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The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
February 26 2013 10:52 GMT
#841
Stop asking for day kills and trying to get the identities of smurfs, useless fluff and it only makes the thread big. I am sorry for not posting this in one post but I am getting really dismayed by the one liner festive over here. Effort people, were on like page thirty and we are not even half through the day. I understand Promethelax's plan, it fizzled but what are we going to do. I understand some smurfs suspicion of him planning a getaway with a rng argument. People are quite upfront about their opinions, that is one good thing... Besides all that negativity flowing through them...
My milk is delicious.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 10:53 GMT
#842
Also is wade Marv?
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 10:53 GMT
#843
On February 26 2013 19:51 Toadesstern wrote:
That begs the question why he's still alive. Perhaps we don't have a dayvig


If we did have one he wouldn't be able to fire day 1.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 10:54 GMT
#844
On February 26 2013 19:52 The Milkman wrote:
Stop asking for day kills and trying to get the identities of smurfs, useless fluff and it only makes the thread big. I am sorry for not posting this in one post but I am getting really dismayed by the one liner festive over here. Effort people, were on like page thirty and we are not even half through the day. I understand Promethelax's plan, it fizzled but what are we going to do. I understand some smurfs suspicion of him planning a getaway with a rng argument. People are quite upfront about their opinions, that is one good thing... Besides all that negativity flowing through them...


so no real opinions then
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 10:55 GMT
#845
On February 26 2013 19:53 geript wrote:
Also is wade Marv?


:| HOW SERIOUS ARE WE
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2013 10:56 GMT
#846
On February 26 2013 19:53 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 19:51 Toadesstern wrote:
That begs the question why he's still alive. Perhaps we don't have a dayvig


If we did have one he wouldn't be able to fire day 1.

oh that's actually true
On February 26 2013 19:53 geript wrote:
Also is wade Marv?

very unlikely...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 10:56 GMT
#847
On February 26 2013 19:51 Aquanim wrote:
You claim that WoS is speaking in "different tones". What is your actual point?
And do you claim that being excited makes WoS scum?
In fact what are you saying here at all besides spraying inconclusive, uncommittal suspicion at WoS?

My point is that I think his posts are a combination of scripting and mimicry.
No. Being excited makes him excited, but emotional state gives a read on the reasons behind the actions and thus the goal of the actions.
I'm saying I think WoS is scum and I want everyone else to keep an eye on him.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 26 2013 11:02 GMT
#848
On February 26 2013 19:56 geript wrote:
My point is that I think his posts are a combination of scripting and mimicry.

Are you saying that you think the "analysis" part of what you posted was written by a hypothetical scumbuddy of WoS and the rest was him writing his own stuff? What do you mean by mimicry, anyway?

...but emotional state gives a read on the reasons behind the actions and thus the goal of the actions.

I have no idea what this means and still no idea why being excited makes you think WoS is scum at all. Can you rephrase this for me?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 11:09 GMT
#849
I think he was fed a general script to follow. By mimicry I mean finding things that other people in the thread are saying and trying to copy and apply it.

Ok, so in poker how I made my money was reading emotional states. You find out how a person is feeling and that gives you their state of mind. Once you get their state of mind you can see the choices their making and learn why they're making the choices they're making. My point with being excited is that it also is uncharacteristic; he doesn't run on adrenaline, that's not his shtick. He's a fly by the seat of his pants guy. Prolonged excitation doesn't make sense from a town role.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 26 2013 11:13 GMT
#850
On February 26 2013 20:09 geript wrote:
By mimicry I mean finding things that other people in the thread are saying and trying to copy and apply it.

Isn't this to be expected from a newbie? I know I learn things from watching the other people in this game...

Prolonged excitation doesn't make sense from a town role.

Why not?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 11:31 GMT
#851
On February 26 2013 20:13 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Prolonged excitation doesn't make sense from a town role.

Why not?

Because town doesn't naturally evoke a stressor response.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 26 2013 12:04 GMT
#852
Milkman, do you have any reads for us?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2013 12:33 GMT
#853
##vote VE

I like his behavior and responses to a couple of things.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 13:00 GMT
#854
Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now.

I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy.
Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting)
Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then")
conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch

JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx)
I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch.
This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense
On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?

Actually its the opposite.
You become non-existent.

'pretty much how I feel right now.
See you D2 everybody!

Promethelax, how do you feel about this post?

conclusion: probably scum, would lynch.

I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can.
Good luck town!
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2013 13:08 GMT
#855
On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote:
Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now.

I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy.
Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting)
Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then")
conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch

JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx)
I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch.
This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?

Actually its the opposite.
You become non-existent.

'pretty much how I feel right now.
See you D2 everybody!

Promethelax, how do you feel about this post?

conclusion: probably scum, would lynch.

I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can.
Good luck town!

Everytime someone says something like that I get the feeling they're not actually part of "town" themselves. Funny you're the one who said something like that, isn't it ?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2013 13:10 GMT
#856
On February 26 2013 22:08 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote:
Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now.

I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy.
Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting)
Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then")
conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch

JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx)
I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch.
This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense
On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?

Actually its the opposite.
You become non-existent.

'pretty much how I feel right now.
See you D2 everybody!

Promethelax, how do you feel about this post?

conclusion: probably scum, would lynch.

I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can.
Good luck town!

Everytime someone says something like that I get the feeling they're not actually part of "town" themselves. Funny you're the one who said something like that, isn't it ?

that is unless it's a post done 5 minutes prior to deadline with you yourself being the guy to be lynched. In that case it makes sense but we're not in that situation yet.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
February 26 2013 13:33 GMT
#857
My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. His play does not sum up as a town one in my book. He should push analysis, help with shooting down bad plans, actually scum hunt and so on. What is his reaction to pressure? No reaction. He just seems to start posting one liners and filler. I understand Dr's reluctance to be elected mayor, he just wants to play for a little while for once. Viscera is playing cool too. Milksuckler got a little townier than at the start, he seemed cold. Now he seems to be in the mafia trance! Vivax is in my opinion playing terribly, trying to do meaningless stuff like smurf identities, spamming and overall fluff. Toad strikes me as suspicious because of his position and calling for day vig. He does not seem right based on meta - he is not the guy to be "somewhere" but the guy to be at the top of town's structure. Leading, working hard and scumhunting.
My milk is delicious.
The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
February 26 2013 13:37 GMT
#858
I have no idea how jorge supposed to know anything about your alignment with the setup we have. How absurd.
My milk is delicious.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 13:50 GMT
#859
On February 26 2013 19:43 geript wrote:
Sorry I got caught up at work; major AC leak and a busted urinal within 30 minutes of each other and when I don't usually clean. Had to call people in, explain why I was there, what was going on and why I wasn't responsible for it.

First off, there are three distinct tones in WoS key post and I'm going to separate them out.
Show nested quote +
A thought popped into my head regarding this...it may be absolutely retarded but you guys will let me know that after the fact, won't you?

All this says is that whatever you are about to propose is absolutely retarded. All it says is, "ignore this post." This tone is returned to at the end.
Show nested quote +
Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach.

The second tone is the analysis tone:
Show nested quote +
Since the pardoner is inherently more dangerous as a scumrole and the plan to 'kill two birds with one stone' in all likelihood won't (or can't at this point) gain the traction necessary to be carried out, why not give up the role to someone who is likely to be targeted early anyway, or someone who if you are overly suspicious of, you can lynch yourselves anyway?
Case and point: a newbie.

Basically this says, "trust a newbie to be pardoner." The problem is that his argument falls apart when you really analyze it. You don't want pardoner in the hands of a newbie because it's a free pass for when they get caught for them unless they're lynched D1. I agree with previous analysis, best to put pardoner on the mayor's lynch target.

Next the general plea:
Show nested quote +
I graciously offer up myself to be the (possible) sacrificial lamb to do with as you will. If you so choose to lynch me for fear that I am scum, then I go down happily, hopefully bringing as much information to the table as possible before I crash and burn in an epic fireball. If you choose to keep me around, then I will serve the town gladly and I will offer up my pardon to save a deserving person. Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach.

This section is especially out of tone for him. I feel like I'm watching C3PO talk to Jabba here. This paragraph especially feels forced; the diction is all wrong for him. His posts are little more than mimicry than anything else in general but this paragraph is nothing of the sort.

Next, I actually have to agree with what Prome said. The difference between Vivax response and WoS response is that Vivax actually attacks the argument (If you do A+B then no way you get to C). WoS response was essentially, "You got NK last game."
WoS is playing excited this game. Even when he's grabbed a touch of heat, he's not been the slightest concerned about it and continues to "counterpressure" with bleh.

I'm going to reread the thread a few times before I head to bed and sleep on it but for right now Vivax and WoS are on the top of my list but I'd need a flip to make a strong case.

@Geript
I have some serious problems with this post.
Aquanim and you had some foreplay, but my issue was not directly tackled.

You do your dance and explain your three tones. Blah blah.

Then the colossal disappointment of a conclusion.
I'm going to reread the thread a few times before I head to bed and sleep on it but for right now Vivax and WoS are on the top of my list but I'd need a flip to make a strong case.

Wtf is this meant to mean.... You have two top scum reads.. but until you see a flip you can not make a strong case.

Explain in gratuitous detail NOW!
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 13:51 GMT
#860
On February 26 2013 18:25 JungleJorge wrote:
I believe promethelax is innocent and I may expand on that if necessary, but it should be painfully obvious to anyone reading this thread how much traction this wagon got based on very poor reasoning by most of you. Much of the "scummy" behavior you have been pointing out is exactly the opposite of what scum normally tries to accomplish when they post. I suggest you revisit prom's filter and think about why he would post some of the stuff he has posted if he was indeed scum. I plan on being more specific later, but I'll give you guys some time to figure it out by yourselves.

JJ, it is not painfully obvious.

Please share the information you have to enlighten us all.
Why is prome innocent?
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