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Current suspicions:
VIVAX420 (0): Oatsmaster, suki, sidesprang, Palmar, prplhz, Balla24, suki, Koshi Koshi (0): CuteFluffyPuppy, marvellosity, Koshi, suki, CuteFluffyPuppy marvellosity (0): raynpelikoneet, VIVAX420 CuteFluffyPuppy (0): prplhz, CuteFluffyPuppy, CuteFluffyPuppy Oatsmaster (1): Koshi, prplhz, VIVAX420 raynpelikoneet (1): Balla24, raynpelikoneet, Toadesstern, prplhz, Balla24 Palmar (0): Toadesstern, suki Toadesstern (6): Palmar, VIVAX420, marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, Palmar, Koshi, prplhz, suki, CuteFluffyPuppy, Balla24 prplhz (0): suki, raynpelikoneet Balla24 (3): suki, sidesprang, Toadesstern, suki, Oatsmaster suki (1): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet sidesprang (0): Balla24
Toadesstern is now set to be lynched! Next deadline: Deadline date: Saturday, Feb 22 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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On February 22 2014 05:26 Balla24 wrote: In NMM:
Case on zarepath -> case on bum -> back to zarepath-> unvote -> case on someone else
Wow, such commitment. Yes and in that game it was easy to see why she changes her mind on those people and she was genuinely confused especially about zarepath and bumatlarge. This game there is no confusion which would read as "i don't know who to vote for". There is a huge difference. Which you obviously don't see because you just look at posts and not the motivation behind them.
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DUDE ZAREPATH FUCKING CLAIMED A ROLE WHEN SUKI STARTED DOUBTING HERSELF AND SWAPPING VOTES?!?!?!
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On February 22 2014 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 05:26 Balla24 wrote: In NMM:
Case on zarepath -> case on bum -> back to zarepath-> unvote -> case on someone else
Wow, such commitment. Yes and in that game it was easy to see why she changes her mind on those people and she was genuinely confused especially about zarepath and bumatlarge. This game there is no confusion which would read as "i don't know who to vote for". There is a huge difference. Which you obviously don't see because you just look at posts and not the motivation behind them.
No dude, I know exactly the motivation behind those. YOU are the one who is not looking at the motivation behind her switches in this game, because I can see some here as well. I would also advise you to look at the Shadowed Mafia (NON REBOOT).
Suki can you explain why you hopped onto kush/off of kush and why you hopped off of palmar eventually?
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On February 22 2014 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: DUDE ZAREPATH FUCKING CLAIMED A ROLE WHEN SUKI STARTED DOUBTING HERSELF AND SWAPPING VOTES?!?!?!
Why are you yelling and why is this even a point? This makes no sense considering i'm not arguing AT ALL that she doesn't have reasoning for her swaps, i'm arguing that she does have reasoning always and she does here too and that's what your missing.
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I don't read games i have not played in because i don't know what happened at the time in context and i don't wanna read the whole game because it does not help and it would take a day to get a decent grasp of all the important events in the game.
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Why don't you explain why suki switches her votes and why does he not talk about her lynch targets at all if you know that so well?
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I hopped on kush because I trusted your read. Hopped off cuz I decided I liked him. Didn't really read into him or anything between the two it was just a gut feeling thing.
I hopped off palmar because I was retardedly frustrated at the way he was treating me but figured that marv and other people having a town read on him was important, and that his flippant way of dealing with me felt town as well. As I recall VE treated me the same way in NMM where I kept on pressuring him and he was like 'I am going to ignore you'.
This game makes me rage so much some times.
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All you have to do is look at her swaps and the context surrounding them, it takes maybe 10 minutes to understand.
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I actually don't have good scum reads this game rayn. Every time I think I've found something I make a case, and people yell at me for how bad it is.
I've been toying with you being scum for the past hour, particularly after you come into the thread still spouting how I'm scum, however I have come to the conclusion that you're probably town. 1) you're retarded active , 2) you were trying to figure out toad rather than just straight up call him scum , 3) your points against me seem ok now that you've elaborated on your feelings.
I have a pretty good feeling about toad. The backtracking case, followed by his complete defensive shutdown, followed by his shit case on Balla that I just tried to read again and don't even know what he's saying, followed by his disappearance from the thread.
I actually don't really know who else to call scum at the moment, but Day 1 has always been my weakest day.
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So you call people who call you scum mafia. Also people you don't like. And people who are cased by your scumreads.
check.
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On February 22 2014 04:32 Balla24 wrote: @Palmar, how come you switched off kush because "scummy people are voting" for him yet you aren't switching off toad?
I'm not falling for your tricks trickster
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Do you actually have any good reasons to call someone mafia? Like not "he called me scum" or "i liked my scumread's case"?
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rayn just shut up. that's not how I've been playing this game and is a gross misrepresentation of my cases.
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On February 22 2014 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why don't you explain why suki switches her votes and why does he not talk about her lynch targets at all if you know that so well?
I'm sorry but you could have just look yourself. It's like you're purposefully trying not to see. Look at the koshi case for example... there was plenty of stuff DIRECTLY after her case that could have significantly altered her view.
Things like this:
On February 21 2014 00:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2014 23:44 suki wrote:
1) Koshi is misrepresenting me. He says I dropped my scumread. When did I do that? He's criticizing me for not hard pushing an early read and participating in the active discussion.
2) He's blowing off the fact that he asked me twice to look at Balla and then when I asked him if he had reasons he just backed down and that he was making things up.
About this part: 1) I am not saying that you dropped your scumread. I am saying that you were quite positve on a scumread on Balla. But that instead of persuing this scumread you went and talked about rayn his plan being pro-town. On which you were called out on and then you defended yourself. 2) Yes, I did ask you to look at Balla because you were not being serious till then and I wanted to see if you could be serious. You blew me off the first time responding that Balla was only scum if he didn't vote prplhz. Because there still wasn't a serious answer I pressed further and I pretended I had a legit reason to why Balla was scum. After I said this you played serious and you did look into Balla and you found a reason to why he was scum and voted him without stating this reason. Then I said I was bluffing and didn't have a reason to why Balla is scum. To which you replied that I should vote Balla but again you didn't give a reason. Then I asked about this reason and you gave it to me. At this point I was no longer interested in Balla but I was interested in you. However, I didn't vote both because I was sleepy. In conclusion. I don't see why I am scummy for that paragraph in your case btw. It looked quite obvious to what was going on.
Marv, Palmar and you also all commented, then I commented and the consensus between everyone was that this case is no good and it doesn't make koshi scum, in fact some of the stuff makes koshi more townie.
On her case on me:
There was a whole conversation between me and suki that easily can affect what she thinks about me, multiple conversations even. I also justified what her case was about and that could have also had an effect. THERES SO MUCH between there and when she switched to kush.
Things like these exchanges:
On February 21 2014 06:12 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 06:07 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 05:55 Balla24 wrote:On February 21 2014 05:51 suki wrote: Since when and why are Kush and CuteFluffyPuppy your scum reads, and why does them not being here mean anything? You want me to be pressuring people, those are the people i've tried to pressure yet they aren't here. Rayn JUST asked me like an hour ago and the lead up to that I already explained. Can you please elaborate on the koshi case? If not then at least comment on him now, has he done anything that is not consistent with your read? Koshi is leaning more town for me now. I went back and read the thread, particularly the points where rayn and company were talking about him, and decided that he is more likely to be town. Do you agree with what I said about how Koshi is more likely to do a lot of the stuff you said he was doing as town based on our last 2 games? Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 06:08 suki wrote:On February 21 2014 05:55 Balla24 wrote:On February 21 2014 05:51 suki wrote: Since when and why are Kush and CuteFluffyPuppy your scum reads, and why does them not being here mean anything? You want me to be pressuring people, those are the people i've tried to pressure yet they aren't here. Rayn JUST asked me like an hour ago and the lead up to that I already explained. Can you please elaborate on the koshi case? If not then at least comment on him now, has he done anything that is not consistent with your read? Balla let's pretend they are here right now. What are you going to ask Kush and CuteFluffyPuppy when they get in the thread? The good news is, once you've done this, you don't even have to post again when they come back because they'll see your question and respond! Suki I already did this -_- hence why you don't find anything else!!!!!
She recently justified the kush and palmar stuff although I'm not sure how much I buy the kush one. The palmar one I can see from her interactions with him this morning.
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jow rayn. I am not totally following thread atm but tell me this: Did scum marv already driven a lynch this hard as scum? Put his total weight behind the lynch? Own the lynch? I don't think he does that as scum.
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On February 22 2014 05:39 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 04:32 Balla24 wrote: @Palmar, how come you switched off kush because "scummy people are voting" for him yet you aren't switching off toad? I'm not falling for your tricks trickster
Well, do you still think suki and I are scum? What about prplhz? The people who were voting kush.
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On February 22 2014 05:42 Koshi wrote: jow rayn. I am not totally following thread atm but tell me this: Did scum marv already driven a lynch this hard as scum? Put his total weight behind the lynch? Own the lynch? I don't think he does that as scum. Totally on Toad.
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rayn what is my alignment?
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rayn my brother we avenge towntoad death with marv blood tomorrow.
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