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On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.
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IdrA on the other hand has consistently made it far in MLGs, and is the perennial EG ace in teamleagues... I think its mostly a deserved difference in attention.
Nicely done!
Incontrol has consistently made it far in the MLGs too.. top 32 every time... that's not really a good indicator of anything other than MLG having a pretty bad competition format.
Lately Idra's lost a few of those team league games too.. his most recent loss against minigun comes to mind. Sure, he's a good player but the attention he gets -- what is it? 20K people watching him streaming regularly is absolutely undeserved imho.
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Poland375 Posts
The Liquipedia results say that JYP is playing PuMa in quarters. This is not correct.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Guangzhou
The bracket will be RANDOMLY generated based on the following rules, though:
1) Group first plays group second.
2) Players from the same group won't meet until the final.
This helps us avoid match fixing. Off the top of my head there are 9 different bracket options available with this rule set for playoffs.
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On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.
That's only my opinion however.
Good players that go far in the tournament have to mix in cheese too, they cant ALWAYS play macro, dont be ignorant
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On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway. I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet... Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 14:48 Yamulo wrote:On October 02 2011 14:43 s4life wrote:
Isn't it time we stop talking about Idra like if he was a top player? he's obviously just another zerg player right now.. stephano, nerchio and sheth have surpassed him already I know.. People just follow his name, and even though his results have been about even with jinros in tournament play his name sticks more. I really don't know why. I mean you could even argue (and by argue I mean state...) that 2 ro4 gsls + an mlg is better than mlg and ipl 1. In terms of outright wins maybe, but you have to keep in mind how much more relevant IdrA has been in the last..... I dont know, 6 months maybe? Basically I went through a really long period where I've just lost early almost every tournament, and not even felt confident enough to want to play in teamleagues. IdrA on the other hand has consistently made it far in MLGs, and is the perennial EG ace in teamleagues... I think its mostly a deserved difference in attention.
was the ace, both puma and demuslim are ahead nowadays according to inc.
gl against elfi <3
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On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.
That's only my opinion however.
Polt dismantled mma in a GSL finals by doing mid game attacks. It's called exploring your opponent weakness.
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On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.
That's only my opinion however.
You don't play a tournament to be honorable and nr20 or "cheese" play, you play the tournament to WIN, "cheese" or no "cheese", Jinro studied his opponent, Idra did not scout and it cost him the game.
If you find/see a weakness in your opponent you will be a fool not to exploit it, well played by Jinro and bad luck to Idra and hopefully he will take note of that game and up his scouting for future games.
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On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.
That's only my opinion however.
Yeah, its your opinion. Why don't you tell that to EffOrt or Boxer.
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On October 02 2011 14:59 Carmac wrote:The Liquipedia results say that JYP is playing PuMa in quarters. This is not correct. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_GuangzhouThe bracket will be RANDOMLY generated based on the following rules, though: 1) Group first plays group second. 2) Players from the same group won't meet until the final. This helps us avoid match fixing. Off the top of my head there are 9 different bracket options available with this rule set for playoffs.
Nice to know. Awsome event btw well done.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.
That's only my opinion however.
Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game.
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On October 02 2011 14:56 Mycl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 14:55 figq wrote:On October 02 2011 14:52 ForeverSleep wrote:On October 02 2011 14:50 figq wrote:On October 02 2011 14:43 sirreginold wrote:
Wow. went to the restroom and g3 is over already. Same here o_o what the hell happened in that game...? 2 rax from jinro and idra fails to defend, as usual in fact Thanks, it seems the key point was bunker placement - where did he place them? At the ramp down from the nat. 3 bunkers create a full wall off Haha, nice. Idra "loves" to be ramp contained like that. Wonder if drone mineral walk / attack helps against this as against pylons. But I guess he was too late and there was fire power in the bunkers that would just destroy drones if he tries that.
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On October 02 2011 14:56 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 14:53 minimat wrote:
Please carmac pleaseee stream Iaguz.. i somehow doubt they'll show him, as + Show Spoiler + he lost to Way (2:0) and i don't think many people want to see him
They really should be showing at least one game of every player, otherwise it's a terribly badly organised schedule.
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Lol the best banshee control has infiltrated china.
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Some of TheBest harass I've ever seen.
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Good Luck Jinro in the rest of your games!
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On October 02 2011 15:02 Jumbled wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 14:56 HolydaKing wrote:On October 02 2011 14:53 minimat wrote:
Please carmac pleaseee stream Iaguz.. i somehow doubt they'll show him, as + Show Spoiler + he lost to Way (2:0) and i don't think many people want to see him They really should be showing at least one game of every player, otherwise it's a terribly badly organised schedule.
Your opinion is flawed.
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
rotterdam and mr.bitter spitting truth bombs
the chinese players are so hyped when barely any people have seen them play sc2
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On October 02 2011 15:02 Jumbled wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 14:56 HolydaKing wrote:On October 02 2011 14:53 minimat wrote:
Please carmac pleaseee stream Iaguz.. i somehow doubt they'll show him, as + Show Spoiler + he lost to Way (2:0) and i don't think many people want to see him They really should be showing at least one game of every player, otherwise it's a terribly badly organised schedule.
uhh... i don't think so, i have hardly seen any tournament where every player of group stages was showed on the stream.
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So wait Terran can Triple Bunker Block off the Ramp on Shakuras and have tons of Marines rallied in which is much easier to do as a Terran than a Zerg attempting to Defend it because they can micro their marines and rofl.
(Hidden maka Rax that u have won't always scout cause they could put it anywhere)
Then the Terran can Pump scv's and not be all-in and become vastly ahead economically ... Doesn't sound right Just seems like broken mechanics able to pressure like that and be Economically Strong... Terran has OPTIONS zerg Doesn't GG
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Well played, Jinro
![[image loading]](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/toddkw/jinroedit.jpg)
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Strelok just building a bunker at Way's natural, no big deal.
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EPT
