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On June 17 2011 00:04 Powda wrote:
As a father, I am unable to watch Destiny's stream anymore due to his uncontrollable and explicit language problem. I am not condoning the use of profanity, just offended by the lack of common respect for a public stream from this man.
In an hour long special put on by Steven himself, he explains why he believes rhetoric should not define how a person feels or reacts. Although quite convincing at times, Steven was recorded during this special saying, "I would not repeat the word rape in a police station" since he might offend someone who experienced such an act....Yet defining all logic, of which Steven is blessed with reservoirs of (sarcasm alert!), he will spout out cascades of racial, religious and denuded profanity on the fly, to a stream of thousands, with no regrets. This mindless prattle has offended so many of his viewers that forums, videos and even rumored DDoS attacks have occurred in response to this rhetoric and complete lack of heed to his viewers. Although I do not justify such responses from his viewers, I am in amazement to how confused and almost ignorant Steven reacts to all of it.
Let us know when you change your mind Steven, we'll be in the Idra stream where even the rage master himself recognizes the connection between his viewers and his success.
If you're not trolling, you're simply stupid. I feel sad for your children, that they'd have to be raised by a father so concerned with language and so clueless about ideas or messages.
I said I wouldn't enter a police station saying "rape rape rape" because I am respectful of other people when I'm in their presence, much the same way I would censor my language when I'm around certain people if I know certain words offend them. That's just common human decency.
That being said, this is MY stream. Unlike the police station, I don't force you to watch me, you can simply turn me off.
Regardless, I'm sorry that you're so intellectually shallow that you're willing to judge the content of a message based on the words used to deliver it. I'm sorry that in your world, you'd rather someone convey the same message (You're an asshole!) using different words (You're a jerk!) and you think that it makes the latter acceptable over the former.
Grow up, man. Or at least, please, keep your children away from mine.
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On June 16 2011 14:18 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 14:13 Soulish wrote:On June 16 2011 13:14 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 16 2011 12:43 hiyo_bye wrote:Alright, listening to Steve talk for like an hour about his using words like the n-word or the slur for gay people, I was curious about what everyone else thought, so: Poll: Should Destiny Stop using these "offensive" words?No; and I watch his stream (146) 69% Yes; and I watch his stream (24) 11% I really don't care either way (21) 10% No; and I don't watch his stream much/at all (18) 8% Yes; and I don't watch his stream much/at all (3) 1% 212 total votes Your vote: Should Destiny Stop using these "offensive" words? (Vote): Yes; and I watch his stream
(Vote): No; and I watch his stream
(Vote): Yes; and I don't watch his stream much/at all
(Vote): No; and I don't watch his stream much/at all
(Vote): I really don't care either way
He's not going to stop using them because of a poll or people don't like it. Mute him if you want. you know right now its overwhelmingly in the negative right? Consider when you saw the poll and when I saw the poll. Also consider that my statement stands regardless?
It was always overwhelming negative.
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im 12 and every time destiny says nigger or faggot i say it in school and to my parents. destiny has gotten me in trouble many times plz stop using foul language
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too laggy, too much N word using, shit stream.
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I must say that I can't bring anything new to this debate, but I feel like I have to thank you (Steven) for taking this debate.
The fact of the matter is, that here in Denmark, people aren't that offended of what some would call "foul language". That's why I experience a love/hate thing when American shows are aired here. Everything is bleeped out. It's just so fucking annoying.
Take for instance the stand-up slash internet clip-show Tosh.0. The only thing you "hear" at times is a wide silenced gap, followed by a crowd cracking up. Clearly the audience should act as a representative model for how it would be accepted by the viewers - and I haven't heard of a shooting being abruptly cut short because of someone who couldn't follow the context.
In fact, they have a bit called "is it racist", in which almost everything they discuss/show is in fact very racist. But the show is still aired, and I bet it's because offended persons can go find something else to enjoy - just like with your channel.
Again, I'm not in it for the discussion atm, I just wanted to say that I admire you for taking your time trying to open minds.
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On June 17 2011 03:13 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 00:04 Powda wrote:
As a father, I am unable to watch Destiny's stream anymore due to his uncontrollable and explicit language problem. I am not condoning the use of profanity, just offended by the lack of common respect for a public stream from this man.
In an hour long special put on by Steven himself, he explains why he believes rhetoric should not define how a person feels or reacts. Although quite convincing at times, Steven was recorded during this special saying, "I would not repeat the word rape in a police station" since he might offend someone who experienced such an act....Yet defining all logic, of which Steven is blessed with reservoirs of (sarcasm alert!), he will spout out cascades of racial, religious and denuded profanity on the fly, to a stream of thousands, with no regrets. This mindless prattle has offended so many of his viewers that forums, videos and even rumored DDoS attacks have occurred in response to this rhetoric and complete lack of heed to his viewers. Although I do not justify such responses from his viewers, I am in amazement to how confused and almost ignorant Steven reacts to all of it.
Let us know when you change your mind Steven, we'll be in the Idra stream where even the rage master himself recognizes the connection between his viewers and his success. If you're not trolling, you're simply stupid. I feel sad for your children, that they'd have to be raised by a father so concerned with language and so clueless about ideas or messages. I said I wouldn't enter a police station saying "rape rape rape" because I am respectful of other people when I'm in their presence, much the same way I would censor my language when I'm around certain people if I know certain words offend them. That's just common human decency. That being said, this is MY stream. Unlike the police station, I don't force you to watch me, you can simply turn me off. Regardless, I'm sorry that you're so intellectually shallow that you're willing to judge the content of a message based on the words used to deliver it. I'm sorry that in your world, you'd rather someone convey the same message (You're an asshole!) using different words (You're a jerk!) and you think that it makes the latter acceptable over the former. Grow up, man. Or at least, please, keep your children away from mine.
Never change Destiny, no matter how many viewers you get.
Also reminds me of that Greenday fan letter, pretty much the same lol.
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As LCD Soundsystem put it in "I Can Change":
"Never change, never change, never change.
This is why I fell in love."
Keep at it, Destiny.
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On June 17 2011 03:13 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 00:04 Powda wrote:
As a father, I am unable to watch Destiny's stream anymore due to his uncontrollable and explicit language problem. I am not condoning the use of profanity, just offended by the lack of common respect for a public stream from this man.
In an hour long special put on by Steven himself, he explains why he believes rhetoric should not define how a person feels or reacts. Although quite convincing at times, Steven was recorded during this special saying, "I would not repeat the word rape in a police station" since he might offend someone who experienced such an act....Yet defining all logic, of which Steven is blessed with reservoirs of (sarcasm alert!), he will spout out cascades of racial, religious and denuded profanity on the fly, to a stream of thousands, with no regrets. This mindless prattle has offended so many of his viewers that forums, videos and even rumored DDoS attacks have occurred in response to this rhetoric and complete lack of heed to his viewers. Although I do not justify such responses from his viewers, I am in amazement to how confused and almost ignorant Steven reacts to all of it.
Let us know when you change your mind Steven, we'll be in the Idra stream where even the rage master himself recognizes the connection between his viewers and his success. If you're not trolling, you're simply stupid. I feel sad for your children, that they'd have to be raised by a father so concerned with language and so clueless about ideas or messages. I said I wouldn't enter a police station saying "rape rape rape" because I am respectful of other people when I'm in their presence, much the same way I would censor my language when I'm around certain people if I know certain words offend them. That's just common human decency. That being said, this is MY stream. Unlike the police station, I don't force you to watch me, you can simply turn me off. Regardless, I'm sorry that you're so intellectually shallow that you're willing to judge the content of a message based on the words used to deliver it. I'm sorry that in your world, you'd rather someone convey the same message (You're an asshole!) using different words (You're a jerk!) and you think that it makes the latter acceptable over the former. Grow up, man. Or at least, please, keep your children away from mine.
I also deter my children from pornagrophy, narcotics or dressing too scantily clad at the beach. Sometimes I even set curfews for them =O !!
It's fascinating how foreign my world is to you.
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powda obviously missed the entire point. The message is more important then the format. Some people cannot understand this sadly.
When people are forced to hear him, SB2 said he would present the message in a more paletable format, however on his own stream he has the freedom to present his message however he chooses and others have the freedom not to watch if they so choose. If they don't, then fine.
I'm curious as to how you define okay scantily clad at the beach vs too scantily clad at the beach.
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On June 17 2011 00:04 Powda wrote:
As a father, I am unable to watch Destiny's stream anymore due to his uncontrollable and explicit language problem. I am not condoning the use of profanity, just offended by the lack of common respect for a public stream from this man.
In an hour long special put on by Steven himself, he explains why he believes rhetoric should not define how a person feels or reacts. Although quite convincing at times, Steven was recorded during this special saying, "I would not repeat the word rape in a police station" since he might offend someone who experienced such an act....Yet defining all logic, of which Steven is blessed with reservoirs of (sarcasm alert!), he will spout out cascades of racial, religious and denuded profanity on the fly, to a stream of thousands, with no regrets. This mindless prattle has offended so many of his viewers that forums, videos and even rumored DDoS attacks have occurred in response to this rhetoric and complete lack of heed to his viewers. Although I do not justify such responses from his viewers, I am in amazement to how confused and almost ignorant Steven reacts to all of it.
Let us know when you change your mind Steven, we'll be in the Idra stream where even the rage master himself recognizes the connection between his viewers and his success.
ummm you can always wear a headset...gg
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This was my first view on his stream! It's awesome! Good job entertaining me. Ta Daaaaaa
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Stream has been epic tonight
Multiple appearances by none other than Deezer, and Combatex.
Catz trolling. Spanishiwa. Most entertaining stream, easily.
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I don't know why u're saying CombatEx is so bad, when he clearly outplayed you.
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On June 17 2011 17:38 h34D_hUnT3R wrote:
I don't know why u're saying CombatEx is so bad, when he clearly outplayed you.
Thing is, Steven could outplay HIM if he just would try really hard 
He is better than Combat.
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On June 17 2011 16:11 dogabutila wrote:
powda obviously missed the entire point. The message is more important then the format. Some people cannot understand this sadly.
When people are forced to hear him, SB2 said he would present the message in a more paletable format, however on his own stream he has the freedom to present his message however he chooses and others have the freedom not to watch if they so choose. If they don't, then fine.
I'm curious as to how you define okay scantily clad at the beach vs too scantily clad at the beach.
There is no message, it's just kicking against the pricks. Using Steven's own "philosophy", one could argue against almost any social norm. Sure, it's hip to be different, but these norms exist for reasons more than happenstance.
I could take Steven's very own twisted paradigm and derive that swim wear is not a necessary item at the beach. After all, we all know what is underneath. Does that thin fine cloth covering a Woman's nipples and labium really make us feel better as a society?(man jokes aside) Our good ol' Steven might take it a step further and claim clothing all together is an antiquated tradition. Steven, as far as I'm concerned, has very little if any social boundaries and a small understanding of society itself outside of his dorm room.
His acolytes might come to his rescue and cheer him on in these forums, but those with real wisdom understand clearly his foolishness and weak arguments.
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On June 17 2011 18:54 Powda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 16:11 dogabutila wrote:
powda obviously missed the entire point. The message is more important then the format. Some people cannot understand this sadly.
When people are forced to hear him, SB2 said he would present the message in a more paletable format, however on his own stream he has the freedom to present his message however he chooses and others have the freedom not to watch if they so choose. If they don't, then fine.
I'm curious as to how you define okay scantily clad at the beach vs too scantily clad at the beach. There is no message, it's just kicking against the pricks. Using Steven's own "philosophy", one could argue against almost any social norm. Sure, it's hip to be different, but these norms exist for reasons more than happenstance. I could take Steven's very own twisted paradigm and derive that swim wear is not a necessary item at the beach. After all, we all know what is underneath. Does that thin fine cloth covering a Woman's nipples and labium really make us feel better as a society?(man jokes aside) Our good ol' Steven might take it a step further and claim clothing all together is an antiquated tradition. Steven, as far as I'm concerned, has very little if any social boundaries and a small understanding of society itself outside of his dorm room. His acolytes might come to his rescue and cheer him on in these forums, but those with real wisdom understand clearly his foolishness and weak arguments.
I feel like that isn't using Destiny's logic at all, that is using your own. Destiny has clearly said that he shall use cleaner language in public places (such as the police station), however not within his private stream.
Is that not fairly similar to wearing a swim suit at the beach but being naked at home? Watching Destiny's stream isn't at all comparable to going to the beach. If anything it is more like having your neighbors peruse their own house in the nude with the blinds open.
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On June 17 2011 15:28 Powda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 03:13 Destiny wrote:On June 17 2011 00:04 Powda wrote:
As a father, I am unable to watch Destiny's stream anymore due to his uncontrollable and explicit language problem. I am not condoning the use of profanity, just offended by the lack of common respect for a public stream from this man.
In an hour long special put on by Steven himself, he explains why he believes rhetoric should not define how a person feels or reacts. Although quite convincing at times, Steven was recorded during this special saying, "I would not repeat the word rape in a police station" since he might offend someone who experienced such an act....Yet defining all logic, of which Steven is blessed with reservoirs of (sarcasm alert!), he will spout out cascades of racial, religious and denuded profanity on the fly, to a stream of thousands, with no regrets. This mindless prattle has offended so many of his viewers that forums, videos and even rumored DDoS attacks have occurred in response to this rhetoric and complete lack of heed to his viewers. Although I do not justify such responses from his viewers, I am in amazement to how confused and almost ignorant Steven reacts to all of it.
Let us know when you change your mind Steven, we'll be in the Idra stream where even the rage master himself recognizes the connection between his viewers and his success. If you're not trolling, you're simply stupid. I feel sad for your children, that they'd have to be raised by a father so concerned with language and so clueless about ideas or messages. I said I wouldn't enter a police station saying "rape rape rape" because I am respectful of other people when I'm in their presence, much the same way I would censor my language when I'm around certain people if I know certain words offend them. That's just common human decency. That being said, this is MY stream. Unlike the police station, I don't force you to watch me, you can simply turn me off. Regardless, I'm sorry that you're so intellectually shallow that you're willing to judge the content of a message based on the words used to deliver it. I'm sorry that in your world, you'd rather someone convey the same message (You're an asshole!) using different words (You're a jerk!) and you think that it makes the latter acceptable over the former. Grow up, man. Or at least, please, keep your children away from mine. I also deter my children from pornagrophy, narcotics or dressing too scantily clad at the beach. Sometimes I even set curfews for them =O !! It's fascinating how foreign my world is to you.
What about violent movies or video games? Clearly Starcraft has quite a bit of murdering involved, have you not seen TvT's?
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On June 17 2011 19:04 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 18:54 Powda wrote:On June 17 2011 16:11 dogabutila wrote:
powda obviously missed the entire point. The message is more important then the format. Some people cannot understand this sadly.
When people are forced to hear him, SB2 said he would present the message in a more paletable format, however on his own stream he has the freedom to present his message however he chooses and others have the freedom not to watch if they so choose. If they don't, then fine.
I'm curious as to how you define okay scantily clad at the beach vs too scantily clad at the beach. There is no message, it's just kicking against the pricks. Using Steven's own "philosophy", one could argue against almost any social norm. Sure, it's hip to be different, but these norms exist for reasons more than happenstance. I could take Steven's very own twisted paradigm and derive that swim wear is not a necessary item at the beach. After all, we all know what is underneath. Does that thin fine cloth covering a Woman's nipples and labium really make us feel better as a society?(man jokes aside) Our good ol' Steven might take it a step further and claim clothing all together is an antiquated tradition. Steven, as far as I'm concerned, has very little if any social boundaries and a small understanding of society itself outside of his dorm room. His acolytes might come to his rescue and cheer him on in these forums, but those with real wisdom understand clearly his foolishness and weak arguments. I feel like that isn't using Destiny's logic at all, that is using your own. Destiny has clearly said that he shall use cleaner language in public places (such as the police station), however not within his private stream. Is that not fairly similar to wearing a swim suit at the beach but being naked at home? Watching Destiny's stream isn't at all comparable to going to the beach. If anything it is more like having your neighbors peruse their own house in the nude with the blinds open.
"I am respectful of other people when I'm in their presence, much the same way I would censor my language when I'm around certain people if I know certain words offend them. That's just common human decency."
Your God bleeds.
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On June 17 2011 19:15 Powda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 19:04 iCanada wrote:On June 17 2011 18:54 Powda wrote:On June 17 2011 16:11 dogabutila wrote:
powda obviously missed the entire point. The message is more important then the format. Some people cannot understand this sadly.
When people are forced to hear him, SB2 said he would present the message in a more paletable format, however on his own stream he has the freedom to present his message however he chooses and others have the freedom not to watch if they so choose. If they don't, then fine.
I'm curious as to how you define okay scantily clad at the beach vs too scantily clad at the beach. There is no message, it's just kicking against the pricks. Using Steven's own "philosophy", one could argue against almost any social norm. Sure, it's hip to be different, but these norms exist for reasons more than happenstance. I could take Steven's very own twisted paradigm and derive that swim wear is not a necessary item at the beach. After all, we all know what is underneath. Does that thin fine cloth covering a Woman's nipples and labium really make us feel better as a society?(man jokes aside) Our good ol' Steven might take it a step further and claim clothing all together is an antiquated tradition. Steven, as far as I'm concerned, has very little if any social boundaries and a small understanding of society itself outside of his dorm room. His acolytes might come to his rescue and cheer him on in these forums, but those with real wisdom understand clearly his foolishness and weak arguments. I feel like that isn't using Destiny's logic at all, that is using your own. Destiny has clearly said that he shall use cleaner language in public places (such as the police station), however not within his private stream. Is that not fairly similar to wearing a swim suit at the beach but being naked at home? Watching Destiny's stream isn't at all comparable to going to the beach. If anything it is more like having your neighbors peruse their own house in the nude with the blinds open. "I am respectful of other people when I'm in their presence, much the same way I would censor my language when I'm around certain people if I know certain words offend them. That's just common human decency." Your God bleeds.
Rofl, my god? I just enjoy starcraft, and find the guy entertaining. Apparently we share some views on censorship as well.
Damn, I really do feel sorry for your children.
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Powda, if you keep your kids away from Quentin Tarantino films, I'm sure you can keep them away from Destiny's stream, it's not like both parties aren't going to be pleased with the end result, now stop making a big fuss about nothing, this silly debate has no reason to be, they're just words man, there is no hidden message behind.
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