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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 07 2010 07:37 GMT
#8701
On November 07 2010 16:33 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 16:31 escobari wrote:
Aah incontrol took that cheeser out. so sweet!

I'm guessing you never watched PL.

Nazgul basically sniped IdrA for his team.


lol no I really doubt he did it for his team he did it because he was in his way to go to the next round of the tournament. This isn't proleague so the same thought process isn't there
When I think of something else, something will go here
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 07 2010 07:39 GMT
#8702
@Primadog, nice work you've done there. Could you pm motdog to update that into the OP.
Looks like TL is doing quite well in this tourney, if they didnt knock each other out there should be more TL players on the Winner bracket.
Also, Sen is out of the tournament...I am sad.
Terran
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 07:44:36
November 07 2010 07:43 GMT
#8703
On November 07 2010 16:37 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 16:33 dcemuser wrote:
On November 07 2010 16:31 escobari wrote:
Aah incontrol took that cheeser out. so sweet!

I'm guessing you never watched PL.

Nazgul basically sniped IdrA for his team.


lol no I really doubt he did it for his team he did it because he was in his way to go to the next round of the tournament. This isn't proleague so the same thought process isn't there


Nazgul is the manager and owner of Team Liquid.

From what I've seen of him from the Liquid Weeklies, he cares about his team above everything else.

If he could sacrifice his place in the tournament for a chance to help his team out in the later stages, I bet you money he'd do it.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 08:00:11
November 07 2010 07:47 GMT
#8704
For my own reference (but perhaps others could find this useful)

Winners (Four):

[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Jinro
[image loading][image loading] Pain.User

[image loading][image loading] EG.Machine
[image loading][image loading] FnaticTTOne

+ Show Spoiler [Winners Predictions] +

[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Jinro vs. [image loading][image loading] FnaticTTOne

See below...


Losers (Eight):
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`TLO

[image loading][image loading] ROOT.Drewbie
[image loading][image loading] SLush

[image loading][image loading] Dignitas.SeleCT
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`NonY

[image loading][image loading] KiWiKaKi
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret

+ Show Spoiler [Losers Predictions] +
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk vs. [image loading][image loading] ROOT.Drewbie
[image loading][image loading] Dignitas.SeleCT vs. [image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret

Then:
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk vs [image loading][image loading] Pain.User
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret vs. [image loading][image loading] EG.Machine

Then:
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk vs [image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret

Then:
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Jinro vs. [image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret

And finally:
[image loading][image loading] FnaticTTOne vs. [image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret


Eliminated
#13th (T)
[image loading][image loading] qxc (HuK)
[image loading][image loading] EG.iNcontroL (Drewbie)
[image loading][image loading] iNKa (SeleCT)
[image loading][image loading] Socke (KiWiKaKi)

#17th (T)
[image loading][image loading] EG.Idra (SeleCT)
[image loading][image loading] Fnatic.Gretorp (HuK)
[image loading][image loading] EG.LzGaMeR (KiWiKaKi)
[image loading][image loading] Agh (Drewbie)
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Nazgul (iNcontroL)
[image loading][image loading] FnaticFenix (iNkA)
[image loading][image loading] FnaticSEn (Sockeh)
[image loading][image loading] NeOReSpOnSe (qxc)



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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 07 2010 07:49 GMT
#8705
On November 07 2010 16:47 tree.hugger wrote:
For my own reference (but perhaps others could find this useful)

Winners (Four):

[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Jinro
[image loading][image loading] Pain.User

[image loading][image loading] EG.Machine
[image loading][image loading] FnaticTTOne


Losers (Eight):
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`TLO

[image loading][image loading] ROOT.Drewbie
[image loading][image loading] SLush

[image loading][image loading] Dignitas.SeleCT
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`NonY

[image loading][image loading] KiWiKaKi
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret


Do you know what I see?

4 Terran
4 Zerg
4 Protoss

Blasphemy.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
November 07 2010 07:50 GMT
#8706
I just went and watched the replays where idra lost those 2 fast blink games and he made 2 huge mistakes in game 1 and like 4-5 mistakes in game 3 which cost him the game.

In game 1, he quickly found out his opponent was going mass stalker and knew he was going blink and placed a spine crawler, but he placed it too far away from his base and it was easily sniped, had it been 2 spaces back it would have been in a much better position. Also he should have built a crawler towards the top of his base as well, since he was well ahead of his opponent macro wise. The 2nd mistake was the engagement. He correctly made a lot of lings and roaches, but engaged in the worst possible spot. He basically gave away the lings for free. The correct way to engage is to let him have that position right there and let him jump in towards the base. Once he blinks in attack with the roaches only and then flank with the lings to attack the units blinking behind. If he attacks from the north then just put the left on the left and then engage, if he attacks from the south , idra had correctly placed his lings for that as well. Losing your base in a blink rush is not a big deal if you can manage to hold off the attack, it is a big deal when you 1a your lings to death. Melee units require an open area to engage, and that was not open at all.

In game 3, kulas is kinda an unfair map with that blink trick from the xelnaga in the center, however, he made other mistakes that could have made up for it.
He correctly pushed towards the front with his roaches, but he mismicroed a ton of roaches. In that situation idra should have lost 0 roaches. What should happen is you keep pressuring at that front, just getting hits is good enough. What he needs to do is wait him out. If he blinks everything then the roaches will eat up those stalkers so quickly. If he blinks a few at a time, idra can rush in with his lings to the front and kill a few stalkers. In any case he should always leave room for his lings in case of a blink. The other mistakes were really bad including rallying his units to the front instead of bringing them manually and also not countering that xel'naga cavern where the probe and pylon sat. Just 1 ling would be enough to cause him to panic. In the end, kulas has no wide open areas and lings are really terrible on that map especially against blink stalkers. I also think an overlord over the expansion with a spine crawler in the mineral line could have helped, but it was already over when idra mismicroed at the front with his roaches.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
November 07 2010 07:52 GMT
#8707
Pretty cool, 4z 4p and 4t left in the tournament. :o
Nice variety.
I get it.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
November 07 2010 07:52 GMT
#8708
On November 07 2010 16:49 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 16:47 tree.hugger wrote:
For my own reference (but perhaps others could find this useful)

Winners (Four):

[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Jinro
[image loading][image loading] Pain.User

[image loading][image loading] EG.Machine
[image loading][image loading] FnaticTTOne


Losers (Eight):
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`TLO

[image loading][image loading] ROOT.Drewbie
[image loading][image loading] SLush

[image loading][image loading] Dignitas.SeleCT
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`NonY

[image loading][image loading] KiWiKaKi
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret


Do you know what I see?

4 Terran
4 Zerg
4 Protoss

Blasphemy.


What?!?!?!?! Away from me satan! What is this game you speak of?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Corlath
Profile Joined June 2010
United States14 Posts
November 07 2010 08:03 GMT
#8709
I'm really impressed how Machine is playing, hope he can win it all!
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 08:12:38
November 07 2010 08:03 GMT
#8710
Did MLG dallas improved? Hows venue, seating, crowd? And most importantly, are we beating Halo in numbers? :D

Also this thread generated 8700 replies and 600,000 views. Holy check.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 07 2010 08:11 GMT
#8711
Wow jinro vs Socke game 2 is amazing. Wholy shit that was just insane lol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
November 07 2010 08:17 GMT
#8712
On November 07 2010 17:03 AyJay wrote:
Did MLG dallas improved? Hows venue, seating, crowd? And most importantly, are we beating Halo in numbers? :D

Also this thread generated 8700 replies and 600,000 views. Holy check.


Yeah, there were some INCREDIBLE games today.

The matches in Winner's Bracket Round 3 surpassed the previous MLG's Finals in quality, imo.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
November 07 2010 08:18 GMT
#8713
On November 07 2010 17:03 AyJay wrote:
Did MLG dallas improved? Hows venue, seating, crowd? And most importantly, are we beating Halo in numbers? :D

Also this thread generated 8700 replies and 600,000 views. Holy check.


The SC2 section of MLG is improving at each event. The SC2 at MLG Dallas actually has their own space unlike past MLG events where the area was in the middle of a huge ass room. The venue and crowd looks great judging from pictures and shots on the live stream. I am sure that the audience count is pretty high since the members on SOTG stated many times.
Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
November 07 2010 08:20 GMT
#8714
MLG has zombified my speech so that i must say "STICK A FORK IN THOSE BUNZZZ" every 5 minutes or so.
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 07 2010 08:21 GMT
#8715
On November 07 2010 17:17 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 17:03 AyJay wrote:
Did MLG dallas improved? Hows venue, seating, crowd? And most importantly, are we beating Halo in numbers? :D

Also this thread generated 8700 replies and 600,000 views. Holy check.


Yeah, there were some INCREDIBLE games today.

The matches in Winner's Bracket Round 3 surpassed the previous MLG's Finals in quality, imo.


well tbh last MLG's finals sucked really bad just 1 sided
When I think of something else, something will go here
Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
November 07 2010 08:22 GMT
#8716
On November 07 2010 17:20 Usurper wrote:
MLG has zombified my speech so that i must say "STICK A FORK IN THOSE BUNZZZ" every 5 minutes or so.

Dude, screw hot pockets, its all about the jerky!

Anyway, this event has been so fun. Even though I got owned its been amazing. Huk in particular has won my heart. Even though I was already a fan, he's been such a nice guy giving me pointers and asking how my games went that I will forever be a fan.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 08:28:49
November 07 2010 08:22 GMT
#8717
On November 07 2010 16:47 tree.hugger wrote:
For my own reference (but perhaps others could find this useful)

Winners (Four):

[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Jinro
[image loading][image loading] Pain.User

[image loading][image loading] EG.Machine
[image loading][image loading] FnaticTTOne

+ Show Spoiler [Winners Predictions] +

[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Jinro vs. [image loading][image loading] FnaticTTOne

See below...


Losers (Eight):
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`TLO

[image loading][image loading] ROOT.Drewbie
[image loading][image loading] SLush

[image loading][image loading] Dignitas.SeleCT
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`NonY

[image loading][image loading] KiWiKaKi
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret

+ Show Spoiler [Losers Predictions] +
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk vs. [image loading][image loading] ROOT.Drewbie
[image loading][image loading] Dignitas.SeleCT vs. [image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret

Then:
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk vs [image loading][image loading] Pain.User
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret vs. [image loading][image loading] EG.Machine

Then:
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Huk vs [image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret

Then:
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Jinro vs. [image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret

And finally:
[image loading][image loading] FnaticTTOne vs. [image loading][image loading] Liquid`Ret


Eliminated
#13th (T)
[image loading][image loading] qxc (HuK)
[image loading][image loading] EG.iNcontroL (Drewbie)
[image loading][image loading] iNKa (SeleCT)
[image loading][image loading] Socke (KiWiKaKi)

#17th (T)
[image loading][image loading] EG.Idra (SeleCT)
[image loading][image loading] Fnatic.Gretorp (HuK)
[image loading][image loading] EG.LzGaMeR (KiWiKaKi)
[image loading][image loading] Agh (Drewbie)
[image loading][image loading] Liquid`Nazgul (iNcontroL)
[image loading][image loading] FnaticFenix (iNkA)
[image loading][image loading] FnaticSEn (Sockeh)
[image loading][image loading] NeOReSpOnSe (qxc)




Thank you for that list, the bracket page is terrible.

Looking at the list of players eliminated would create a beastly tournament in itself, and then there are 12 more players who made it even further. This is the most stacked foreigner tournament to date. This weekend fullfilled all my hopes and expectations. Good stuff.

edit: I'm going with Jinro to take it all. His games against Socke impressed me, such solid macro play with some cute ideas thrown in.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
November 07 2010 08:22 GMT
#8718
On November 07 2010 17:17 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 17:03 AyJay wrote:
Did MLG dallas improved? Hows venue, seating, crowd? And most importantly, are we beating Halo in numbers? :D

Also this thread generated 8700 replies and 600,000 views. Holy check.


Yeah, there were some INCREDIBLE games today.

The matches in Winner's Bracket Round 3 surpassed the previous MLG's Finals in quality, imo.


MLG 2011 SC2 will be getting Feature stations and a Huge Stage
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
November 07 2010 08:26 GMT
#8719
Nazzzzzzzzzzzgul fighting! OMG wish he was at DC.

Incontrol fighting too!
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Ultramus
Profile Joined June 2010
United States319 Posts
November 07 2010 08:28 GMT
#8720
Only issue I have: 10 benches. seriously what the fuck. They have 8 at DC seating 1/10 the crowd and so they add 2 benches?? The crowd for the winners bracket 3 today was pretty intense, definitely had the whole middle of the room crammed. IMO we had more than halo, and that's what I'd came to play >_<
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