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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 17 2012 06:33 GMT
#1281
caller is 100% scum if you don't vote him you fell my wrath
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 17 2012 06:46 GMT
#1282
So let me put this in clear words so all jubjubs can see it. Palmar basically hammered kurumi who was mafia so there was no way he was scum and caller shot him very early into the day. Town would never do this. He is scum and we need to kill him.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 17 2012 06:54 GMT
#1283
Sandroba do you really think that scum would have a dayvig tho?

I want to call him really bad town. If the town agree's to vote him tho im all for it.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 17 2012 09:18 GMT
#1284
On March 17 2012 15:54 jaybrundage wrote:
Sandroba do you really think that scum would have a dayvig tho?

I want to call him really bad town. If the town agree's to vote him tho im all for it.

LOL

"i don't think he's scum but if other people want to lynch him then that's cool!"
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#1285
Way to paraphrase. I can see him being scum.

Also if your against the Caller lynch why did you just send me a PM telling me to vote Caller?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#1286
On March 17 2012 18:41 jaybrundage wrote:
Way to paraphrase. I can see him being scum.

Also if your against the Caller lynch why did you just send me a PM telling me to vote Caller?

dude i have voted caller before you even send this post plz try to be aware T_T
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
March 17 2012 12:49 GMT
#1287
Good catch Curu.

I would make sense in a number of ways. The ratio of the setup gives a large town advantage in numbers. It would make sense that our blue mechanics would have a negative side as well, like the dream flower or the parity DT.

I've never played with Caller before, but at least this game, he's more about inciting chaos then he is about fighting this out. It makes sense that something tipped Caller's hand; maybe Palmar revealed to Caller that he was a DT and he took the opportunity to shoot.

Little to no reasoning for the shot, chaotic posting behavior...yeah.

##vote Caller
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 17 2012 14:05 GMT
#1288
I'm going to call bullshit on the rolefishing and Vote: Caller as well.

On March 15 2012 05:54 Caller wrote:
i did in fact pm sentinel. you have a problem with that?

his response just made no sense to me.


Compare this to:

I had a read on Sentinel as a traitor since there was that whole mixup about a traitor which seem to completely perplex him. So I offer to go pretend that I caught Sentinel as traitor on a rolecheck. I leave my self insurance in the form of a PM with Palmar where he agreed with me to go ahead and see if we could fish the traitor. As was pretty much expected, Sentinel runs around screaming that I had rolechecked him as traitor except that he wasn't traitor or something blah blah blah. Which, if he had been paying attention, is totally impossible, given that a) traitors don’t show up on rolechecks and b) I just shot somebody, and unless there’s some new meta where vigis also have dt powers, I’m not going to have a bloody check. This op basically does jack shit.


The "mixup" on my side was just me believing there was a traitor in the game. If I were traitor I don't think I'd be proudly proclaming it. Also, note that here he says he planned this to happen ("as was pretty much expected") compared to "his response made no sense to me".

Time to cast my vote and go get drunk.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 17 2012 14:06 GMT
#1289
EBWOP ##Vote: Caller
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 17 2012 15:58 GMT
#1290
I masoned wiggles too, (although that's already in the spreadsheet).

Who did Palmar roleclaim to?

I thought that caller was just saying he would shoot Palmar to discourage scum from shooting at either of them during the night. I do not see why Caller would have shot Palmar if caller is town.

Shooting a player at that time is anti-town (especially if that player has an investigate ability that they might want to share).
Shooting a Player that was masoned by a flipped mafia player is horrendous since that very fact suggests they are town.
Shooting the player that hammered the sucessful scum lynch that was almost a no-lynch is horrendous since that fact suggests that they are town.
Shooting a player without first explaining why to town suggests that you can't explain why.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 17 2012 16:37 GMT
#1291
Caller's earlier behaviour also looks pretty bad.

On day1 made a case against Jackal but did not actively push it.
Instead he argued with visceraeyes, making pretty baseless accusations against him:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 13 2012 05:27 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
So Caller, you're saying that my strategy as scum is to wait until town is getting ready to lynch my scumbuddy Jackal and then come in and defend him. When he's about to get lynched. That's your "working theory".

I tried that once, and it was in Hammer Mafia. I'll NEVER do that again. I'll admit that I could be wrong about Jackal - but I would NEVER do that as scum again Caller. Ever. You're an idiot if you "think" that's what's going on here.

The fact that you "think" that's what's happening here only solidifies what I already suspected.

Everyone needs to be voting for Caller.

Look at this scumslip. He already knows what Jackal is. I can think of one reason why.

I specifically said that no matter if Jackal is town or mafia that you're setting yourself up to reap the reward of knowing ahead of time what Jackal is. As a result. I'm trying to stop you.

You're saying that you had previously defended a mafiaso and you're never doing it again. The trouble here is, you're defending Jackal. So you therefore seem to know that Jackal is NOT mafia, and since you know his role DAY 1, this leads me to conclude that you're...

Its quite simple: we lynch Jackal. If he comes up mafia, hurray. If he's not mafia, VisceraEyes must be mafia.

One last thing: I don't use "think" and "theory." More false doubt... more mafia tactics.

He told us that we should lynch VE if Jackal flips town. Do you think he had a reason to this this as town? Do you think his point is credible?
+ Show Spoiler +
+5 science collaboration points to those who answered "no"


He decides to kill Palmar but never tells the thread why.
On March 13 2012 23:18 Caller wrote:
whatever. ve i'm laying off you for now, i trust palmar's judgement. keep tunnel visioning and chasing red herrings though, although i personally suggest you look at the people i've been accusing (cough jackal and drh) regardless of how shitty you may think my reasoning is.

From this it should be safe to infer that caller thought that Palmar was town.

But Caller has a change of heart because of .....?
Maybe he was mad:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 14 2012 00:12 Caller wrote:
if i die tonight palmar is mafia

just sayin'


On March 14 2012 01:00 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 00:52 Palmar wrote:
lol caller so mad cause owned.

dick


Maybe he knew that Kurumi his team mate Kurumi was in trouble and wanted to use Palmar's indefference to the Kurumi lynch as an excuse to kill him:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 15 2012 00:15 Caller wrote:
You guys are having fun, so I'm going to focus on the real issues.

Kurumi, you are an insult to Poles everywhere. The only thing you had to contribute in the past 24 hours was how I was not actually Polish. How dare you.

More importantly than that, you pull this random trolling shit every time I've played with you for the last like 4 games. And you've also been mafia for those 4 games. I don't even need to cite evidence-people should perfectly understand how terribly you've been playing. If you have anything to say for yourself you should say it. Damn scum.

tldr FOS KURUMI


Palmar comments on Kurumi
On March 15 2012 21:51 Palmar wrote:
probably not going to flip scum though.

he's just bleurgh



What ever the reason, he did not feel like it was worth telling the thread.
On March 15 2012 21:54 Caller wrote:
That's okay Palmar, go ahead, I was going to shoot you tomorrow anyways. This'll save me the trouble of having to organize this case properly.


We then received more information that made Palmar look town (the PM detective and hammer) and caller shoots palmar as the very start of the day.

If Caller had waited longer, it would have become far more difficult for him to shoot Palmar. Yesterday he decided to shoot Palmar he committed himself to it in the thread. So if he wanted to use his dayshot on Palmar he would have to do it immediately and hope to get away with it.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 17 2012 16:41 GMT
#1292
Well, Caller looks like the best choice atm...
Voting now.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 17 2012 17:19 GMT
#1293
caller's anger against palmar seems like something he just made up so he could shoot him
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 17 2012 18:47 GMT
#1294
Caller has looked like scum since Day 1. I'm second guessing myself because of the dayvig thing but I guess I shouldn't go back on my policy of lynching those who look like scum regardless. I agree with prplhz actually.

It seems like a sure thing at this point, so, who's next? I vote jaybrundage
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 17 2012 18:48 GMT
#1295
On March 18 2012 01:41 Abenson wrote:
Well, Caller looks like the best choice atm...
Voting now.

Isn't this your first post in like days
RIP Aaliyah
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 17 2012 18:52 GMT
#1296
I really really doubt mafia would have an infinite day vig, its just way too overpowered. Its much more likely that Caller is just bad.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 17 2012 18:53 GMT
#1297
omg a caller wagon?
Ive been onto him since his very first post
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 17 2012 19:03 GMT
#1298
On March 18 2012 03:53 Bill Murray wrote:
omg a caller wagon?
Ive been onto him since his very first post

i've always wondered how it is to play mafia with the great bill murray

i'm still wondering.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 17 2012 19:12 GMT
#1299
"Great"
RIP Aaliyah
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 17 2012 19:21 GMT
#1300
ooohhh
that curu case is CRUNCHY
caller, i knew you were scum

since you're dead, spare us the suspense
you're red, aren't you?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
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