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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 21 2011 19:48 GMT
#1241
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 21 2011 19:49 GMT
#1242
Hmmm, I appear to have quoted posts that make a different point, though still relevant. He voted on Jackal and then sent the element to him, that makes no sense.
:3
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#1243
On September 22 2011 04:47 Lucidity wrote:
Are you reading his filter or the thread? Read the thread and it becomes quite clear what happened.

He wanted to give it to one of them. THen Jackal said he already had Honest and voted Nisani. Then Nisani thought Jackal was scum for fake claiming it. Then he realised he derped and said he'd give it to Jackal again. Make sense?

I'm trying to point out to you that you're tunneling. And I think you're tunneling anti/bad town play instead of pro scum.


I'm reading both.

It still makes sense from a mafia perspective!

If he was pro town he would NEVER claim honesty. Claiming honesty screams anti town because it telegraphs to us that he has not been reading the thread.

Tell me, what has Nisani done for town this game?

Also, of course it's pro-scum play. He gets another day free when he splits the vote and basically abstains by voting me, Jackal, cyber, or whoever else he chooses who is extremely unlikely to get lynched.

What do you say about him saying he'll post analysis on me and then not coming up with it? What do you say about him saying he suspects the outliers and the other voters but only focusing on me? Is that all "anti-town" play too and doesn't warrant us lynching him?

I'm starting to think you guys are scum buddies.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 19:53 GMT
#1244
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch? Because everyone of you just scream NO YOU at each other? Because I haven't said this guy is definitely scum, lynch him?
Who would you like me to pick? Any case I make on anybody is going to be based entirely on WIFOM and derp factors. And I can make that case on everybody remaining in the game. That's the fucking problem.
I keep thinking you want me lynched because you know tnkted and I may very well have broken the game.
I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.
I keep thinking Forumite is scum for spending the entirety of Night 0 talking about me and next to nothing else.
I keep thinking Cyber_Cheese is scum because he's lurking hardcore and babbling when he does post.
I keep thinking Nisani is scum because nobody can be that freaking inept.
I keep thinking Curu is scum because of the way he bussed Sinani.
I keep thinking Erandorr is scum because I was pretty sure Sevryn was.

I can also look at all your posts and think to myself "That's a townie move"

I am going to join with Bugs though. I wanted a Nisani lynch over Bugs on day 2. We didn't have enough people active to pull it off though.

##UNVOTE:
##VOTE: Nisani210
Life can only kill you once.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 19:54 GMT
#1245
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?
Valar Morghulis
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 21 2011 19:55 GMT
#1246
You are definitely getting an analysis. Yesterday I was distracted by Cyber_cheese so I did not write it, however I will not let that happen this time.
Enjoy your day.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 21 2011 19:55 GMT
#1247
On September 21 2011 23:30 Nisani201 wrote:
I don't have a half of the element of honesty (that I know of). I have the full thing, all I know is that I have to give it to someone else in order for it to work.

Jackal, what the fuck? First you lie about having the Element, and now you want me to give it to your scumbuddy?

##Vote: Jackal58
On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.

These are the weird posts, first he votes on Jackal, then wants to give him the element.
:3
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 19:55 GMT
#1248
Ok scum wins.
Valar Morghulis
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 19:56 GMT
#1249
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?


wtf I've been trying to explain it for like two pages and you keep ignoring the majority of the points I make
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 19:57 GMT
#1250
READ THE THREAD NOT FILTERS.

I've even explained how that's not a contradiction. Even if you're too lazy to read the thread. I really give up.

Forumite has admitted in the past to not reading my case on WBG, and at the same time not being convinced of my caseo n WBG' NO NONO!N@$$
Valar Morghulis
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 19:57 GMT
#1251
On September 22 2011 04:55 Nisani201 wrote:
You are definitely getting an analysis. Yesterday I was distracted by Cyber_cheese so I did not write it, however I will not let that happen this time.


more excuses.

dude keep playing badly, if you somehow miraculously flip town I am going to vig/lynch/whatever you every day so I never have to deal with this again.

It is so extremely frustrating to try to consolidate town votes and clean up town atmosphere when you defecate all over it every single time you enter the thread.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 19:57 GMT
#1252
Make that
##VOTE: Nisani201
Life can only kill you once.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
September 21 2011 19:57 GMT
#1253
On September 22 2011 04:55 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:30 Nisani201 wrote:
I don't have a half of the element of honesty (that I know of). I have the full thing, all I know is that I have to give it to someone else in order for it to work.

Jackal, what the fuck? First you lie about having the Element, and now you want me to give it to your scumbuddy?

##Vote: Jackal58
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.

These are the weird posts, first he votes on Jackal, then wants to give him the element.

Really?
Enjoy your day.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#1254
On September 22 2011 04:57 Lucidity wrote:
READ THE THREAD


tell that to your scumbuddy Nisani over there man

he could really improve his scum play by just reading the thread.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#1255
That was @Forumite.
On September 22 2011 04:53 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch?

.
.
.

I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.

ERM?

I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3?

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.
Valar Morghulis
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 21 2011 20:02 GMT
#1256
On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
That was @Forumite.
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch?

.
.
.

I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.

ERM?

I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3?

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.


actually the rest of the post had a lot of relevance.

He was suggesting you've had "scumreads" on like everyone in this game so far. AKA you can't possibly be right because there's not 12 scum in this game.


Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
September 21 2011 20:05 GMT
#1257
On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
That was @Forumite.
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch?

.
.
.

I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.

ERM?

I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3?

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.

I don't think you're town. If you were you would see how next to fucking impossible it is in this derp fest.
Life can only kill you once.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:06 GMT
#1258
On September 22 2011 05:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
That was @Forumite.
On September 22 2011 04:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch?

.
.
.

I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.

ERM?

I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3?

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.


actually the rest of the post had a lot of relevance.

He was suggesting you've had "scumreads" on like everyone in this game so far. AKA you can't possibly be right because there's not 12 scum in this game.



Those are HIS "scumreads" not mine.

And you're missing what he's doing. He's stating 1 suspicious thing everyone has done. And then the very next thing he says that he can point out why he thinks everyone is town too. He has no scumreads.
None.
ZILCH. He's perma trying to move to lurkers or bad townies. Not scum. He's not hunting scum.

Please.

What i'm currently trying to do is separate the BAD TOWNIES from PRO SCUMMERS.

And the top 3 in that list are Forumite / Jackal / Curu.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:07 GMT
#1259
On September 22 2011 05:05 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
That was @Forumite.
On September 22 2011 04:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch?

.
.
.

I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.

ERM?

I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3?

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.

I don't think you're town. If you were you would see how next to fucking impossible it is in this derp fest.

So you have no clue who is scum, but you'd rather save random people (who according to your previous post have been just as scummy as the next guy) and cause no lynches? Yeah man, makes sense.
Valar Morghulis
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
September 21 2011 20:08 GMT
#1260
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.
:3
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