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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
October 31 2010 06:39 GMT
#1201
Actually I misunderstood your question so disregard what I said.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
October 31 2010 06:45 GMT
#1202
I'm not sure if we should even try to derive any meaning from which player Artanis decided to replace. If I were the host, I would have RNG'd it in the interest of fairness.
Translator:3
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 31 2010 06:59 GMT
#1203
On October 31 2010 15:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
number 4 is probably little more than a jab at fox news. You're canadian so perhaps you aren't aware of it but "fair and balanced" is a joke at Fox's motto since they are well known for their conservative bias.

In fact me and Artanis were joking about them and the phrase just a few days ago on MSN.


Ah okay, hehe. I didn't realize that. =)

On October 31 2010 15:23 infinitestory wrote:
Don't forget about the booger-flinger. It seems clear that someone has the ability to neutralize a vote. Whoever that is, if you did it because you know who the "additional mafia vote" is, please claim.


Ah, I forgot to include my thoughts about that incident. These are the posts in question.

On October 31 2010 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Additional Mafia vote: ##DoctorHelvetica

On October 31 2010 08:05 LSB wrote:
SECRTZ MAFIA VOTE HAZ BEEN CAST =O


Note that LSB (the co-host) posted 1 minute after Artanis[Xp]. He seems really excited about the fact that the random mafia vote was cast. That's probably not too significant since I'd be excited too if I were co-host.

On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.


My initial thought was that the anonymous mafia voter was called down by his fellow mafiosos and "retracted" his vote. However, note that the term used was "negated". After thinking about this, I assume this means that the vote does not count and the anonymous mafia voter is unable to replace the vote.
I don't know if any of the hosts are able to confirm this hypothesis but I'd be grateful for more information. =)

To continue, this post does not exclude the possibility that the nose-picker is unaware of the true identity of the anonymous mafia voter. Consider this chain of events.

Let's say that I'm the nose-picker. (I'm not, by the way). Perhaps, my abilities involve blocking one vote of my choice every day or once per game.
I, as the nose-picker am checking on the voting thread.
I see a vote cast by some anonymous mafia member.
I decide to block the vote.

My comments:
- First, "He picked his nose and threw a booger" makes me think that the nose-picker is Fire Mario. I propose we now refer to him as Fire Mario.
- Second, if this scenario is true, then Fire Mario does not know who the anonymous mafia voter is.
- Third, if this scenario is true I hope that Fire Mario can use his ability more than once. Otherwise, that was a waste of a good ability.
- Finally, if Fire Mario has more uses AND is pro-town, then I push for him to stay hidden. Use your ability from the shadows to block who you think is scum.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 31 2010 07:06 GMT
#1204
Hi all.

I decided to roleclaim on day1, on someone I'd trust most. Since it was too confusing, I then decided to roleclaim after the mayor was picked, whoever it may be.

I am a doctor. However, the Mafia knows this. Here is why:

I was given the choice of the red pill or the blue pill. If I took the the red pill I would become a doctor, but the mafia is told of my role. If I took the blue pill, I would become a normal townie. I am allowed to protect myself as a doctor.

So, if you were mafia, then you would already know this.
If you're not, well I think I could be of help, but since Mafia knows of my role, I will try to protect myself as much as possible (denying a hit will be just as good as denying some other kill imo, unless we're sure the mafia honed in on a very important blue).

Also, I was thinking that since I'll be protecting myself during night one, I suggest that Dr.H poked me with his stick to see what happens. If I got infected, I can cure myself, if not, you can tell that I'm blue, (assuming nobody is infected yet) and you can tell what happens when you poke people with minimal risk.

This would also give some faith in you being what you claim you are, since the mafia vote was pretty suspicious (i'm thinking there could be more than one mafia do-gooder). But I'm not demanding that DrH pokes me, it was just a suggestion.

Cheers!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 31 2010 07:08 GMT
#1205
P.S.: I have also PMed Dr.H with this, since I didn't get to read that PMs were illegal unless both players were mafia. I hope this doesn't get me deadded, it won't happen again.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 07:11 GMT
#1206
To clarify I notified LSB/Artanis that CubEdIn PM'd me. I will post the log of our PM's to the town so you can see that he did not give me any information that he did not also post here.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sure, I understand.

But please mentioned that I posted in the thread shortly after I found that PMs were illegal, I don't wanna get modkilled so fast.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
You roleclaimed to me and gave me some pretty critical information.

This is of course very helpful to us as the town, what you have told me. but I can't in good conscience not tell Artanis.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From CubEdIn:
ah sorry, I just read the rule in the OP.

Worry not, I shall paste it in the thread.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
you know you can't pm right?

does your role allow you to pm people?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From CubEdIn:
Hi guy.

Seems that you're the mayor. Gratz.

I decided to roleclaim on day1, on someone I'd trust most. Since it was too confusing, I then decided to roleclaim to the mayor, whoever it may be.

I am a doctor. Nothing more, nothing less.
However, the Mafia knows this. Here is why:

I was given the choice of the red pill or the blue pill. If I took the the red pill I would become a doctor, but the mafia is told of my role. If I took the blue pill, I would become a normal townie. I am allowed to protect myself as a doctor.

So, if you were mafia, then you would already know this. If you're not, well I think I could be of help, but since Mafia knows of my role, I will try to protect myself as much as possible (denying a hit will be just as good as denying some other kill imo, unless we're sure the mafia honed in on a very important blue).

Also, I was thinking that since I'll be protecting myself during night one, I suggest you poke me with your stick to see what happens. If I get infected, I can cure myself, if not, you can tell that I'm blue, and you can tell what happens when you poke people with minimal risk.

This would also give me faith in you being what you claim you are, since the mafia vote was pretty suspicious (i'm thinking there could be more than one mafia do-gooder). But I'm not demanding that you poke me, it was just a suggestion.

Cheers!
RIP Aaliyah
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 31 2010 07:15 GMT
#1207
On October 31 2010 16:06 CubEdIn wrote:
Hi all.

I decided to roleclaim on day1, on someone I'd trust most. Since it was too confusing, I then decided to roleclaim after the mayor was picked, whoever it may be.

I am a doctor. However, the Mafia knows this. Here is why:

I was given the choice of the red pill or the blue pill. If I took the the red pill I would become a doctor, but the mafia is told of my role. If I took the blue pill, I would become a normal townie. I am allowed to protect myself as a doctor.

So, if you were mafia, then you would already know this.
If you're not, well I think I could be of help, but since Mafia knows of my role, I will try to protect myself as much as possible (denying a hit will be just as good as denying some other kill imo, unless we're sure the mafia honed in on a very important blue).

Also, I was thinking that since I'll be protecting myself during night one, I suggest that Dr.H poked me with his stick to see what happens. If I got infected, I can cure myself, if not, you can tell that I'm blue, (assuming nobody is infected yet) and you can tell what happens when you poke people with minimal risk.

This would also give some faith in you being what you claim you are, since the mafia vote was pretty suspicious (i'm thinking there could be more than one mafia do-gooder). But I'm not demanding that DrH pokes me, it was just a suggestion.

Cheers!


On October 31 2010 16:08 CubEdIn wrote:
P.S.: I have also PMed Dr.H with this, since I didn't get to read that PMs were illegal unless both players were mafia. I hope this doesn't get me deadded, it won't happen again.


EXACTLY WHEN did you PM DrH? I want to know how long he's had this information. This will help me to decide if he purposely withheld information and what his intentions were.

Also, what's the name of your Role? We need all the information that we can get.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 07:15 GMT
#1208
On October 31 2010 16:15 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 16:06 CubEdIn wrote:
Hi all.

I decided to roleclaim on day1, on someone I'd trust most. Since it was too confusing, I then decided to roleclaim after the mayor was picked, whoever it may be.

I am a doctor. However, the Mafia knows this. Here is why:

I was given the choice of the red pill or the blue pill. If I took the the red pill I would become a doctor, but the mafia is told of my role. If I took the blue pill, I would become a normal townie. I am allowed to protect myself as a doctor.

So, if you were mafia, then you would already know this.
If you're not, well I think I could be of help, but since Mafia knows of my role, I will try to protect myself as much as possible (denying a hit will be just as good as denying some other kill imo, unless we're sure the mafia honed in on a very important blue).

Also, I was thinking that since I'll be protecting myself during night one, I suggest that Dr.H poked me with his stick to see what happens. If I got infected, I can cure myself, if not, you can tell that I'm blue, (assuming nobody is infected yet) and you can tell what happens when you poke people with minimal risk.

This would also give some faith in you being what you claim you are, since the mafia vote was pretty suspicious (i'm thinking there could be more than one mafia do-gooder). But I'm not demanding that DrH pokes me, it was just a suggestion.

Cheers!


Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 16:08 CubEdIn wrote:
P.S.: I have also PMed Dr.H with this, since I didn't get to read that PMs were illegal unless both players were mafia. I hope this doesn't get me deadded, it won't happen again.


EXACTLY WHEN did you PM DrH? I want to know how long he's had this information. This will help me to decide if he purposely withheld information and what his intentions were.

Also, what's the name of your Role? We need all the information that we can get.


From my inbox "CubEdIn Insane Mafia 10/31 15:58"
RIP Aaliyah
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 31 2010 07:16 GMT
#1209
Roughly 5 minutes before I posted in the thread. He replied that PMs are illegal about 1 minute after I sent it, I read the rules and re-posted here.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 07:16 GMT
#1210
I responded firstly at the time of 10/31 16:01
RIP Aaliyah
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 31 2010 07:17 GMT
#1211
The name of my role is NEO!

Duh. :D
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 31 2010 07:19 GMT
#1212
Okay, the timeline seems to be legitimate. DrH had to have time to pass on information to Artanis to get a ruling as well as let CubEdIn post first.

CubEdIn, can you share with us the name of your Role? (I'm going to guess, Insane Neo Doctor or maybe... Morpheoso Doctor (if you were Red)).
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 31 2010 07:20 GMT
#1213
See above. The name is simply Neo.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 31 2010 07:21 GMT
#1214
And I believe that is because I got to choose if I were a doctor or nothing at all, Neo doctor wouldn't make much sense if I chose to be a simple townie.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 07:26 GMT
#1215
If mafia know who you are, because you chose the red pill, why didn't you simply claim to the entire town instead?

Was that due to the possibility that your role was insane and that mafia wouldn't actually be made aware?
RIP Aaliyah
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 31 2010 07:29 GMT
#1216
On October 31 2010 16:20 CubEdIn wrote:
See above. The name is simply Neo.


Thanks! I didn't see your response when I posted. I was close though. =)

So far, only one name has surfaced that is related to Bill Murray, Sticky.

My suggestion to you, DrH, is to think through this turn of events clearly. Whether you go through with it or not, we should all find out in the morning. It is in the mafia's best interest to mess this up in order to cast suspicion tomorrow. They are privy to our thoughts so don't announce your intentions in the thread.

CubEdIn, think about your plans. You can protect yourself tonight or if you think of an extremely reason to protect someone else, do so. It doesn't matter if DrH pokes you and then you're infected. You can cure yourself tomorrow, if need be.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 31 2010 07:31 GMT
#1217
I'm not going to poke CubEdIn due to the huge possibility that he will be modkilled. Unless a mod confirms that won't be the case, I'll probably poke him.
RIP Aaliyah
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
October 31 2010 07:34 GMT
#1218
On October 31 2010 16:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If mafia know who you are, because you chose the red pill, why didn't you simply claim to the entire town instead?

Was that due to the possibility that your role was insane and that mafia wouldn't actually be made aware?


That's a really good point. If he was insane then the mafia wouldn't know. However, if we continue with that line of thought, I think risk-analysis would say that it is better for him to tell everyone.

Case Neo: Mafia knows and town doesn't.
Best course of action: Tell the town

Insane Neo: No one knows but CubEdIn thinks the mafia do. His powers are limited by the paranoia.
Best course of action: Tell the town

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 31 2010 07:41 GMT
#1219
Well I wasn't going to claim to everyone because I wasn't 100% sure that the Mafia knows. And the post about the ADD Doctor made it even more likely that the mafia would not know.

Also, if I tell the town it would cause a lot of chaos, just like everyone did when they claimed. I would've much rather claim to someone who can at least partially confirm that I'm not red (like Dr.H).

I hope that I won't be modkilled though, it was an honest mistake, and was rectified almost immediately.
-_-
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 31 2010 08:17 GMT
#1220
Well it's mostly a rule because it's cheating and un-sportsman like. Since you were using it to neither end, I think you'll only get a warning.
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