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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 21 2011 20:08 GMT
#1261
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.
Enjoy your day.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:09 GMT
#1262
It's amazing that Jackal can admit that the entire town is being derp.

And then his reason for finding Nisani scummy is that he's "inept" aka derp.




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Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:11 GMT
#1263
On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.

They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???
Valar Morghulis
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 21 2011 20:15 GMT
#1264
On September 22 2011 05:11 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.

They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???


I think I wrote earlier that its too late to lynch based on the assumption that one out of 3 must be scum. not a good trade for us at this point. So just do the correct thing and vote for the person you are most convinced is scum, that one out of those has to be scum is a bonus, nothing more.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:16 GMT
#1265
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.
Valar Morghulis
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 20:16 GMT
#1266
On September 22 2011 05:11 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.

They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???


Until then you can't keep pushing three targets at once
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:17 GMT
#1267
On September 22 2011 05:15 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:11 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.

They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???


I think I wrote earlier that its too late to lynch based on the assumption that one out of 3 must be scum. not a good trade for us at this point. So just do the correct thing and vote for the person you are most convinced is scum, that one out of those has to be scum is a bonus, nothing more.

No one suggested that we lynch through that circle.
Valar Morghulis
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 21 2011 20:17 GMT
#1268
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:18 GMT
#1269
On September 22 2011 05:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:11 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.

They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???


Until then you can't keep pushing three targets at once

There is most likely three scum in this game. Or at least two.




...
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:19 GMT
#1270
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!

What do you mean? Explain to me why you thought Nisani's claim made Forumite more scummy please.
Valar Morghulis
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 21 2011 20:20 GMT
#1271
On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.

You often come back to if someone is interested in hunting scum. You think I´m scum due to not scumhunting, even though I have a very non-aggressive playstyle, which is why I draw votes for being wishy-washy, but that´s just the way I play, it´s not a scumtell to me, because my Town metagame is not based around pressuring and hunting as much as other players. Now, the important question here is not how I play, it´s if it is normal for Jackal to scumhunt aggressively? Do you think he´s going for easy lynches and is carefull to not take an unpopular stand?
:3
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 20:21 GMT
#1272
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


retarded play is characteristic of a lot of townies but it isn't exclusive to townies. We can't just dismiss Nisani being mafia on the assumption that because he's playing badly he's auto town.

In fact, that's a horrible assertion because then it invites the mafia to play like garbage and get away with it.

All of your defense of Nisani is completely speculative. None of it is based on any objective evidence. So what if you think he'd have to plan something like that? Plans can be just as bad as players regardless of alignment.

Lastly, IMO Lucidity is scum as well.

Let's think about what he's done recently:

1.) Defend Nisani over and over with poor logic
2.) Push THREE other targets at once, such that if one of them flips town blame is absolved and he can move onto pushing a mislynch for one of the other two
3.) Push those three targets without really making much of an argument for why they're scum, or even why he thinks they're all connected.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#1273
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!


wtf are you scumbuddies with Lucidity and Nisani too?

None of you make any arguments for your proposed lynches whatsoever, you just keep distracting town attention away from Nisani.

This just makes me even more confident in lynching him today.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 21 2011 20:24 GMT
#1274
On September 22 2011 05:19 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!

What do you mean? Explain to me why you thought Nisani's claim made Forumite more scummy please.


I never did. I pushed forumite from the start, stoped morons/scum from lynching nisani overly quickly and then decided after that that its time to kill forimite. Either you read the thread really carelessly or you are intentionnaly shitting up everything.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#1275
On September 22 2011 05:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!


wtf are you scumbuddies with Lucidity and Nisani too?

None of you make any arguments for your proposed lynches whatsoever, you just keep distracting town attention away from Nisani.

This just makes me even more confident in lynching him today.


How is that tunnel you seem to be living in these days?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#1276
On September 22 2011 05:24 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:19 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!

What do you mean? Explain to me why you thought Nisani's claim made Forumite more scummy please.


I never did. I pushed forumite from the start, stoped morons/scum from lynching nisani overly quickly and then decided after that that its time to kill forimite. Either you read the thread really carelessly or you are intentionnaly shitting up everything.


Nice attempt at distancing there...
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#1277
On September 22 2011 05:25 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!


wtf are you scumbuddies with Lucidity and Nisani too?

None of you make any arguments for your proposed lynches whatsoever, you just keep distracting town attention away from Nisani.

This just makes me even more confident in lynching him today.


How is that tunnel you seem to be living in these days?


yeah cause making a coherent case on someone I think is scum these days is tunneling, right?

God you guys are thick
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#1278
On September 22 2011 05:20 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.

You often come back to if someone is interested in hunting scum. You think I´m scum due to not scumhunting, even though I have a very non-aggressive playstyle, which is why I draw votes for being wishy-washy, but that´s just the way I play, it´s not a scumtell to me, because my Town metagame is not based around pressuring and hunting as much as other players. Now, the important question here is not how I play, it´s if it is normal for Jackal to scumhunt aggressively? Do you think he´s going for easy lynches and is carefull to not take an unpopular stand?


Would you mind sharing your reads at this point?
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:26 GMT
#1279
Curu has defended Nisani and voted Forumite as well.

Is he part of our scum team too? Oh boy, we are 4. We are in LyLo! <3
Valar Morghulis
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
September 21 2011 20:27 GMT
#1280
Okay, I'm back, and I recieved my item. It is in fact generosity, he wasn't lying about that. It doesn't have any powers either.

On September 22 2011 02:32 Curu wrote:
tnkted, did it specifically bold the confused part in Lucidity's name or did you just do that yourself?


It bolded the entire name. Derpy Hooves, Confused Pegasus. I bolded the confused because I wanted to draw attention to it.

Regarding the nisani/forumite thing: I'm thinking forumite is the best lynch today. Given the fact that nisani wasn't lying about the item I don't think he's scum, just acting funky.

And lucidity: I think jackal is probably town, although I am (like you) confused by how low he's been laying since he was confirmed town. I also want to see what generosity does when it's combined with the other items, so (just so there isn't any debate about whether he's lying or not)
YO JACKAL THROW ME THE ITEMS, LETS SEE WHAT GENEROSITY DOES
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
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