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The Milkman
Mongolia140 Posts
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geript
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Wade Fell
United States501 Posts
On February 26 2013 19:51 Toadesstern wrote: That begs the question why he's still alive. Perhaps we don't have a dayvig ![]() If we did have one he wouldn't be able to fire day 1. | ||
Wade Fell
United States501 Posts
On February 26 2013 19:52 The Milkman wrote: Stop asking for day kills and trying to get the identities of smurfs, useless fluff and it only makes the thread big. I am sorry for not posting this in one post but I am getting really dismayed by the one liner festive over here. Effort people, were on like page thirty and we are not even half through the day. I understand Promethelax's plan, it fizzled but what are we going to do. I understand some smurfs suspicion of him planning a getaway with a rng argument. People are quite upfront about their opinions, that is one good thing... Besides all that negativity flowing through them... so no real opinions then | ||
Wade Fell
United States501 Posts
On February 26 2013 19:53 geript wrote: Also is wade Marv? :| HOW SERIOUS ARE WE | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 26 2013 19:53 Wade Fell wrote: If we did have one he wouldn't be able to fire day 1. oh that's actually true ![]() On February 26 2013 19:53 geript wrote: Also is wade Marv? very unlikely... | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On February 26 2013 19:51 Aquanim wrote: You claim that WoS is speaking in "different tones". What is your actual point? And do you claim that being excited makes WoS scum? In fact what are you saying here at all besides spraying inconclusive, uncommittal suspicion at WoS? My point is that I think his posts are a combination of scripting and mimicry. No. Being excited makes him excited, but emotional state gives a read on the reasons behind the actions and thus the goal of the actions. I'm saying I think WoS is scum and I want everyone else to keep an eye on him. | ||
Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On February 26 2013 19:56 geript wrote: My point is that I think his posts are a combination of scripting and mimicry. Are you saying that you think the "analysis" part of what you posted was written by a hypothetical scumbuddy of WoS and the rest was him writing his own stuff? What do you mean by mimicry, anyway? ...but emotional state gives a read on the reasons behind the actions and thus the goal of the actions. I have no idea what this means and still no idea why being excited makes you think WoS is scum at all. Can you rephrase this for me? | ||
geript
10024 Posts
Ok, so in poker how I made my money was reading emotional states. You find out how a person is feeling and that gives you their state of mind. Once you get their state of mind you can see the choices their making and learn why they're making the choices they're making. My point with being excited is that it also is uncharacteristic; he doesn't run on adrenaline, that's not his shtick. He's a fly by the seat of his pants guy. Prolonged excitation doesn't make sense from a town role. | ||
Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On February 26 2013 20:09 geript wrote: By mimicry I mean finding things that other people in the thread are saying and trying to copy and apply it. Isn't this to be expected from a newbie? I know I learn things from watching the other people in this game... Prolonged excitation doesn't make sense from a town role. Why not? | ||
geript
10024 Posts
Because town doesn't naturally evoke a stressor response. | ||
Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I like his behavior and responses to a couple of things. | ||
Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy. Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting) Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then") conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx) I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch. This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote: Promethelax, how do you feel about this post? conclusion: probably scum, would lynch. I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can. Good luck town! | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote: Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now. I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy. Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting) Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then") conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx) I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch. This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense conclusion: probably scum, would lynch. I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can. Good luck town! Everytime someone says something like that I get the feeling they're not actually part of "town" themselves. Funny you're the one who said something like that, isn't it ? | ||
Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On February 26 2013 22:08 Toadesstern wrote: Everytime someone says something like that I get the feeling they're not actually part of "town" themselves. Funny you're the one who said something like that, isn't it ? that is unless it's a post done 5 minutes prior to deadline with you yourself being the guy to be lynched. In that case it makes sense but we're not in that situation yet. | ||
The Milkman
Mongolia140 Posts
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The Milkman
Mongolia140 Posts
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On February 26 2013 19:43 geript wrote: Sorry I got caught up at work; major AC leak and a busted urinal within 30 minutes of each other and when I don't usually clean. Had to call people in, explain why I was there, what was going on and why I wasn't responsible for it. First off, there are three distinct tones in WoS key post and I'm going to separate them out. All this says is that whatever you are about to propose is absolutely retarded. All it says is, "ignore this post." This tone is returned to at the end. The second tone is the analysis tone: Basically this says, "trust a newbie to be pardoner." The problem is that his argument falls apart when you really analyze it. You don't want pardoner in the hands of a newbie because it's a free pass for when they get caught for them unless they're lynched D1. I agree with previous analysis, best to put pardoner on the mayor's lynch target. Next the general plea: This section is especially out of tone for him. I feel like I'm watching C3PO talk to Jabba here. This paragraph especially feels forced; the diction is all wrong for him. His posts are little more than mimicry than anything else in general but this paragraph is nothing of the sort. Next, I actually have to agree with what Prome said. The difference between Vivax response and WoS response is that Vivax actually attacks the argument (If you do A+B then no way you get to C). WoS response was essentially, "You got NK last game." WoS is playing excited this game. Even when he's grabbed a touch of heat, he's not been the slightest concerned about it and continues to "counterpressure" with bleh. I'm going to reread the thread a few times before I head to bed and sleep on it but for right now Vivax and WoS are on the top of my list but I'd need a flip to make a strong case. @Geript I have some serious problems with this post. Aquanim and you had some foreplay, but my issue was not directly tackled. You do your dance and explain your three tones. Blah blah. Then the colossal disappointment of a conclusion. I'm going to reread the thread a few times before I head to bed and sleep on it but for right now Vivax and WoS are on the top of my list but I'd need a flip to make a strong case. Wtf is this meant to mean.... You have two top scum reads.. but until you see a flip you can not make a strong case. Explain in gratuitous detail NOW! | ||
MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On February 26 2013 18:25 JungleJorge wrote: I believe promethelax is innocent and I may expand on that if necessary, but it should be painfully obvious to anyone reading this thread how much traction this wagon got based on very poor reasoning by most of you. Much of the "scummy" behavior you have been pointing out is exactly the opposite of what scum normally tries to accomplish when they post. I suggest you revisit prom's filter and think about why he would post some of the stuff he has posted if he was indeed scum. I plan on being more specific later, but I'll give you guys some time to figure it out by yourselves. JJ, it is not painfully obvious. Please share the information you have to enlighten us all. Why is prome innocent? | ||
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