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On September 22 2011 03:34 Nisani201 wrote:
I breadcrumbed because I did not know if there was a specific person who was told that they needed the element. If I said HEY GUISE I GOTZ DA ELEMENT WHO WANTS IT HURRRR, then scum might ask for it. But breadcrumbing it would only make sense to the person who needed it (however obviously this got severely messed up because I was breadcrumbing the wrong element).
Mind explaining my other "contradictions"?
Here's the other big one before this happened: (I pointed it out before but no one really cared)
On September 20 2011 01:39 Nisani201 wrote:
Ok, what the fuck? How did we get a no-lynch?
I'm on my iPod right now so I can't navigate as quickly, but I am putting big FoS on the outliers. Obviously scum wants a no-lynch.
On September 20 2011 05:59 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 03:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
LOL says the guy who was barely around yesterday.
We should lynch Nisani today, he's been lurking far too long. Lurkers are what's killing this game and he is by far the scummiest lurker of them all. I explained in thread why I wasn't around yesterday. And lurkers aren't killing the game, the no-lynch that YOU CAUSED is killing this game.
On September 20 2011 09:04 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 08:47 Jackal58 wrote:On September 20 2011 01:39 Nisani201 wrote:
Ok, what the fuck? How did we get a no-lynch?
I'm on my iPod right now so I can't navigate as quickly, but I am putting big FoS on the outliers. Obviously scum wants a no-lynch. The outliers (of which you are one) were freaking useless. Sorry, that was poorly worded. I meant people who were voting for someone with otherwise no votes.
On September 20 2011 09:22 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 09:16 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 20 2011 09:14 Curu wrote:
I don't think Nisani is scum. It's probably Forumite. Nisani has bad posting but it doesn't seem to align with Mafia objectives. wtf you spend all day yesterday not here, then come in and just assert Nisani is town? Of course his behavior lines with mafia objectives, he was trying to push the blame around on multiple people for a no lynch yesterday (which he wasn't here to influence!) He was conveniently gone the entire time and then comes back and rages at us. He didn't have to provide his opinion cause he wasn't there! Are you scumbuddies with Nisani? The only person I blame for the no-lynch is you.
You go and contradict yourself TWICE on the same thing in four posts.
On September 21 2011 04:06 Nisani201 wrote:
Sigh, I guess I'll have to write an analysis on WBG when I get home today. So like, in a few hours.
You know when that was? Exactly 24 hours ago. I still see no analysis on me. Contradiction #2; your actions did not line up with your words. You said you'd write something on me, and as was predictable, nothing showed up.
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up
##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58
I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?
OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.
On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.
then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3
On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.
When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:
On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.
So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?
God you're terrible.
On September 22 2011 00:19 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, I've had enough of this. WBG is being anti-town by criticizing EVERYTHING that's happening. Even if he is not scum, he still needs to die for his hostile behavior.
##Unvote
##Vote: wherebugsgo
Voting me and saying I need to die even if I'm not scum?
Dude, can you get more anti-town?
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On September 22 2011 03:57 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:12 Lucidity wrote:
A name is not the same as a time.
I had to double check my element name before I posted as well.
There's no way I wouldn't know that I got an item AT THE START OF THE GAME. Setting the facts straight: I got my piece of Honesty with the Day 1 post, not with the rolepost, it was around a realtime day between those.
same here. I actually incorrectly assumed it was night 1 precisely because of this reason; the two posts were fairly fair apart in my inbox thanks to the PMs I'd received inbetween my role PM and the piece PM.
Also, Nisani's mistake is NOT something a townie would do. On its own, perhaps, but there are numerous other things that make him look terrible.
I know townies can play bad and all, but this takes it to a new level. It's not just about this one mistake. He's done nothing good for town all game, and as you can see in my post above he's contradicted himself several times over despite all his posts being fluff.
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Uh oh, you've suffered from Filter Syndrome. Again. This is annoying, and I'm not even going to bother defending myself against this because of how much bullshit it is.
I guess I will have to write an analysis against you. Really, I shouldn't have to convince people that you're scum, but unfortunately it's come to that.
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On September 22 2011 04:04 Nisani201 wrote:
Uh oh, you've suffered from Filter Syndrome. Again. This is annoying, and I'm not even going to bother defending myself against this because of how much bullshit it is.
I guess I will have to write an analysis against you. Really, I shouldn't have to convince people that you're scum, but unfortunately it's come to that.
You're not even rebutting any of my points.
You know why? Cause you can't. No one plays this bad as town, and you know it.
Also, you'll have to fabricate an analysis against me now because I called you out on your bluff, the bluff no one else noticed because everyone else in this town is named Derpyhooves and can't see scum when they're flinging mud in their faces.
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Don't even bother. Unless you want another no lynch.
TODAY WE LYNCH FORUMITE / JACKAL / CURU
WBG: Go look at Cyber_Cheese's posts. And DAD's. How are you not attacking him, but going after Nisani instead? The former takes trolling/bad town play/whatthewhat to a whole new level.
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On September 22 2011 04:10 Lucidity wrote:
Don't even bother. Unless you want another no lynch.
TODAY WE LYNCH FORUMITE / JACKAL / CURU
WBG: Go look at Cyber_Cheese's posts. And DAD's. How are you not attacking him, but going after Nisani instead? The former takes trolling/bad town play/whatthewhat to a whole new level.
Because on principle I stay away from lynching lurkers. This is why Nisani wasn't my #1 choice on day 1. He was lurking too much and there wasn't enough information. Now he's been alive for 3 days and there's a gold mine of information despite all his posts being absolute one liner fluff.
There are no scum tells with cyber. He's dumb town to me. At this stage in the game we lynch with what we know, and we know Nisani is a much worse detriment to town than Cyber_Cheese.
Read my posts that outline Nisani's contradictions. Look at his play from a mafia perspective and tell me where my analysis is wrong. If you keep dismissing my arguments without actually considering them then I'm going to have to assume that you're doing it for anti-town reasons too.
Would I be okay with lynching Cyber_Cheese? I would be if you actually made a case on him that I agree with, and atm you just keep asserting that he's the better lynch without actually providing justification for what makes Nisani a bad lynch and what makes Cyber a good one.
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actually sorry, that was a misunderstanding on my part. I see you're not suggesting we lynch Cyber, but are asking me why I'm not attacking me.
Anyway, the answer is still there, he's lurking and there's no info. Nisani is a better lynch to me.
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If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.
And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.
@Everyone: State your opinions on
FORUMITE
JACKAL
CURU
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Can we get a vote count oh powerful GMarshal?
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Yeah, a votecount would really help.
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This is my take on Curu:
Me and Nisani was suspicious about scum within the CMC-circle, Curu was certain from the moment he claimed. There is only one way to be certain, it being if Curu is scum. When everyone claimed, this was his chance of throwing (more) suspicion on me, and avoid looking bad as the only one not claiming, so he took the chance.
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On September 22 2011 04:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Can we get a vote count oh powerful GMarshal?
Working on it
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On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town. And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp. @Everyone: State your opinions on FORUMITE
JACKAL
CURU
believe me, you're not the only frustrated one. This town is one of the worst ones I've played in yet. Worse than XLIV even. Granted, part of it is obviously my fault as a member of town but I don't really think I'm playing as bad as I did in my first ever game (XLIV)
As for your questions:
Forumite
I've had moments were I thought Forumite could swing mafia, but now I think that's an exception to the rule. For the most part I've had a town read on him. The way he argued with me over the PM debacle did not seem like something mafia would do. They don't straight up take on another player in a reasonable argument. He was being logical and he was presenting well reasoned points despite us being in disagreement. That's constructive to town and I don't really see that as mafia play.
In addition, he was extremely easy for me to read as non-town in Cosmic. As soon as I replaced into the game I knew that he would be a top suspect. Going on the little bit of that part of his meta that I know, I don't think he'd act like this as mafia. (or third party) + Show Spoiler +Damn scum Jackal shot me when I fell asleep and missed the freaking 6 am deadline otherwise I'd actually have put my suspicions in that game out there :p
Jackal
There are arguments that can be made for both sides here but I say town, primarily because tnkted is still alive and for the most part the things they both did were either extremely pro-town or the sickest mafia gambit ever. While I realize it's possible Jackal could've gambited (like he did in Cosmic with JeeJee) I doubt it.
Curu
Curu's play has been absolutely terrible this game. At first I gave him the benefit of the doubt because of LOTR and his general inactivity, but now it's beginning to bother me. He could be mafia, and I think he's the most likely to be mafia in this group. I'd actually like Forumite's opinion on Curu, since they're both in the same QT.
Would I vote any of these guys? Nah, not today. Today Nisani is the best lynch.
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On September 21 2011 22:55 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote:It didn't On September 21 2011 22:22 Nisani201 wrote:
No you guys are wrong.
I have the Element of Honesty, but I have to give it to someone in order for it to work. But I don't know if it's a specific person or just anyone. That's a lie. ##UNVOTE:
##VOTE: Nisani201. I dont exactly get what is going on here, why is that a lie and what is the element of honesty?
On September 21 2011 23:37 Erandorr wrote:
Btw this whole thing here convinced me even further that forumite is scum.
Time to kill some scum
##vote forumite
WHAT IS THIS? ROFL
Obviously hasn't read the thread just like Nisani.
But how did Nisani's claim fuck up convince him that Forumite is scum?
over life.
@WBG: I don't think Nisani has acted more scummy than other derpers. Look at your own case. You say that he contradicted himself by calling Jackal scum and then giving the element to Jackal. But he called him scum when he thought Jackal was lying about the element of honesty. ONLY AFTER he realised he had Generosity and Jackal wasn't scum for having Honesty did he consider giving it to him.
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Needs 5 votes to lynch.
wherebugsgo (1)
1-Nisani201
15-Nisani201
Nisani201 (2)
2-wherebugsgo
9-Jackal58
10-Forumite
13-tnkted
Forumite (2)
3-Jackal58
4-Curu
5-Cyber_Cheese
12-Erandorr
Cyber_Cheese (1)
6-Lucidity
8-Nisani201
14-Nisani201
16-Jackal58
Lucidity (1)
7-Cyber_Cheese
Jackal58 (-)
11-Nisani201
Curu (1)
17-Lucidity
Modkills
tnkted
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Well everyone in this game is anti-town.
We need to disregard that and try to find pro-scum players.
Forumite and Jackal fall in to that classification due to their role in the no-lynch ... possibly saving a scumbuddy.
Curu falls in to it for joining this game with the intention of killing sinani no matter what.
They all do for not hunting scum.
Curu, would you consider giving your element to tnkted?
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On September 22 2011 04:33 Lucidity wrote:
@WBG: I don't think Nisani has acted more scummy than other derpers. Look at your own case. You say that he contradicted himself by calling Jackal scum and then giving the element to Jackal. But he called him scum when he thought Jackal was lying about the element of honesty. ONLY AFTER he realised he had Generosity and Jackal wasn't scum for having Honesty did he consider giving it to him.
Why are you giving him excuses?
First of all, Nisani could've said that himself (which he didn't.) Second, he obviously didn't read the thread or he'd know that both Jackal and tnkted were the closest to being confirmed town yesterday. Thus he would've NEVER suspected Jackal no matter what he said! He was looking for an easy way to pin someone else as a target instead of himself.
Also, he wanted to give it to Jackal even before he realized he had generosity. Look:
On September 21 2011 22:24 Nisani201 wrote:
If there isn't a specific person who needs it then I will give it to tnkted or Jackal.
Just look at how his vote pattern goes. It goes from me, to Jackal, to Cyber all in the process of him tunneling me for no reason, fake claiming and trying to paint Jackal as scum, then immediately trying to lose the heat. In the process of trying to lose the heat he says "oh shit fuck I'm going to get lynched now" and votes Cyber again.
Why the hell are you defending him?
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The cycle is only between you and Cyber_cheese (who are both scum), Jackal only got my vote for a short period of time because of the honsety/generosity thing.
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Are you reading his filter or the thread? Read the thread and it becomes quite clear what happened.
He wanted to give it to one of them. THen Jackal said he already had Honest and voted Nisani. Then Nisani thought Jackal was scum for fake claiming it. Then he realised he derped and said he'd give it to Jackal again. Make sense?
I'm trying to point out to you that you're tunneling. And I think you're tunneling anti/bad town play instead of pro scum.
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