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On June 26 2011 06:16 VicTimEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:16 TanGeng wrote:
Hmmm is there usually so much unwarranted whining in these LR threads? Argh. There's so little substance. Just asking if I should really temper my expectations.
That said, that was a fun casual commentary and certainly a different flavor from the cerebral or the excitement based commentary. Nice to see the players have fun. As soon as IdrA loses every LR-thread ends in a shitstorm sadly.
Unfortunately this.
I remember the NASL LR threads where he lost to zenio in a macro game and zenio "just coin flipped after getting outplayed" I like Idra's playstyle for the most part, he's very refined, but he seems to tilt far too easily and almost defeats himself while there happens to be someone playing against him. If he learned to control his emotions a little bit better, he could be the unstoppable killing machine from the first day of Columbus every time he played.
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Does anyone know where to find the vods?
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On June 26 2011 06:19 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:17 ellirc wrote:
How are Nani's chances against HuK? Like really. Imo he should be able to win a BO5 since he managed to beat MC but then again HuK claims to be beating MC all the time in practice... I'd give the edge to Nani here, his PvP just seems a lot better. The thing in HuK's favour though is that he's on a roll atm, so he might have a lot of confidence and his usually shaky PvP might get a boost because of that. Looking forward to the series no matter who wins  !
It's going to be so interesting. I feel that Naniwa has the superior BO/macro, micro-wise I really don't know who is better.
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On June 26 2011 06:16 aut0mati0n wrote:He held?
I've known from Tarson last year(september to novembre that he was a beast in the TvT match up. When Terran was dominating every online tournaments in Europe(Go4sc2), Kas was the best rival of Tarson.
Plus the fact that Tarson is very used to Lan events(IEM Cologne + Europe + World) and some other lans(France and Europe).
There is no suprise that he beats the young Thorzain
And maybe to answer more correctly :D, I think he used the common strat in TvT Marine, Medivac Tank, Viking :p
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On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer.
Nah he's not, he just lost a bo3 to Tarson .
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On June 26 2011 06:12 rareh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:07 stafu wrote:On June 26 2011 06:04 Allwars wrote:On June 26 2011 05:59 Kraznaya wrote:On June 26 2011 05:58 Allwars wrote:
Really disappointed with the comments from Naama, Thorzain..etc.. to IdrA, they definitely crossed the line there, that's not smart healthy trolling, that's just being a dick. What goes around comes around. Especially to Idra and his fans. :D No, it's not near the same. His attitude in this tournament has been perfect mannered, he gg'ed every single game also when he won. And he obtains laughter and bad manners from the others, it's not fair. I don't care what he might or not have said to them in private, but he is smart enough to not bm in public, opposite of the others. There have been plenty of games he hasn't gg'd in, including the final game vs HuK where he even just said 'lol' and leaves, with HuK sitting directly in front of him. I really don't get Idra's fanboys. You go on and on about him for his attitude then whine when the repercussions roll around. You want that reputation, then you also have to deal with the consequences of acting like a dick to those around you. If Idra is one, then so is MC , slashing throats, provoking opponents, thumbing down etc Much worse then simply not saying "gg". People love to hate idra, i get it, they wish they had his skill, all haters are jealous.
Don't even compare MC to idra. MC is a much better player, cooler guy, funnier personality, way more people like him, and has so much fewer haters.
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On June 26 2011 06:20 ODieN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:18 zeru wrote:On June 26 2011 06:16 ODieN wrote:On June 26 2011 06:16 frozenrb wrote:
I heard many pro gamers don't like Idra, (but they respect him as a players). What goes aroud comes around. IdrA is the type of person that doesn't really give a shit if anyone likes him or not. He's just him. I respect him for that. You respect someone for being a dick to others and for not caring what people think? Kinda weird. Sure, he can be a dick, but I do respect him for the most part, yes. Why not say what's on your mind? Maybe I only think this because I'm an outspoken person myself. Who knows...
I find this kinda strange, not necessarily you, but a lot of people are like this, they like him for saying whatever is on his mind, no matter what other people think of it, but then they criticize Naama for saying what's on his mind?
Not meant as a jab to you, just in general .
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Lol how did thorzain and namma react to idra not GGing? I had the stream in the background but didnt pay attention. Why are people making a big deal about it?
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On June 26 2011 06:22 wxwx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:12 rareh wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 stafu wrote:On June 26 2011 06:04 Allwars wrote:On June 26 2011 05:59 Kraznaya wrote:On June 26 2011 05:58 Allwars wrote:
Really disappointed with the comments from Naama, Thorzain..etc.. to IdrA, they definitely crossed the line there, that's not smart healthy trolling, that's just being a dick. What goes around comes around. Especially to Idra and his fans. :D No, it's not near the same. His attitude in this tournament has been perfect mannered, he gg'ed every single game also when he won. And he obtains laughter and bad manners from the others, it's not fair. I don't care what he might or not have said to them in private, but he is smart enough to not bm in public, opposite of the others. There have been plenty of games he hasn't gg'd in, including the final game vs HuK where he even just said 'lol' and leaves, with HuK sitting directly in front of him. I really don't get Idra's fanboys. You go on and on about him for his attitude then whine when the repercussions roll around. You want that reputation, then you also have to deal with the consequences of acting like a dick to those around you. If Idra is one, then so is MC , slashing throats, provoking opponents, thumbing down etc Much worse then simply not saying "gg". People love to hate idra, i get it, they wish they had his skill, all haters are jealous. Don't even compare MC to idra. MC is a much better player, cooler guy, funnier personality, way more people like him, and has so much fewer haters.
+ Doesn't whine nearly as much lol
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I don't know why people keep harping on Idra's mentality so much. The truth about Idra is that he's just vastly overrated - at least in comparison to the size of his fanbase - and he tends to lose in the most spectacular ways. People saying his "mentality" is the only weakness to his playing style are vastly overestimating an overhyped Brood War B teamer who never saw the light of day.
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Naama: "Idra called me a cheeser so he deserves to lose".
Progamer circle of life friends!
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On June 26 2011 06:23 Angelbelow wrote:
Lol how did thorzain and namma react to idra not GGing? I had the stream in the background but didnt pay attention. Why are people making a big deal about it?
Idralings make a big deal of anything when their idol loses.
On June 26 2011 06:23 Legend` wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:22 wxwx wrote:On June 26 2011 06:12 rareh wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 stafu wrote:On June 26 2011 06:04 Allwars wrote:On June 26 2011 05:59 Kraznaya wrote:On June 26 2011 05:58 Allwars wrote:
Really disappointed with the comments from Naama, Thorzain..etc.. to IdrA, they definitely crossed the line there, that's not smart healthy trolling, that's just being a dick. What goes around comes around. Especially to Idra and his fans. :D No, it's not near the same. His attitude in this tournament has been perfect mannered, he gg'ed every single game also when he won. And he obtains laughter and bad manners from the others, it's not fair. I don't care what he might or not have said to them in private, but he is smart enough to not bm in public, opposite of the others. There have been plenty of games he hasn't gg'd in, including the final game vs HuK where he even just said 'lol' and leaves, with HuK sitting directly in front of him. I really don't get Idra's fanboys. You go on and on about him for his attitude then whine when the repercussions roll around. You want that reputation, then you also have to deal with the consequences of acting like a dick to those around you. If Idra is one, then so is MC , slashing throats, provoking opponents, thumbing down etc Much worse then simply not saying "gg". People love to hate idra, i get it, they wish they had his skill, all haters are jealous. Don't even compare MC to idra. MC is a much better player, cooler guy, funnier personality, way more people like him, and has so much fewer haters. + Doesn't whine nearly as much lol
And he's more handsome.
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On June 26 2011 06:23 Dingotrold wrote:
Naama: "Idra called me a cheeser so he deserves to lose".
Progamer circle of life friends!
Naama is such a charming guy and boss!. No homo.
Hope he casts some more tomorrow was quite funny.
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On June 26 2011 06:22 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:20 ODieN wrote:On June 26 2011 06:18 zeru wrote:On June 26 2011 06:16 ODieN wrote:On June 26 2011 06:16 frozenrb wrote:
I heard many pro gamers don't like Idra, (but they respect him as a players). What goes aroud comes around. IdrA is the type of person that doesn't really give a shit if anyone likes him or not. He's just him. I respect him for that. You respect someone for being a dick to others and for not caring what people think? Kinda weird. Sure, he can be a dick, but I do respect him for the most part, yes. Why not say what's on your mind? Maybe I only think this because I'm an outspoken person myself. Who knows... I find this kinda strange, not necessarily you, but a lot of people are like this, they like him for saying whatever is on his mind, no matter what other people think of it, but then they criticize Naama for saying what's on his mind? Not meant as a jab to you, just in general .
THIS!! People praising IdrA for saying what he thinks, then other pros say what they think and booom it's unacceptable behaviour.
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On June 26 2011 06:22 wxwx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:12 rareh wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 stafu wrote:On June 26 2011 06:04 Allwars wrote:On June 26 2011 05:59 Kraznaya wrote:On June 26 2011 05:58 Allwars wrote:
Really disappointed with the comments from Naama, Thorzain..etc.. to IdrA, they definitely crossed the line there, that's not smart healthy trolling, that's just being a dick. What goes around comes around. Especially to Idra and his fans. :D No, it's not near the same. His attitude in this tournament has been perfect mannered, he gg'ed every single game also when he won. And he obtains laughter and bad manners from the others, it's not fair. I don't care what he might or not have said to them in private, but he is smart enough to not bm in public, opposite of the others. There have been plenty of games he hasn't gg'd in, including the final game vs HuK where he even just said 'lol' and leaves, with HuK sitting directly in front of him. I really don't get Idra's fanboys. You go on and on about him for his attitude then whine when the repercussions roll around. You want that reputation, then you also have to deal with the consequences of acting like a dick to those around you. If Idra is one, then so is MC , slashing throats, provoking opponents, thumbing down etc Much worse then simply not saying "gg". People love to hate idra, i get it, they wish they had his skill, all haters are jealous. Don't even compare MC to idra. MC is a much better player, cooler guy, funnier personality, way more people like him, and has so much fewer haters.
MC is much more worse than idra IMO.
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On June 26 2011 06:18 Vaeila wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 06:11 Heavenly wrote:On June 26 2011 06:07 Irave wrote:On June 26 2011 06:06 Heavenly wrote:
Well MC has pretty much got this. Naniwa might have pulled a 2-1 but I don't see MC losing a bo7 to him. So you are just going to write Huk out of this totally then? Even though he has the best chance to win it currently. Right, should've rephrased that to include Huk as well. I don't see Huk winning either. Naniwa pretty much won 3 games against MC, only 1 small obs mis-micro lost him the game, how exactly do you not see him winning a Bo7 vs MC?
Every PvP is decided by small things.
MC has seen that Naniwa heavily favors robo tech into fast colossi (does the same in almost all matchups) and MC will show why no one in Korea seems to want to go colossi. With MC having the chance to look over the replays and see what timings he could have had and why he lost game three I don't see him falling again. He was in a superior position in game 3 until he got out-upgraded and his generic safe composition got countered by Naniwa's.
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Can't decide between what is more awesome.. Idra raging, or all the Zerg fanboys raging! clap clap clap clap!
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On June 26 2011 06:18 NickelMail wrote:
I don't play Zerg so my opinion on this maybe wrong, but can't Zerg open Pool first and be much safer, and just slow their economy a little? Does this not make sense vs players who you are probably better than?
Idras a better player than Tarson, but Idra isn't that much better that if he makes a mistake, Tarson can't capitalize. Play safer.
IdrA isn't a better player than Tarson...
Tarson vs MC should be interesting, I hope that Tarson will play agressive
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