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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 25 2011 19:20 GMT
#1241
On November 26 2011 04:19 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:18 Serejai wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 redFF wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:52 Serejai wrote:
People who have not posted yet and who, if anyone, they voted for:

Tyrran
Vain
eezyBash
Mattchew (Greymist > Palmar)
Belial-
MrZentor
dukethegold
iLoveKT
t3tsubo (Bloodyc0bbler)
cosine (Greymist)
Chanyman (Sandroba)
Penke
ArcticRaven
ptz
Soap (Sandroba)
RoyGBiv_13
Coagulation
Holyflare (Sandroba)
tree.hugger
TheToast
vaderseven
RogerX (Palmar - "Got convinced man")
Gavin
spartan N30 (Greymist - "For best username besides TLO")
Lemonwalrus

and?
that's not a contribution

ignore him and he'll go away


Do you ever do anything other than whine and bitch about me outplaying you in previous games? It's getting old.

Sup active lurking useless troll, how's it going? Any thoughts besides "bacon"?


Pot calling the kettle black. Zzz.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 25 2011 19:20 GMT
#1242
On November 26 2011 04:17 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:16 redFF wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:34 deconduo wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:32 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:31 deconduo wrote:
Whats wrong with prpl exactly?

He isn't a veteran or good player at all, why the fuck would You request a protect for him, lol?


10+ games = veteran

i wasnt listed


I dropped you because of your pissing match with WBG

Great reasoning, You might beat prplhz and VisceraEyes in being worst town this game!
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 25 2011 19:21 GMT
#1243
On November 26 2011 04:20 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:19 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:18 Serejai wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 redFF wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:52 Serejai wrote:
People who have not posted yet and who, if anyone, they voted for:

Tyrran
Vain
eezyBash
Mattchew (Greymist > Palmar)
Belial-
MrZentor
dukethegold
iLoveKT
t3tsubo (Bloodyc0bbler)
cosine (Greymist)
Chanyman (Sandroba)
Penke
ArcticRaven
ptz
Soap (Sandroba)
RoyGBiv_13
Coagulation
Holyflare (Sandroba)
tree.hugger
TheToast
vaderseven
RogerX (Palmar - "Got convinced man")
Gavin
spartan N30 (Greymist - "For best username besides TLO")
Lemonwalrus

and?
that's not a contribution

ignore him and he'll go away


Do you ever do anything other than whine and bitch about me outplaying you in previous games? It's getting old.

Sup active lurking useless troll, how's it going? Any thoughts besides "bacon"?


Pot calling the kettle black. Zzz.

Thanks, now I understand why You want <Noone> lynched. I think we should think more about <Noone>, because reasons given by Serejai are quite solid.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 25 2011 19:22 GMT
#1244
I just scumslipped as town, woowee
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 25 2011 19:23 GMT
#1245
On November 26 2011 04:21 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:20 Serejai wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:19 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:18 Serejai wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 redFF wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:52 Serejai wrote:
People who have not posted yet and who, if anyone, they voted for:

Tyrran
Vain
eezyBash
Mattchew (Greymist > Palmar)
Belial-
MrZentor
dukethegold
iLoveKT
t3tsubo (Bloodyc0bbler)
cosine (Greymist)
Chanyman (Sandroba)
Penke
ArcticRaven
ptz
Soap (Sandroba)
RoyGBiv_13
Coagulation
Holyflare (Sandroba)
tree.hugger
TheToast
vaderseven
RogerX (Palmar - "Got convinced man")
Gavin
spartan N30 (Greymist - "For best username besides TLO")
Lemonwalrus

and?
that's not a contribution

ignore him and he'll go away


Do you ever do anything other than whine and bitch about me outplaying you in previous games? It's getting old.

Sup active lurking useless troll, how's it going? Any thoughts besides "bacon"?


Pot calling the kettle black. Zzz.

Thanks, now I understand why You want <Noone> lynched. I think we should think more about <Noone>, because reasons given by Serejai are quite solid.


I posted the list of people I think are worth lynching. It's not my fault you're illiterate and can't even read a post you quoted.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 25 2011 19:23 GMT
#1246
Since there a still only 2 people on palmars lynch list I'm going ahead and shamelessly steal wbgs accusation as it did not make it in the list for some reason. Maybe because he only wrote about 4 lines about him, maybe those 2 lists are in reality one combined list and he therefore is on the list. I don't know, trying to get it proper. If it's not needed because everyone already agreed with wbgs list I guess it's useless but here we go:

Erandorr
+ Show Spoiler +

#1: Klick me!
Only linking this one instead of quoting as it is his huge campaign post to not bomb the thread.

#2:
On November 24 2011 23:19 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 23:16 bonifaceviii wrote:
On November 24 2011 21:15 hyshes wrote:
I've totally a null read on anybody. If this isn't changing, i'm gonna vote randomly for mayor (we outnumber the scum, so playing the game of numbers) But i do hope i can make a logical decision.

On November 24 2011 23:10 hyshes wrote:
I voted errandor just to have a vote atm. Probably will change.

I'm not sure this is scummy or not, but it's definitely dumb.


Well what do you think about my campaign then ^.^

He askes the guy what he thinks. Easy to do to look pro-town and it certainly is not something scumm imo but he's only doing that the whole time. Not contributing himself. Not really important but since he made a lot of those posts that add up I'm quoting it. Actually I'm quoting everything he said in this thread!

#3:
On November 24 2011 23:22 Erandorr wrote:
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On November 24 2011 23:15 Hassybaby wrote:
I just finished writing like an 8 page article to post on TL and now trying to analyse what's going on here is actually killing my brain...

On November 24 2011 22:52 Erandorr wrote:
Newbies

Basicly no one is going to play well in their first game. I don't know of anyone who did. But to use something some smart Player once said : The greatest thing you can do as a Townie is making you alignment apparant. If you stay lurking in the shadows, we have nothing to asses you and will probably have to waste Powerroles or lynches to get rid of you. In that case you are actually hurting town more than helping. Thats why there is so much focus on activity. Its okay if your reads are a bit off in your first game, it is usually fairly easy to spot the intentions behind it. It is especially important because we have no information about you , your playstyle and capabilities(Meta)


See, this is my main problem. I have absolutely no idea who I can contribute in a positive manner. People mention that it is better to contribute, even if you get it wrong, but the fear of me making a mistake makes me not want to contribute, but me not contributing makes me making a mistake...

I think this is also why I'm leaning towards Palmar; he's clearly a veteran, so a fear of making a mistake has made me lean towards following him, maybe even a bit blindly. That may well be a great plan all along, to get all the newbies on your side so you get a safe Mayoral role (make a lot of sense in my eyes) but because of that...I have no idea now...


Well give your thoughts about players. Tell us what you think about the different campaigns. Analyse every post and question the motives behind it. Think about the content and if you agree / disagree and give reasons.

The same as #2. He tells someone to talk about what he (Hassybaby) thinks. Yeah sure it's not a scummy move but again. Those things add up and is pretty much everything he did.

#4:
On November 24 2011 23:23 Erandorr wrote:
Palmar Ninja. So mean.

Not much to say about that. I said I'm quoting everything he said to point out how little he contributed and that's what I'm doing.

#5:
On November 25 2011 22:46 Erandorr wrote:
Sorry for my complete inactivity, especially when I pushed a campaign on being active etc (lol).

I will post something longer in a short while

Excuses for being inactive. Still nothing contributed. Do not like. If he changes that attitude that's maybe fine, if he doesn't it's not.

#6:
On November 25 2011 22:47 Erandorr wrote:
Soon(tm)

Another one I don't have to explain. Just because I said I'll quote everything.

#7:
On November 26 2011 02:04 Erandorr wrote:
All right.

First of, about the election :

I will be voting for Palmar. He pushed a very solid campaign from the start and put a lot of effort in it. The effort part is actually important when trying to figure out his alignment. He kept activity high, engaged the new players in the conversation and discussed basicly every topic that got brought up. Thats more pro town than I have ever seen him play.
The alternative would have been WBG, but I can't force myself to do that.
I still thin that I would have made a good mayor in this situation. However anyone who votes for me now would have to be retarded because I did not keep one of my very basic promises I made.

My thoughts about the DT plan:

This basicly just negates DT checks and framers in general. There is no way to get anything out of a check. If I am mistaken then someone please explain to me why, because I am not seeing it.
I do like the attempt to coordinate blues when we are certain to have quite a few roles distributed between the newer players. There is one thing again that I absolutely dislike about the general plan that has been created. There is quite a bit that can go wrong. What if scum has no players on the DT list at frames innocent peoplw into their death? What if they have only one person on the Vigi list and know exactly where they have to send their protection.
I guess what I am trying to say is that I still feel like there is too little randomness and too much predictability (?) that could end up helping scum more than it is helping us.


Finally something I'd call a "post" at all. First of all I don't think he'd make a good mayor with that activity. Secondly I think he really got than plan wrong. wbg said several times he's against breadcrumbing also he said that if a vigi shoots someone and he survives that's np because NOONE except a mafia doc will save someone. So if someone is not dead although he got shot by a vigi he's going to die the very next day anyway. Nevertheless that's a decent post in comparision with what he did so far.

#8
On November 26 2011 02:04 Erandorr wrote:
Day1 Suspects coming up soon!(tm)

And yet another of those posts.

----------
Now you may ask "Is that really everything erandorr posted so far?" and I got to asnwer that one with a clear yes.
Check out the filter. Everything else was before the game started.
Conclusion: Except for that one post all he did is a joke in my opinion.


I think he should be added to the list just because of the amount of nothing he has done so far unless there's a pretty damn good explanation (that's your call erandorr) for all of this and an immediate change of heart.

We really need more people on the list guys or that plan we got is not going to work at all.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 25 2011 19:24 GMT
#1247
On November 26 2011 04:23 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:21 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:20 Serejai wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:19 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:18 Serejai wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 redFF wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 02:52 Serejai wrote:
People who have not posted yet and who, if anyone, they voted for:

Tyrran
Vain
eezyBash
Mattchew (Greymist > Palmar)
Belial-
MrZentor
dukethegold
iLoveKT
t3tsubo (Bloodyc0bbler)
cosine (Greymist)
Chanyman (Sandroba)
Penke
ArcticRaven
ptz
Soap (Sandroba)
RoyGBiv_13
Coagulation
Holyflare (Sandroba)
tree.hugger
TheToast
vaderseven
RogerX (Palmar - "Got convinced man")
Gavin
spartan N30 (Greymist - "For best username besides TLO")
Lemonwalrus

and?
that's not a contribution

ignore him and he'll go away


Do you ever do anything other than whine and bitch about me outplaying you in previous games? It's getting old.

Sup active lurking useless troll, how's it going? Any thoughts besides "bacon"?


Pot calling the kettle black. Zzz.

Thanks, now I understand why You want <Noone> lynched. I think we should think more about <Noone>, because reasons given by Serejai are quite solid.


I posted the list of people I think are worth lynching. It's not my fault you're illiterate and can't even read a post you quoted.

Oh, LURKERS? Like we don't have modkills and lurker banes, nice try annul's bitch, but wasting time our time this way is quite obvious.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
November 25 2011 19:25 GMT
#1248
does anybody other than palmer or sandroba stand a good chance of getting elected right now?
i am concerned that mafia could be pushing one of these as it seems that there really aren't other people with votes. I also think that late mayoral campaigns would appear suspicious so it seems reasonable to think that there will be large and/or multiple mafia campaigns that either have to begin soon or have already been announced to avoid drawing high amounts of suspicion.
if there are really only 2 candidates with a chance is'nt is reasonable to state that the mafia are capable of ensuring one of them is theirs? and wouldn't that mean voting for either of them is quite risky?
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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
November 25 2011 19:25 GMT
#1249
On November 26 2011 04:02 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:52 hyshes wrote:
I'm just gonna stick with my vote on errandor. He seems solid.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174&user=117613&currentpage=3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=117613&currentpage=2

I think he's scum... might be wrong, but this passiveness fits his scummeta...
Go look that up yourself. I found these filters when I was researching YMs past.


Supersoft : XLIV was my first game and I was scum. Of course I was just shadowing/lurking and crossing my fingers hoping no one would listen to Palmar.

Hyshes. Why on earth would you keep your vote on me? I was inactive for a very long time, not contributing to anything. What made you think at that point that I would still make a good mayor?

I still would like to hear the answer to my question about the DT/Vig plan. Could you please explain to me why we should give that much free information to scum?
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 25 2011 19:26 GMT
#1250
Also, any sane mayor should lynch me based off this post
On November 26 2011 04:20 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:17 deconduo wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:16 redFF wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:34 deconduo wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:32 Kurumi wrote:
On November 26 2011 03:31 deconduo wrote:
Whats wrong with prpl exactly?

He isn't a veteran or good player at all, why the fuck would You request a protect for him, lol?


10+ games = veteran

i wasnt listed


I dropped you because of your pissing match with WBG

Great reasoning, You might beat prplhz and VisceraEyes in being worst town this game!

Like I fucking know alignments. I don't, but those can't get away.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 25 2011 19:27 GMT
#1251
On November 26 2011 03:53 GreYMisT wrote:
If elected, I will be using my double vote power the first night as long as everyone agrees to lynch sinani

Who is your second lynch then?

GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 25 2011 19:29 GMT
#1252
On November 26 2011 04:27 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 03:53 GreYMisT wrote:
If elected, I will be using my double vote power the first night as long as everyone agrees to lynch sinani

Who is your second lynch then?



I'm talking day 2, at the moment I will be killing young for my mayor lynch.
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Gavin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States10 Posts
November 25 2011 19:39 GMT
#1253
Well, I'm pretty new to TL mafia, and even though I'm somewhat knowledgeable on voting patterns, I'm just going to chill back and watch you guys for a day or two before I try to deduce anything.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
November 25 2011 19:43 GMT
#1254
On November 26 2011 04:39 Gavin wrote:
Well, I'm pretty new to TL mafia, and even though I'm somewhat knowledgeable on voting patterns, I'm just going to chill back and watch you guys for a day or two before I try to deduce anything.

Lurker vig candidate #1
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
November 25 2011 19:45 GMT
#1255
On November 26 2011 04:39 Gavin wrote:
Well, I'm pretty new to TL mafia, and even though I'm somewhat knowledgeable on voting patterns, I'm just going to chill back and watch you guys for a day or two before I try to deduce anything.

no
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 25 2011 19:45 GMT
#1256
I voted for Sandroba due to the fact that he had a good mayoral campaign so far. His scum read, while somewhat guessy, is most probably accurate and even if it is not a person posting one liners will not contribute to the town in any way.

Palmar was a close second and he has posted a lot of content, which seems for the most part legit, but due to his veterancy and people saying that he can downplay his scum roles rather well I decided to go for a safer option.

(Sorry for afkness, was busy for a day and had to read like 20 pages...)
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
November 25 2011 19:46 GMT
#1257
On November 26 2011 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
I voted for Sandroba due to the fact that he had a good mayoral campaign so far. His scum read, while somewhat guessy, is most probably accurate and even if it is not a person posting one liners will not contribute to the town in any way.

Palmar was a close second and he has posted a lot of content, which seems for the most part legit, but due to his veterancy and people saying that he can downplay his scum roles rather well I decided to go for a safer option.

(Sorry for afkness, was busy for a day and had to read like 20 pages...)


What do you think of BC/Palmar's plan?
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
Gavin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States10 Posts
November 25 2011 19:47 GMT
#1258
On November 26 2011 04:45 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:39 Gavin wrote:
Well, I'm pretty new to TL mafia, and even though I'm somewhat knowledgeable on voting patterns, I'm just going to chill back and watch you guys for a day or two before I try to deduce anything.

no


=(

If I don't know what's good and bad, might as well not say anything at all. It's good that I'm posting even this compared to others who'd just lurk the entire first few days.
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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
November 25 2011 19:49 GMT
#1259
Gavin, don't pay attention to the bad mannered trolls - but bear in mind that town needs people to contribute instead if laying back.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
November 25 2011 19:50 GMT
#1260
On November 26 2011 04:47 Gavin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:45 sinani206 wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:39 Gavin wrote:
Well, I'm pretty new to TL mafia, and even though I'm somewhat knowledgeable on voting patterns, I'm just going to chill back and watch you guys for a day or two before I try to deduce anything.

no


=(

If I don't know what's good and bad, might as well not say anything at all. It's good that I'm posting even this compared to others who'd just lurk the entire first few days.


It's OK to make mistakes as town. Only mafia worry about mistakes.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
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