially in comparison to what everybody else was doing in regards to me which was just "wait and see". I think it's a weak attempt to try to draw attention to someone who opened pretty weakly.

I think it's annoying that he focused so heavily on the rayn subject and responding to questioning about it. May not be his fault, but even if I was in his shoes I would have attempted to get my opinions out on somebody else as well. I wasn't around so I don't know how rapid fire this stuff was going on. As soon as it ended he wrote a case on me and then nothing else. Looking forward to his contributions in the rest of the day.

1) so he called something scummy scummy. it makes him mafia?
2) not scummy in the slightest
3) i don't even know what this is about. Toad did something and then did something else? That makes him mafia. WHAT THE FUCK?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2014 19:53 GMT
#1368
The best part is you never even say why any of this is scummy!!
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 19:56 GMT
#1369
On February 22 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Seriously, look at this:
Show nested quote +
Toad's only scum read seems to be me. That's pretty bad... especially considering his case on me was almost solely based on early game meta, and even though I agree that my early game could possibly be interpreted as similar to my scum games, I think he was purposefully misrepresenting both what I was saying in the early game, and the context which you can see what I said about it here:

I find it weird that someone would write a meta case on what LITTLE i had in the thread at that time, especially in comparison to what everybody else was doing in regards to me which was just "wait and see". I think it's a weak attempt to try to draw attention to someone who opened pretty weakly.

I think it's annoying that he focused so heavily on the rayn subject and responding to questioning about it. May not be his fault, but even if I was in his shoes I would have attempted to get my opinions out on somebody else as well. I wasn't around so I don't know how rapid fire this stuff was going on. As soon as it ended he wrote a case on me and then nothing else. Looking forward to his contributions in the rest of the day.

1) so he called something scummy scummy. it makes him mafia?
2) not scummy in the slightest
3) i don't even know what this is about. Toad did something and then did something else? That makes him mafia. WHAT THE FUCK?


1) NOPE. His entire case was based on the early game which is so non-indicative of my alignment ESPECIALLY when you purposefully misrepresent what I was saying. Why do you ignore that line? That's important.

2) How is that NOT scummy? To jump the gun on someone to act like you've done something. Tell me rayn, what has toad done AFTER this that is any sort of real contribution?

3) Toad has done 3 things this game. - Bitch to you and marv about I don't even remember what you guys were arguing about - Call me mafia by misrepresenting me -Say he will do other stuff then not do it.

Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 20:03 GMT
#1370
On February 21 2014 05:50 Toadesstern wrote:
Mmh, don't really have anything on Suki that I find that interesting to talk about. Some odd things but except for the
"I want to lynch this guy
[...here are about 20 lines of text...]
but I'd totally be fine to lynch Toad if my vote is needed!"

nothing that make me feel strongly in either direction about her.

Given that I couldn't find anything of importance while trying to look through her I'd say it's time to look at Oats instead for now and well, still Balla tomorrow and Sidesprang when and if he starts to post.


Like he promises things and NEVER does them. The only thing he followed up on in this sentence is this about me:

On February 21 2014 19:54 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm calling you a liar because you're a liar. I've got you in my bottom 5 people if that makes you happy. I wouldn't exactly call that townie and if you look through my filter you'll actually find me mentioning you doing weird shit like that a lot.
I don't have a case on you so I'm left with that, especially since I still think Balla's an awesome lynch for today.

Also no, I'm not painting myself as a luseless douchebag, if you had actually read what I posted you would have read that I said pregame that I wanted to change my style, I EXACTLY pointed out what I'm talking about in that post you're quoting and if I don't follow up feel free to lynch me based on that. I'm not going to be the usual hypno-Toad this game.


Where he doesn't even say anything about why i'm STILL a good lynch.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 20:05 GMT
#1371
Rayn pls, 3rd time, what do you think of kush?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2014 20:06 GMT
#1372
1) wrong. He saw something scummy based one meta and called you out of it. You said you could play like this as scum. That makes Toad's argument not scummy. Maybe wrong, but you can't possibly say it's scummy to call something scummy scummy. That's just retarded.

2) It's not scummy, it's pressure. I don't need to tell you what Toad has done after that, that was not a part of your case. Don't change your argument in the middle of one. That's bullshit.

3) So what? That's not what you say in the last paragraph. You don't say it's scummy and you don't explain why it's scummy. You say you need to hear more from him. That's what you say, not "scummy", but "need to hear more".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2014 20:06 GMT
#1373
On February 22 2014 05:05 Balla24 wrote:
Rayn pls, 3rd time, what do you think of kush?

town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2014 20:07 GMT
#1374
Balla you are making a new case as we speak. Why don't you answer my concerns in your original case intead of making a new one? And if you think these new points you bring up are so good why were they not in your original case?
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 20:13 GMT
#1375
On February 22 2014 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1) wrong. He saw something scummy based one meta and called you out of it. You said you could play like this as scum. That makes Toad's argument not scummy. Maybe wrong, but you can't possibly say it's scummy to call something scummy scummy. That's just retarded.

2) It's not scummy, it's pressure. I don't need to tell you what Toad has done after that, that was not a part of your case. Don't change your argument in the middle of one. That's bullshit.

3) So what? That's not what you say in the last paragraph. You don't say it's scummy and you don't explain why it's scummy. You say you need to hear more from him. That's what you say, not "scummy", but "need to hear more".


If you can't see why I think that his case is scummy for misrepresenting me and using meta on a small amount of contribution then you're not going to be convinced.

2) What are you talking about thats exactly the point. It might be pressure but it also could be fake contribution and to me it looks like fake contribution considering what I think of 1)

3) THATS EXACTLY THE POINT THOUGH. I wanted to see more contribution because all he's done at the point of my case was what I said. He hasn't done anything else now so it just proves my point that he's for some reason hesitant to talk about anything else.

On February 22 2014 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Balla you are making a new case as we speak. Why don't you answer my concerns in your original case intead of making a new one? And if you think these new points you bring up are so good why were they not in your original case?


That's just wrong. I'm not making up new points, you are making it out to be but i'm not so go somewhere pls.

##vote raynpelikoneet

Everything since you came back is so convoluted and just shitting up the thread. I think you're scum and I think you know toad is town so you want to springboard onto marv/suki/me after toad flips. I don't think your views on toad are consistent, earlier you were voting him. Literally the only reason you think toad is NOT SCUM is because you think marv/suki and I are scum which is total bullshit, especially on suki and I. I don't know your relationship with marv so I don't know how bullshit that is.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 21 2014 20:19 GMT
#1376
Balla, rayn is right. Toad's case on you that you were scum was because of your early game. You agreed that your early game looked scummy.

How is Toad scummy for finding you scummy early game?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 20:23 GMT
#1377
On February 22 2014 05:19 suki wrote:
Balla, rayn is right. Toad's case on you that you were scum was because of your early game. You agreed that your early game looked scummy.

How is Toad scummy for finding you scummy early game?


You guys are both missing the point. I'm FINE with him calling it scummy. What i'm not fine with is making a huge case on my meta based on it that comes to bad conclusions, then misrepresenting what I was saying during the early game to make it fit that case more. IT ALL READS AS FAKE, CONTRIVED, LARGE CONTRIBUTION.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2014 20:23 GMT
#1378
Example on suki:

In NMM:
Case on VE. Next ~17 posts are questioning VE or saying why other cases are not good enough.

This game:
Case on Koshi. One question to marv. No follow up. BAM! Case on Balla. Ask something about Balla (he already did answer - she's not even reading his top scumreads posts). Asks people about kush more than about Balla, who she is voting for. Then BAM! Vote on kush. No talking about kush at all and BAM! Case on Palmar. roflll.. Asks Palmar about her case, 3 minutes and BAM! Vote on Toadesstern.

wow, such townie.

Everything she does is a case -> move on to next target. She's not defending her cases, not trying to find out more about her targets, not discussing the cases with other people. Just case -> discuss someone else -> next case -> repeat.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 20:26 GMT
#1379
In NMM:

Case on zarepath -> case on bum -> back to zarepath-> unvote -> case on someone else

Wow, such commitment.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 21 2014 20:27 GMT
#1380
And you're misrepresenting what happened in between her cases here.... People talked about her case on koshi a lot, suki and I had a huge conversation until she decided i was town, the kush vote is the only thing that stands out to me although let me look at how she went from palmar->toad
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