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Here are your clues for Night 1:
The House numbers are arranged in a logical order.
Big Brother is watching you.
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Here are your clues for Night 1: The House numbers are arranged in a logical order. Big Brother is watching you. | ||
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TheCrimsonReaper
United States167 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
I am a Coroner. I feel no danger for me claiming because I think its quite obvious that I'm blue at this point. Even if no one claims after me, I'll still be alive unless mafia gets lucky or a lot of people spill a lot of beans. Mine is a bit weaker earlier because I require dead people to function, but I'll be very useful later. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
On August 17 2011 06:32 bumatlarge wrote: Me too, and palmar is town methinks. I think heist might have slipped or something on IRC cause after I suggested mafia would do better with all the traits in the open he said "three heads are better then one" where no one has mentioned mafia numbers. I mean 3 is a logical assumption but still puts him on my radar. Still waiting for syllo or deconduo to come back and explain the mafia KP. Oh very funny mafia. Guys I haven't been on IRC. Silly scum not knowing the difference between then/than. Bum why should everyone be roleclaiming? There's still an element of risk involved and it's not like we can trust anyone who claims. I sincerely hope no one rashly claims to these "blues", at least not yet. The one assumption that I'll make is that there is only 1 DT (which is a high probability for a 12 man game). The only person I'll trust is the DT and that's if no else counterclaims. | ||
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TheCrimsonReaper
United States167 Posts
On August 17 2011 07:13 heist wrote: Oh very funny mafia. Guys I haven't been on IRC. Silly scum not knowing the difference between then/than. Bum why should everyone be roleclaiming? There's still an element of risk involved and it's not like we can trust anyone who claims. I sincerely hope no one rashly claims to these "blues", at least not yet. The one assumption that I'll make is that there is only 1 DT (which is a high probability for a 12 man game). The only person I'll trust is the DT and that's if no else counterclaims. So you are denying having said anything on IRC? Does anyone have logs? Also why the hell would you trust a dt claim, you know nothing about the balance, maybe there are no dts at all... maybe there are two and two traitors to balance it out. Claims are unreliable because we have no way of verifying them, thus mafia is free to claim whatever they want. I for one have no intention of claiming unless its going to help the town. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
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heist
United States720 Posts
and yes I'm assuming we have a DT because it's a staple in almost all games. Of all the blue roles to be included I highly doubt cop will be excluded. So if one person claims cop I'm more inclined to believe him more than any other role. In a 12 man game, it's also highly unlikely that we have more than 1 cop. It'll be incredibly risky for mafia to fakeclaim cop, almost guaranteeing a 1 for 1 trade. But yeah those are the risks, you have to act on a little bit of assumption. Otherwise no one trusts any roleclaims and we are not abusing the trait mechanic at all nor are we consolidating any trait clues to try and beat mafia in the puzzle game. I still support ONLY the DT revealing himself because only the DT can confirm more townies and it's the most likely of roles. Because of the risks, however, i can understand if we are against putting all faith into the one person who claims DT. This is just my input because it has a lot of upside. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
If we all claim, by the time blues become capable of checking/protecting/shooting the right people consistently, they'll be dead. No claims please. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
so screw that, I'm just a townie. Can we lynch ON now? ##Vote OriginalName | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
Firstly, there is no guarantee that there is a cop in this game. There have been plenty of games on TL without cops/DTs, in favor of more Protection favoured roles, or more of the weaker investigative roles. Next, I was actually going to suggest revealing one of your traits so that blues could target people, but it seems that mafia can only target by trait as well. What do people think about getting specific scummy people to claim one of their traits before/during the night, if we want a vig/cop to shoot/check them? Mafia can't fake-claim, as all traits are used and unique, and they would be counter-claimed. The only fake-claim they can use, is the traits of one of their teammates, which doesn't really help them either, as they'll still come back red to a DT check, or else one of their scumbuddies will be dead, and town will get a 2 for 1 deal. Anyone flat-out refusing to give up a trait for check is probably scum, and can be lynched the next day. Any thoughts on this plan? I'm also interested in seeing if bum can provide logs of heist from IRC, and if anyone else in the IRC can confirm his allegations. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On August 17 2011 07:45 heist wrote: yes i deny. and yes I'm assuming we have a DT because it's a staple in almost all games. Of all the blue roles to be included I highly doubt cop will be excluded. So if one person claims cop I'm more inclined to believe him more than any other role. In a 12 man game, it's also highly unlikely that we have more than 1 cop. It'll be incredibly risky for mafia to fakeclaim cop, almost guaranteeing a 1 for 1 trade. But yeah those are the risks, you have to act on a little bit of assumption. Otherwise no one trusts any roleclaims and we are not abusing the trait mechanic at all nor are we consolidating any trait clues to try and beat mafia in the puzzle game. I still support ONLY the DT revealing himself because only the DT can confirm more townies and it's the most likely of roles. Because of the risks, however, i can understand if we are against putting all faith into the one person who claims DT. This is just my input because it has a lot of upside. Hm, with that said, I find it very hard to believe that what you say is true. You were never on at the same time, then to show up later and have the other one log off is fishy. And this is a a small scum slip thats very hard to plan. You didn't just outright say the number, you said "3 heads are better then 1". Sorry heist, I can't really go with your story unless someone else has verifiable proof otherwise. And the way that "heist" soft-defended syllo was odd as well. If that "heist" is confirmed scum, then it doesn't look good for syllo either. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
[16:36] <bumatlarge> for info [16:36] <bumatlarge> information that wouldn' [16:36] <bumatlarge> really affect [16:36] <bumatlarge> mafia knowing it [16:37] <bumatlarge> the only thing massclaiming does is letting mafia know how many and what blues we have [16:37] <bumatlarge> they cant do anything about it [16:40] <heist> right, but what if/when traits start to come out publicly, won't that help the mafia? [16:41] <bumatlarge> thats the part im trying to figure out [16:42] <bumatlarge> blues aren't useful unless someone reveals traits [16:42] <bumatlarge> and to reveal traits [16:42] <bumatlarge> means then mafia can start to work things out [16:42] <bumatlarge> a lot faster then town can [16:42] <heist> right, three heads working together [16:44] <bumatlarge> ? [16:44] <bumatlarge> we know there are three mafia? [16:44] <bumatlarge> :X [16:45] <heist> I assume [16:46] <heist> 12 people [16:46] <heist> standard [16:46] <heist> 2 would be too weak [16:46] <heist> 4 makes lylo too fast [16:46] <bumatlarge> yeah but we dont know if traitors are in play [16:47] <heist> right | ||
OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On August 17 2011 09:02 Palmar wrote: bum's claim is very easily verifiable. so screw that, I'm just a townie. Can we lynch ON now? ##Vote OriginalName Its night phase. So no you cant. Nor can you lynch me during the day, that would be a move that you would indeed regret ._. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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heist
United States720 Posts
Sneaky mafia. Well I have no idea who you were talking to bum but that wasn't me. Kinda creepy isn't it? Also what's this deal with soft-defending syllo? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On August 17 2011 11:11 heist wrote: Sneaky mafia. Well I have no idea who you were talking to bum but that wasn't me. Kinda creepy isn't it? Also what's this deal with soft-defending syllo? Because syllo asked that question with dec privately it got us thinking about why he would ask that, and we thought he might be mafia, when I told "you", you were pretty surprised and were very adamant on figuring why I suggested it. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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Sevryn
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