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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 17 2012 19:31 GMT
#1301
Also the spreadsheet is missing a load of stuff. Anyone who hasn't claimed their PMs, or who has someone who is PMing them that hasn't been filled in needs to claim now.
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
March 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#1302
On March 18 2012 03:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Caller has looked like scum since Day 1. I'm second guessing myself because of the dayvig thing but I guess I shouldn't go back on my policy of lynching those who look like scum regardless. I agree with prplhz actually.

It seems like a sure thing at this point, so, who's next? I vote jaybrundage


For two players who always seem to be at odds, are reads are fairly similar.

I think Caller is the right choice, at least for now. Katina still raises hairs on the back of my neck, and I think she should be dying sometime soon. I wouldn't be 100% adverse to a Jaydrundage kill either. While he did call out Kurumi (scum confirmed) and Katina (who I have this feeling is also scum, just look at that filter), I have this impression that he started a train he couldn't easily jump off of by just soft-bussing his team-mate. His initial argument was weaksause, and when enough people got on, it would have been way too obvious if he just unvoted it to force a no-lynch.

Thoughts?
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 17 2012 21:40 GMT
#1303
Caller is good lynch I'll switch my vote tomeroq happy at Patricks day
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
March 17 2012 23:14 GMT
#1304
On March 18 2012 06:40 Mattchew wrote:
Caller is good lynch I'll switch my vote tomeroq happy at Patricks day

Yaaaaaaaaaaa

caller doesn't rly give any good leads after this b/c of his chaotic posting though -.- his connections to people seem to have swapped at his random whim. I guess VE had a correct read way back when. Should look at palmar 's reads, cuz, you know he's flipped town.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 17 2012 23:21 GMT
#1305
##vote caller
although it seems he is dead already.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 17 2012 23:31 GMT
#1306
One thing Caller didn't do is buddy up to anyone, so the rest of the team isn't apparent except maybe who unquestioningly accepted him as town Day 1. In PMing with VisceraEyes I pointed out to him that it seems odd that everyone was just taking Caller being town for granted and that was before his dayvig shot too.
RIP Aaliyah
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 18 2012 00:11 GMT
#1307
I dont even know why people think im scum >.<
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 18 2012 03:44 GMT
#1308
On March 18 2012 09:11 jaybrundage wrote:
I dont even know why people think im scum >.<

Because you do and say scummy things. :p

Did everyone (including me) die?
you gotta dance
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 18 2012 03:54 GMT
#1309
no, i think everyone is out getting drunk
RIP Aaliyah
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
March 18 2012 04:17 GMT
#1310
Caller has shot two townies.... Sigh. So either...

1. Mafia
2. Mafia
or
3. Retarded

If the third then retardation like that should be killed.

##Vote Caller
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 18 2012 13:41 GMT
#1311
Since the lynch is pretty much done with, maybe we should continue to post?

On March 17 2012 15:18 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I really love all the talk about different lurkers, but while you're arguing that, you should also place scrutiny into this group:

Mr. Wiggles
Deconduo
Caller
Curu
Dr. H
prplhz
Bill Murray

Roughly a quarter of the game is scum, and considering balance, at least one, if not two of the people on this list are scum. I know I'm town, and I'm pretty certain Decon is town, so that leaves 5 other names. containing something like one or two scum. I'm going to read over these people's filters, and see what I can find. I suggest you do the same thing. If we decide not to lynch into this list today, that's fine, as it's likely that people from this list will continue dying night by night, and as they do, the list will become smaller, and thus pressure on the scum in it should increase, if you keep it in mind. Just don't enter the endgame with only one person from here alive, and not consider the possibility that they're a flaming red mafioso.

Wiggles, how did you come up with this list?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
March 18 2012 14:55 GMT
#1312
On March 18 2012 04:31 deconduo wrote:
Also the spreadsheet is missing a load of stuff. Anyone who hasn't claimed their PMs, or who has someone who is PMing them that hasn't been filled in needs to claim now.


Just VE.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 18 2012 16:53 GMT
#1313
On March 18 2012 12:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
no, i think everyone is out getting drunk


Amen to that.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 18 2012 18:06 GMT
#1314
I think the fact that Caller got called out directly after shooting and then didn't post anything afterwards is pretty telling. It looks like he's given up on the game. Reading through his filter, he hasn't really interacted much with other players, besides attacking VE and Jackal. Then he pushes for Kurumi after it was obvious he was scum, and makes a post calling Dr. H scum.
On March 18 2012 22:41 layabout wrote:
Since the lynch is pretty much done with, maybe we should continue to post?

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 15:18 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I really love all the talk about different lurkers, but while you're arguing that, you should also place scrutiny into this group:

Mr. Wiggles
Deconduo
Caller
Curu
Dr. H
prplhz
Bill Murray

Roughly a quarter of the game is scum, and considering balance, at least one, if not two of the people on this list are scum. I know I'm town, and I'm pretty certain Decon is town, so that leaves 5 other names. containing something like one or two scum. I'm going to read over these people's filters, and see what I can find. I suggest you do the same thing. If we decide not to lynch into this list today, that's fine, as it's likely that people from this list will continue dying night by night, and as they do, the list will become smaller, and thus pressure on the scum in it should increase, if you keep it in mind. Just don't enter the endgame with only one person from here alive, and not consider the possibility that they're a flaming red mafioso.

Wiggles, how did you come up with this list?

Basically, it's a list of players who would be considered veterans, and if the game was balanced for players, at least one would figure on the scum team as their 'big' player. If the game was completely RNG'ed, the list isn't very useful. Still, as the game goes on, and people keep dying on this list and flipping town, look at the ones who are left, since it's more likely they're scum. So, by posting this, I'm telling mafia they can either shoot into vets and have their own member stick out more, or they can leave them be and let them (hopefully) kill the scum with analysis.
you gotta dance
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
March 18 2012 18:24 GMT
#1315
@wiggles i wouldn't initially say anything against ur list (except for the fact that it is a list and lists suxxors), but i don't like how u presume that decon is town. he's leaning on the scummy side of things for me; is there any reason that he looks better than the other people on your list?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 18 2012 18:56 GMT
#1316
On March 19 2012 03:24 EchelonTee wrote:
@wiggles i wouldn't initially say anything against ur list (except for the fact that it is a list and lists suxxors), but i don't like how u presume that decon is town. he's leaning on the scummy side of things for me; is there any reason that he looks better than the other people on your list?

We've talked quite a bit in PMs, and based on that, I have a town-read. As well, he claimed his role to me of his own volition, and confirmed it. Then after talking, he used last night on Palmar to check if he was actually masoned to Mattchew and Curu. If Caller flips scum, we have confirmation that scum have other roles, but I don't think they'd have Decon check Palmar just to shoot him right after. Also, I don't see why they'd claim and make their info public.
you gotta dance
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 18 2012 20:38 GMT
#1317
Here's a list for everyone to look at

Town:
Mattchew - I am a townie
prplhz - Palmar and my own read based off PM's
Curu - pushed the hardest for the kurumi lynch and made sure it happened. said he was sheeping Palmar (which is a good thing when palmar is town)
EchelonTee - I am in PM's this is my own read
Deconduo - His role is of much much less use for scum, and has no use posting it in the thread like he did. Everything he has done does not make sense as scum.
Sandroba - Palmar had any early read on rgTS as town. I read town sandroba off his posting thus far
Bill Murray - I know I have said otherwise in the past, but there has been a change in my beliefs.

What that leaves us with

I lean town on -

Katina - IMO she is town. I just think she is not playing that well. I do not think she should be lynched before any of the other names on the list.

Mr. Wiggles - I am leaning town.

This is who we should be lynching (from the bottom up kinda)

Jitsu - TBH I just have no idea. I read his filter and theres nothing that screams town or scum, which could be scummy?

DoctorHelvetica - PM'd Kurumi, so that doesn't read of scum. However there are plausible situations for this as well (his convo is super short which would be super easy to make up). I think he has done a good job of being active but I am wary that he is over compensating.

[UoN]Sentinel - Lurks a points a finger at me curu and ET, all of which i have as town. The only thing throwing me off is this whole traitor PMs thing.

layabout - A lot of chainsaw defense on the Kurumi lynch, looks like he was forced into it.
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On March 16 2012 03:55 layabout wrote:
I actually used the preview button before posting that
EBWOP:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 03:17 layabout wrote:
jitsu, since he replaced into storm on day 3 or 4, storm is perhaps not the best example of is town play.

Instead look at games like this and this

or his other games here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=mafia&t=c&f=-1&u=Kurumi&gb=date&d=&p=2

If you want to get an idea of his typical day 1 town play. You might want to take a look at his scum play too, and realise that this doesn't look much like it.


Is it okay to vote like this?
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 23:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Moving the game along, mostly because I don't have anything better to say about anyone else.

I'll post some stuff tonight, closer to deadline.

##Vote: Kurumi


Speaking of dumb votes,
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 23:23 Mattchew wrote:
##vote kurumi

I wonder why this is....

Oh! this is why:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 03:09 Mattchew wrote:
Hi guys. We are lynching Kurumi today because it is the right thing to do.

His "role" or defense of Jackal or w.e it is, is completely stupid. Him and Jackal have both caused chaos and shitfits for the past 3 days in the thread, and we need to move on past this. There is an extremely high chance of flipping scum and he is playing really badly.

Key points:
Defending Jackal is stupid
Kurumi is playing bad
Kurumi and jackal have "caused chaos"

nothing of note


Attention! We are supposed to vote in this thread as well as in the voting thread!

Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 12:01 Protactinium wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [snip] +
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Day 2


Liquid`Sheth has been liquified.
VisceraEyes has been jubjubified.




It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to cast your votes. Day 2 ends at 8PM PDT on Thursday. (03:00 GMT (+00:00) your time).


Please vote both in this thread and in the voting thread. Only votes that are in the voting thread will count, however.


+ Show Spoiler +
On March 16 2012 04:37 layabout wrote:
we need an alternate candidate soon or we will be stuck choosing between Kurumi and a no-lynch

I propose prp, sent or drH



Abenson - Lurks and lurks and lurks and lurks, however i think Kurumi PM'd DrH about killing him so that may be his saving grace


jaybrundage - My vote tomorrow, I see nothing that helps town in his play. Tries to take credit for a lynch he barely pushed and gets all upset cause no one wants to call him town.

Caller - scum to be lynched today I believe
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 18 2012 20:41 GMT
#1318
Also, one more thing to think about. If kurumi was the traitor and his pokemon thing worked he could have been picked up by the scum team. Sentinel also could be the traitor and have gotten picked up by Caller (if caller flips scum)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 18 2012 21:04 GMT
#1319
I dont like how smoothly this lynch is going. Scum either bussed caller. Or he's just bad town : /
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 18 2012 21:14 GMT
#1320
It's a death wish for scum to defend Caller at this point, especially given how likely it is many of them were trying for a Kurumi no lynch.

Interesting to note that both layabout and Katina refused to vote for Kurumi and only jumped on this Caller lynch when it was 100% certain he was going to die.
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