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Magic Woods9326 Posts
On January 05 2014 23:54 Boonbag wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 21:52 Epoxide wrote:On January 05 2014 19:49 Boonbag wrote:
Sea 1# is like 3 months lag.
Sea should be like 4 or 5
edit : guess sea fandom is powerful
edit2 : besides not making piano like 3# or 6# is like saying "i didnt watch snipe at all the past weeks / months"
atm it should look like that :
bisu / piano / killer / shuttle / mong / sea / jaehoon > first tier (hiya & jangbang depending on the week)
larva / movie / hero / sky / britney / zero / ssak > second tier
edit : ruining magnificient OP formating with disastrous ranking no =( It's a SOSPA ranking, not a fucking fish ranking just check http://www.fishbattle.net/rank_ladderWOW SHINEE #1 EVERY FUCKING WEEK, douchebag says BW power rank.... lenmata's posts a little above mine is pretty instructive too besides the competitive field changed alot the last few months if you only account for "official" games then why not count as well balloon matches ? what i mean is that "only sospa" in itself isn't reflecting the true skill of every player atm as it doesnt picture properly the whole field your ranking is actually more like "pre retirement wave sospa ranking" or "2013 sospa ranking"
The image says SOSPA Top 10, and the power rank is taking results from last pr to this one.
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I missed the "sospa top 10".
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On January 05 2014 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Pff hero #4 behind bisu? Ridiculous, bisu played all of 13 games and only 3 PvZs, lost to hero, only won vs noob zergs. No titles, nothing to show. Hero with 100% winrate vs protoss except last couple games for 4 months, only dropping ZvZ vs Killer and once vs beast (and Killer is definitely better ZvZ), and a pretty decent winrate vs terran, hero definitely deserves to play higher than bisu. Bisu fanboyism placing him so high when he has yet to prove himself in SOSPA, definitely premature.
Much as I may hate it, Killer losing always vs Sea is a valid reason to place Sea higher, but if Killer starts winning when they meet then I think he'd take #1 spot for sure, they're both outstanding players though.
Lol? Bisu fanboyism from 2Pac? Did you see how much Bisu got talked down throughout the article? I was going to come in here and claim this a product of a Bisu ANTI-fan. Bisu's placement is fair because results are not as important as actual play. Please, stop with the shameful bias.
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Magic Woods9326 Posts
On January 06 2014 03:02 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Pff hero #4 behind bisu? Ridiculous, bisu played all of 13 games and only 3 PvZs, lost to hero, only won vs noob zergs. No titles, nothing to show. Hero with 100% winrate vs protoss except last couple games for 4 months, only dropping ZvZ vs Killer and once vs beast (and Killer is definitely better ZvZ), and a pretty decent winrate vs terran, hero definitely deserves to play higher than bisu. Bisu fanboyism placing him so high when he has yet to prove himself in SOSPA, definitely premature.
Much as I may hate it, Killer losing always vs Sea is a valid reason to place Sea higher, but if Killer starts winning when they meet then I think he'd take #1 spot for sure, they're both outstanding players though. Lol? Bisu fanboyism from 2Pac? Did you see how much Bisu got talked down throughout the article? I was going to come in here and claim this a product of a Bisu ANTI-fan.
I was planning on placing Bisu on like sixth, but I had to acknowledge how scary he is right now
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United States10219 Posts
On January 05 2014 09:12 StarStruck wrote:Sorry Flash, There is a new God in town. ![[image loading]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/WebbyMom/Smileys/Happy-Laughing/Laie_67.gif)
how dare you.
BW back and here to stay. :D sea is a beast.
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On January 06 2014 01:01 hariooo wrote:
You get to pick a player versus any other randomly chosen BW player. If your chosen player loses, you get castrated. Otherwise you keep the family jewels.
I can't see people not picking Bisu so he's #1.
I'd pick Killer still.
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On January 06 2014 01:07 Sayle wrote:
no zelot? joke ranking
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/anmOUc8.jpg)
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Canada11367 Posts
Vehement arguements over BW Power Ranking.
All is right with the world.
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United States11392 Posts
On January 05 2014 13:57 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 10:56 Harem wrote:On January 05 2014 09:58 Birdie wrote:On January 05 2014 09:39 Harem wrote:On January 05 2014 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Pff hero #4 behind bisu? Ridiculous, bisu played all of 13 games and only 3 PvZs, lost to hero, only won vs noob zergs. No titles, nothing to show. Hero with 100% winrate vs protoss except last couple games for 4 months, only dropping ZvZ vs Killer and once vs beast (and Killer is definitely better ZvZ), and a pretty decent winrate vs terran, hero definitely deserves to play higher than bisu. Bisu fanboyism placing him so high when he has yet to prove himself in SOSPA, definitely premature.
Much as I may hate it, Killer losing always vs Sea is a valid reason to place Sea higher, but if Killer starts winning when they meet then I think he'd take #1 spot for sure, they're both outstanding players though. Hero's zvt and zvz are as mediocre as they get. (and Killer and Zero have better zvp when Zero isnt being a depressing emo) You should be instead be glad that Hero is placed as high as he is cause it probably won't last especially with the amount of terrans lately. Hero almost super threw the game vs Bisu on Jade too by letting Bisu break out of contain much easier than should have happened. He kept majority of lurkers clumped in a location where goon/ht will easily whittle them away. He also only sent a single scourge to kill obs when he had plenty more just outside the contain. Hero mediocre ZvZ? He only ever loses consistently to Killer. For almost the ENTIRE of 2013 he only lost to Killer and one game to beast, he won every other ZvZ. And he won a fair few vs Killer too. In fact, hero has the best ZvZ winrate of any player against Killer, with only Cola and Beast even taking games off Killer. And while his ZvT appears lacking, if you actually look at his wins/losses he wins quite a lot vs top terrans, he just doesn't have as dominant a ZvT as Killer. He's still easily second best Zerg in SOSPA and third best player, no question. If you are going to quote stats then at least get them right, (This is all from this year which you specified) He lost a bo3 2-0 to Larva in SRT 11. He lost a bo5 3-2 to Beast in very same SRT11. In SRT12, he yet again lost to Beast 3-2. He also dropped a game to Zelot in the SSL Seeding Match and then dropped another game to Zelot when he lost 3-1. He also dropped another game to Beast in recent PL game. That isn't dropping "1 game" to zergs not Killer. It was also a bit misleading to try and frame it like you did when he didnt have broadcasted zvz games for so many months. Plus, he even loses bo3 zvz to Sziky who is good but not #4 in SOSPA good. I wasnt even just referring to his sospa games (or meant statistics) when I made original post either. I was talking about his gameplay itself as I watch his stream a lot. Majority of the time it's standard, uninspired zvz or zvt while getting rolled. Besides his burrow openings that he rarely does zvt, it's super easy to anticipate what he will do and counter accordingly hence why you see Ssak do so well vs Hero but so badly vs Killer. Zergs in general will keep falling further and further down the rankings especially if Killer keeps up his current super lax practice routine and Zero's mentality continues to be at a level that makes Idra's look like Jaedong. Hero isnt the hero that the zerg race needs. :< I said "almost" the entire of 2013, the games he lost were at the very start. No other Zerg has anywhere near the ZvZ results of hero, except for Killer. And ladder games don't count for much at all. As for his ZvT, sure it's bad but he still gets decent results, not many other Zerg have results as good or better vs T. I'd agree that his ZvP is much better than his ZvT and ZvZ, from watching his stream it seems like the reason for that is cos he plays a whole lot more ZvP than other matchups though. If he actually sat down and focused hard on learning his weaker matchups I could see him becoming very strong. But given his results I don't think anyone else deserves #3 spot like he does. sSak and Bisu have the potential to get it soon if they keep doing as well as they are but they're not there yet.
Being #2 zvt nowadays is like being married to Sayle while having the biggest boobs ever. It's worthless. The gap between Killer and all the other zergs in zvt is as depressing as it gets. (made even more depressing by fact that killer is barely practicing nowadays which could make him very snipable)
Hero has also spent a lot of time while streaming trying to focus on his zvt especially after all those times he got knocked out by terrans. It's not magically going to get better to point where he will ever win something big. He has pretty much peaked in terms of where his zvt can go and the amount of terrans nowadays just keeps growing.
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On January 06 2014 06:31 Harem wrote:Being #2 zvt nowadays is like being married to Sayle while having the biggest boobs ever. It's worthless.
Can someone explain this for me? My best guess is that Sayle doesn't have hands, but that doesn't seem to fit the context.
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On January 05 2014 20:04 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 19:08 lemmata wrote:On January 05 2014 16:03 thezanursic wrote:
Bisu shouldn't be 3rd... Not enough games played. I mean Bisu totally has a shot at 1. and even SSL 9, but he still hasn't proven himself definitively. I dunno, Bisu has apparently played 442 games vs Afreeca BJs and won 303. 25:19 vs Sea, 18:8 vs Killer, 26:11 vs Hero, 20:3 vs sSak (other players in the power rank top 5). That's seems enough to justify ranking Bisu #1 if we are just trying to guess the player's condition over the last 2-3 months. Where did you find those stats?
I am also interested, about the source, for these stats.
Edit: I just noticed the 20:3, what the hell is wrong with ssak..
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On January 06 2014 07:00 miercat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 20:04 endy wrote:On January 05 2014 19:08 lemmata wrote:On January 05 2014 16:03 thezanursic wrote:
Bisu shouldn't be 3rd... Not enough games played. I mean Bisu totally has a shot at 1. and even SSL 9, but he still hasn't proven himself definitively. I dunno, Bisu has apparently played 442 games vs Afreeca BJs and won 303. 25:19 vs Sea, 18:8 vs Killer, 26:11 vs Hero, 20:3 vs sSak (other players in the power rank top 5). That's seems enough to justify ranking Bisu #1 if we are just trying to guess the player's condition over the last 2-3 months. Where did you find those stats? I am also interested, about the source, for these stats.
Afreeca fans keep track of this for their favorites.
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Oh yeeeeea
Love reading these again
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Sea clearly deserves the #1
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On January 06 2014 07:00 miercat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2014 20:04 endy wrote:On January 05 2014 19:08 lemmata wrote:On January 05 2014 16:03 thezanursic wrote:
Bisu shouldn't be 3rd... Not enough games played. I mean Bisu totally has a shot at 1. and even SSL 9, but he still hasn't proven himself definitively. I dunno, Bisu has apparently played 442 games vs Afreeca BJs and won 303. 25:19 vs Sea, 18:8 vs Killer, 26:11 vs Hero, 20:3 vs sSak (other players in the power rank top 5). That's seems enough to justify ranking Bisu #1 if we are just trying to guess the player's condition over the last 2-3 months. Where did you find those stats? I am also interested, about the source, for these stats. Edit: I just noticed the 20:3, what the hell is wrong with ssak..
Original Source from Bisu's channel: One of the many Bisu Cult followers kept track of every single Bisu game from the day he first descended to the Afreecan continent from the skies after being dropped by his Holy Speed Shuttle. He supposedly has maps, dates and times for everything.
2013 Bisu vs BJ Terran 228G 156W 72L(68.4%)
Bisu 25 :19 Sea
Bisu 13 :14 hiya
Bisu 32 :13 Mong
Bisu 20 : 3 sSak
Bisu 17 : 1 Shinee
Bisu 16 :12 Mind
Bisu 3 : 0 kkong
Bisu 5 : 1 Ample
Bisu 16 : 4 Piano
Bisu 9 : 4 Light
2013 Bisu vs BJ Zerg 168G 117W 51L(69.6%)
Bisu 22 :15 larva
Bisu 26 :11 hero
Bisu 18 : 8 killer
Bisu 16 : 1 Terror
Bisu 4 : 1 s2
Bisu 4 : 2 Snail
Bisu 19 :12 ZerO
Bisu 3 : 0 Zergman
Bisu 3 : 1 beast
Bisu 2 : 0 Kwanro
2013 Bisu vs BJ Protoss 46G 30W 16L(65.2%)
Bisu 3 : 6 Movie
Bisu 3 : 3 Shuttle
Bisu 4 : 0 Jaehoon
Bisu 2 : 4 Lazy
Bisu 3 : 0 Pure
Bisu 1 : 0 Hint
Bisu 1 : 0 Brave
Bisu 2 : 0 Tyson
Bisu 2 : 0 Pusan
Bisu 4 : 1 Mini
Bisu 1 : 2 Sky
Bisu 4 : 0 Jangbi
2013 Bisu vs BJ Overall Record 442G 303W 139L(68.5%)
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Bisu 22 :15 larva
Interesting.. larva has a better vP than I thought.
Also, lazy fighting!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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Tyson is SillyToss. Bisu hwaiting!
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On January 06 2014 08:55 lemmata wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 07:00 miercat wrote:On January 05 2014 20:04 endy wrote:On January 05 2014 19:08 lemmata wrote:On January 05 2014 16:03 thezanursic wrote:
Bisu shouldn't be 3rd... Not enough games played. I mean Bisu totally has a shot at 1. and even SSL 9, but he still hasn't proven himself definitively. I dunno, Bisu has apparently played 442 games vs Afreeca BJs and won 303. 25:19 vs Sea, 18:8 vs Killer, 26:11 vs Hero, 20:3 vs sSak (other players in the power rank top 5). That's seems enough to justify ranking Bisu #1 if we are just trying to guess the player's condition over the last 2-3 months. Where did you find those stats? I am also interested, about the source, for these stats. Edit: I just noticed the 20:3, what the hell is wrong with ssak.. Original Source from Bisu's channel: One of the many Bisu Cult followers kept track of every single Bisu game from the day he first descended to the Afreecan continent from the skies after being dropped by his Holy Speed Shuttle. He supposedly has maps, dates and times for everything. Show nested quote +2013 Bisu vs BJ Terran 228G 156W 72L(68.4%)
Bisu 25 :19 Sea
Bisu 13 :14 hiya
Bisu 32 :13 Mong
Bisu 20 : 3 sSak
Bisu 17 : 1 Shinee
Bisu 16 :12 Mind
Bisu 3 : 0 kkong
Bisu 5 : 1 Ample
Bisu 16 : 4 Piano
Bisu 9 : 4 Light
2013 Bisu vs BJ Zerg 168G 117W 51L(69.6%)
Bisu 22 :15 larva
Bisu 26 :11 hero
Bisu 18 : 8 killer
Bisu 16 : 1 Terror
Bisu 4 : 1 s2
Bisu 4 : 2 Snail
Bisu 19 :12 ZerO
Bisu 3 : 0 Zergman
Bisu 3 : 1 beast
Bisu 2 : 0 Kwanro
2013 Bisu vs BJ Protoss 46G 30W 16L(65.2%)
Bisu 3 : 6 Movie
Bisu 3 : 3 Shuttle
Bisu 4 : 0 Jaehoon
Bisu 2 : 4 Lazy
Bisu 3 : 0 Pure
Bisu 1 : 0 Hint
Bisu 1 : 0 Brave
Bisu 2 : 0 Tyson
Bisu 2 : 0 Pusan
Bisu 4 : 1 Mini
Bisu 1 : 2 Sky
Bisu 4 : 0 Jangbi
2013 Bisu vs BJ Overall Record 442G 303W 139L(68.5%)
Bisu will destroy everyone in 2014, including the feelings of the biased Power Rank writers waahahaha
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EPT
