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Btw Stephano best Zerg in this tour period. He displayed some awesome micro while still having a solid macro. I miss that with a lot of zergs.
Idra is just life-tilt should take a break imo its pretty sad to see him fail 
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On June 26 2011 06:28 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:27 Denzil wrote:On June 26 2011 06:22 wxwx wrote:On June 26 2011 06:12 rareh wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 stafu wrote:On June 26 2011 06:04 Allwars wrote:On June 26 2011 05:59 Kraznaya wrote:On June 26 2011 05:58 Allwars wrote:
Really disappointed with the comments from Naama, Thorzain..etc.. to IdrA, they definitely crossed the line there, that's not smart healthy trolling, that's just being a dick. What goes around comes around. Especially to Idra and his fans. :D No, it's not near the same. His attitude in this tournament has been perfect mannered, he gg'ed every single game also when he won. And he obtains laughter and bad manners from the others, it's not fair. I don't care what he might or not have said to them in private, but he is smart enough to not bm in public, opposite of the others. There have been plenty of games he hasn't gg'd in, including the final game vs HuK where he even just said 'lol' and leaves, with HuK sitting directly in front of him. I really don't get Idra's fanboys. You go on and on about him for his attitude then whine when the repercussions roll around. You want that reputation, then you also have to deal with the consequences of acting like a dick to those around you. If Idra is one, then so is MC , slashing throats, provoking opponents, thumbing down etc Much worse then simply not saying "gg". People love to hate idra, i get it, they wish they had his skill, all haters are jealous. Don't even compare MC to idra. MC is a much better player, cooler guy, funnier personality, way more people like him, and has so much fewer haters. Mc fan boys ruining LR threads. Lmao I believe it's general IdrA fans/haters that ruin LR threads, MC fans rarely cause any uproar.
MC does it to entertain, for the joy of the game. Idra does it because he's an insecure personality. You might notice that MC performs ceremonies out of joy when he wins, and all the controversies about manner that Idra creates are when he loses.
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On June 26 2011 06:28 Legend` wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:25 damod wrote:On June 26 2011 06:22 wxwx wrote:On June 26 2011 06:12 rareh wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 stafu wrote:On June 26 2011 06:04 Allwars wrote:On June 26 2011 05:59 Kraznaya wrote:On June 26 2011 05:58 Allwars wrote:
Really disappointed with the comments from Naama, Thorzain..etc.. to IdrA, they definitely crossed the line there, that's not smart healthy trolling, that's just being a dick. What goes around comes around. Especially to Idra and his fans. :D No, it's not near the same. His attitude in this tournament has been perfect mannered, he gg'ed every single game also when he won. And he obtains laughter and bad manners from the others, it's not fair. I don't care what he might or not have said to them in private, but he is smart enough to not bm in public, opposite of the others. There have been plenty of games he hasn't gg'd in, including the final game vs HuK where he even just said 'lol' and leaves, with HuK sitting directly in front of him. I really don't get Idra's fanboys. You go on and on about him for his attitude then whine when the repercussions roll around. You want that reputation, then you also have to deal with the consequences of acting like a dick to those around you. If Idra is one, then so is MC , slashing throats, provoking opponents, thumbing down etc Much worse then simply not saying "gg". People love to hate idra, i get it, they wish they had his skill, all haters are jealous. Don't even compare MC to idra. MC is a much better player, cooler guy, funnier personality, way more people like him, and has so much fewer haters. MC is much more worse than idra IMO. I actually thought you were trolling until I went through your past posts and realize 9/10 of them have something to do with Idra. :|
And that means he isn't trolling?
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On June 26 2011 06:25 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer. IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson... Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive
Idra absolutely dominated 3 games out of 5 against Tarson. Also previous results speaks in favor of Idra.
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On June 26 2011 06:28 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:25 Heavenly wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 Vaeila wrote:On June 26 2011 06:11 Heavenly wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 Irave wrote:On June 26 2011 06:06 Heavenly wrote:
Well MC has pretty much got this. Naniwa might have pulled a 2-1 but I don't see MC losing a bo7 to him. So you are just going to write Huk out of this totally then? Even though he has the best chance to win it currently. Right, should've rephrased that to include Huk as well. I don't see Huk winning either. Naniwa pretty much won 3 games against MC, only 1 small obs mis-micro lost him the game, how exactly do you not see him winning a Bo7 vs MC? Every PvP is decided by small things. MC has seen that Naniwa heavily favors robo tech into fast colossi (does the same in almost all matchups) and MC will show why no one in Korea seems to want to go colossi. With MC having the chance to look over the replays and see what timings he could have had and why he lost game three I don't see him falling again. He was in a superior position in game 3 until he got out-upgraded and his generic safe composition got countered by Naniwa's. Only if you assume that Naniwa is just going to do the same thing again. Naniwa have done heavy blink play in the past, dts which seem popular atm. I do hold MC as the favorite if they meet in the final but I can easily see Naniwa winning a bo7 with the advantage of winner bracket.
We'll see, it's a volatile matchup and I'm not going to argue that Nani can take games off MC. I just find it highly unlikely. No one has a 100% win rate so MC is not going to always win, but when the series is longer the better player is more and more likely to win, and I think MC is the better PvPer. Definitely look forward to it, MC will only start down one game. Though Huk could always beat Naniwa and Huk v MC would be interesting.
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On June 26 2011 06:30 Steamroller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:25 Poopi wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer. IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson... Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive Idra absolutely dominated 3 games out of 5 against Tarson. Also previous results speaks in favor of Idra.
Doesn't matter, right now Tarson is the better player. He won.
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On June 26 2011 06:28 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:27 Denzil wrote:On June 26 2011 06:22 wxwx wrote:On June 26 2011 06:12 rareh wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 stafu wrote:On June 26 2011 06:04 Allwars wrote:On June 26 2011 05:59 Kraznaya wrote:On June 26 2011 05:58 Allwars wrote:
Really disappointed with the comments from Naama, Thorzain..etc.. to IdrA, they definitely crossed the line there, that's not smart healthy trolling, that's just being a dick. What goes around comes around. Especially to Idra and his fans. :D No, it's not near the same. His attitude in this tournament has been perfect mannered, he gg'ed every single game also when he won. And he obtains laughter and bad manners from the others, it's not fair. I don't care what he might or not have said to them in private, but he is smart enough to not bm in public, opposite of the others. There have been plenty of games he hasn't gg'd in, including the final game vs HuK where he even just said 'lol' and leaves, with HuK sitting directly in front of him. I really don't get Idra's fanboys. You go on and on about him for his attitude then whine when the repercussions roll around. You want that reputation, then you also have to deal with the consequences of acting like a dick to those around you. If Idra is one, then so is MC , slashing throats, provoking opponents, thumbing down etc Much worse then simply not saying "gg". People love to hate idra, i get it, they wish they had his skill, all haters are jealous. Don't even compare MC to idra. MC is a much better player, cooler guy, funnier personality, way more people like him, and has so much fewer haters. Mc fan boys ruining LR threads. Lmao I believe it's general IdrA fans/haters that ruin LR threads, MC fans rarely cause any uproar.
TBH MC(any korean player infact) fans can also be quite annoying with their whine whenever a good korean looses to foreigner
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wow can you guys plz stfu about idra
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On June 26 2011 06:30 Steamroller wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:25 Poopi wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer. IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson... Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive Idra absolutely dominated 3 games out of 5 against Tarson. Also previous results speaks in favor of Idra.
It's times like this that MLG's dumb extended series rule isn't so dumb.
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On June 26 2011 06:31 Karakaxe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:30 Steamroller wrote:On June 26 2011 06:25 Poopi wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer. IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson... Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive Idra absolutely dominated 3 games out of 5 against Tarson. Also previous results speaks in favor of Idra. Doesn't matter, right now Tarson is the better player. He won.
In MlG colombus in the lower bracket they didn't do thing like if the past opponents won 2 games, he just needed to win one more game to close the bo3?
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On June 26 2011 05:44 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 05:43 Imascotsman wrote:
LOL at everyone laughing when idras ggs. This event is a total blast! Ya that was a great touch. Imagine hearing all the pros when he gged to MMA.
I was actually sitting directly behind the entire EG team when that happened. They were as shocked as everybody else. The other pros in the area weren't making noise either. Everyone was just stone silent.
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On June 26 2011 06:31 Karakaxe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:30 Steamroller wrote:On June 26 2011 06:25 Poopi wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer. IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson... Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive Idra absolutely dominated 3 games out of 5 against Tarson. Also previous results speaks in favor of Idra. Doesn't matter, right now Tarson is the better player. He won.
It's 3-2 for Idra today so that makes Idra better lol.
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On June 26 2011 06:23 Kraznaya wrote:
I don't know why people keep harping on Idra's mentality so much. The truth about Idra is that he's just vastly overrated - at least in comparison to the size of his fanbase - and he tends to lose in the most spectacular ways. People saying his "mentality" is the only weakness to his playing style are vastly overestimating an overhyped Brood War B teamer who never saw the light of day.
idra wasn't over hyped in broodwar. he trained so hard on the CJ b-team, lost to trap 1-2 in a very standard macro TvP in the GOMTV classic 2 in the first round, and basically dominated every single amateur foreigner event after he'd been training professionally for three years in korea. minus his fluke loss to nony in TSL3, is there a single amateur event that idra participated in he didn't dominate? plus his liquibition loss to f91 doesn't count because it was laggy and f91 is a pro in china anyways.
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On June 26 2011 06:23 Kraznaya wrote:
I don't know why people keep harping on Idra's mentality so much. The truth about Idra is that he's just vastly overrated - at least in comparison to the size of his fanbase - and he tends to lose in the most spectacular ways. People saying his "mentality" is the only weakness to his playing style are vastly overestimating an overhyped Brood War B teamer who never saw the light of day.
This. He's a good player of course, but he's no better than an average Code S Korean, even when his mentality isn't pulling him down. And lately he seems to be getting worse, presumably due to suboptimal practice conditions and being lazy/arrogant.
So many Koreans were better BW players too, I don't know why people even bring up his BW history :/
idra wasn't over hyped in broodwar. he trained so hard on the CJ b-team, lost to trap 1-2 in a very standard macro TvP in the GOMTV classic 2 in the first round, and basically dominated every single amateur foreigner event after he'd been training professionally for three years in korea. minus his fluke loss to nony in TSL3, is there a single amateur event that idra participated in he didn't dominate? plus his liquibition loss to f91 doesn't count because it was laggy and f91 is a pro in china anyways.
Idra, and Nony, are overhyped in BW because they were only good for foreigners. Best kid in the special class and all that? Loads of Koreans are former BW players, and many of them were better than Idra ever was.
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If there was extended series Idra would have won!
Of course I'm only joking :D. Great tournament, and I love the casual atmosphere. Wonderful casting by the pro gamers too.
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On June 26 2011 06:31 Karakaxe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:30 Steamroller wrote:On June 26 2011 06:25 Poopi wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer. IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson... Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive Idra absolutely dominated 3 games out of 5 against Tarson. Also previous results speaks in favor of Idra. Doesn't matter, right now Tarson is the better player. He won.
Naniwa is a better player than MC right?
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On June 26 2011 06:32 rekoJ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:31 Karakaxe wrote:On June 26 2011 06:30 Steamroller wrote:On June 26 2011 06:25 Poopi wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer. IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson... Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive Idra absolutely dominated 3 games out of 5 against Tarson. Also previous results speaks in favor of Idra. Doesn't matter, right now Tarson is the better player. He won. In MlG colombus in the lower bracket they didn't do thing like if the past opponents won 2 games, he just needed to win one more game to close the bo3?
No it gets converted to a bo7 So it starts 2-0/2-1
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On June 26 2011 06:09 BlindDruid wrote:
Fun facts:
Stephano says WP!
TL: WHAT no GG? BM
Stephano says: Gratz!
TL: WHAT? NO GG to MC? BM!
IdrA loses with no GG.
"commentators suck"
Interesting to read - to say the least XD
Fun fact: Those aren't the same people. Believe me.
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On June 26 2011 06:32 rekoJ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:31 Karakaxe wrote:On June 26 2011 06:30 Steamroller wrote:On June 26 2011 06:25 Poopi wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer. IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson... Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive Idra absolutely dominated 3 games out of 5 against Tarson. Also previous results speaks in favor of Idra. Doesn't matter, right now Tarson is the better player. He won. In MlG colombus in the lower bracket they didn't do thing like if the past opponents won 2 games, he just needed to win one more game to close the bo3?
they resumed the old bo3 as a bo7.
the game between idra and tarson would have been there a 2:0 lead in a bo7 for idra, so idra would have needed 2 wins, tarson 4.
but only mlg uses this system :o
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On June 26 2011 06:31 JAN0L wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:28 Heavenly wrote:On June 26 2011 06:27 Denzil wrote:On June 26 2011 06:22 wxwx wrote:On June 26 2011 06:12 rareh wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 stafu wrote:On June 26 2011 06:04 Allwars wrote:On June 26 2011 05:59 Kraznaya wrote:On June 26 2011 05:58 Allwars wrote:
Really disappointed with the comments from Naama, Thorzain..etc.. to IdrA, they definitely crossed the line there, that's not smart healthy trolling, that's just being a dick. What goes around comes around. Especially to Idra and his fans. :D No, it's not near the same. His attitude in this tournament has been perfect mannered, he gg'ed every single game also when he won. And he obtains laughter and bad manners from the others, it's not fair. I don't care what he might or not have said to them in private, but he is smart enough to not bm in public, opposite of the others. There have been plenty of games he hasn't gg'd in, including the final game vs HuK where he even just said 'lol' and leaves, with HuK sitting directly in front of him. I really don't get Idra's fanboys. You go on and on about him for his attitude then whine when the repercussions roll around. You want that reputation, then you also have to deal with the consequences of acting like a dick to those around you. If Idra is one, then so is MC , slashing throats, provoking opponents, thumbing down etc Much worse then simply not saying "gg". People love to hate idra, i get it, they wish they had his skill, all haters are jealous. Don't even compare MC to idra. MC is a much better player, cooler guy, funnier personality, way more people like him, and has so much fewer haters. Mc fan boys ruining LR threads. Lmao I believe it's general IdrA fans/haters that ruin LR threads, MC fans rarely cause any uproar. TBH MC(any korean player infact) fans can also be quite annoying with their whine whenever a good korean looses to foreigner
I'm a big MC fan myself so of course I'm biased, but I have almost never seen a LR go to shit when MC has lost. There might be excuses made for him but no one whines. It's the opposite, one MC lost to Naniwa this thread got extremely obnoxious with pro-foreigners/anti-Korean sentiments.
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