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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here. The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301 | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:30 ey215 wrote: The part where he got the crowd finishing his lines and then corrected them was a nice piece of speech craft. Liberals tend to be more effusive I'd say, the crowd seemed to love getting involved in the speech. I expect big things from Julian Castro, given that he can shake the issues of being a Democrat in Texas. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
Seriously, that's just f***ing ignorant. Tammy Duckworth and Claudia Kennedy are deserving of their medals, and if you think women who are harassed in the military should be quiet about it, then seriously, you're an idiot of the highest degree. User was warned for this post | ||
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:31 dvorakftw wrote: Are you sure on that last part? Last I heard they still had the address verification disabled like they did 4 years ago so anywhere from any country could give as much money as they wanted . Hillary's campaign got busted from a few people making false max contributions through multiple people but the no check credit card system bypassed it. I'll try and find more on it I heard it on my way to work this morning that they still were doing it. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:26 WolfintheSheep wrote: Wow, that seems on the extreme end of things. Of course, I'm not sure what the numbers are in Canada...could be very similar. In the current political climate that is probably accurate. I can't see either party getting less than 45% of the nationwide popular vote for president under any realistic circumstances. | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:26 WolfintheSheep wrote: Wow, that seems on the extreme end of things. Of course, I'm not sure what the numbers are in Canada...could be very similar. That breaks down as 45% voting dem, and 45% repub. But yes I agree that's a little high. But it's rarely lower then a 40/40 split. So it's safe to say "swing voters" make up anywhere from 10-20%. | ||
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ey215
United States546 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:35 woody60707 wrote: That breaks down as 45% voting dem, and 45% repub. But yes I agree that's a little high. But it's rarely lower then a 40/40 split. So it's safe to say "swing voters" make up anywhere from 10-20%. He asked about the party line though didn't he? We do tend to split tickets to a little higher degree on the down ticket races. There's been a lot of commentary on how few undecided "likely" voters there are this year. Assuming no major outside event, the first debate will likely decide this thing. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
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CajunMan
United States823 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:31 dvorakftw wrote: Are you sure on that last part? Last I heard they still had the address verification disabled like they did 4 years ago so anywhere from any country could give as much money as they wanted . Hillary's campaign got busted from a few people making false max contributions through multiple people but the no check credit card system bypassed it. https://store.barackobama.com/checkout/onepage/ I don't know what further steps you must take but on the bottom of the checkout you have to agree you are a citizen and all that good stuff here is a quote of it. Legal Compliance You have confirmed that the following statements are true and accurate: I am a United States citizen or a lawfully admitted permanent resident of the United States. This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank. This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor. This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee. This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent. I am not a minor under the age of 16. The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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ey215
United States546 Posts
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:35 woody60707 wrote: That breaks down as 45% voting dem, and 45% repub. But yes I agree that's a little high. But it's rarely lower then a 40/40 split. So it's safe to say "swing voters" make up anywhere from 10-20%. Keep in mind that people who describe themselves as Independent but leaning R or leaning D, in practice, vote almost exactly the same way that people who describe themselves as Republican or Democratic do. This says 45-45 when counting leaners, and the total number of partisans and partisan leaners has remained between 89-93% by their surveys. http://www.gallup.com/poll/151943/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:41 xDaunt wrote: Looks like Michelle is having a hair malfunction. Cannot... unsee. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
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TotalBalanceSC2
Canada475 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:46 Doraemon wrote: i heard ron paul is running on a third party? how does that affect the chances of romney and obama? It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected. Edit: you do not really HAVE to be a Rep. or Dem. but you have a pretty much -100% chance of getting elected if your not running for one of the big two. | ||
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natrus
United States102 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:48 screamingpalm wrote: I really detest all these bootstrapping stories of American exceptionalism. "That's what it means to be a man". Fuck you Michelle... try having a debilitating sleep disorder, something you have no control over and see if you can still roll up your sleeves and "be a man". REALLY pissed me the fuck off. Sure its not something else bothering you? Got a little hate in ya? | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On September 05 2012 11:49 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote: It affects nothing, America is a two party system. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to be elected. Edit: you do not really HAVE to be a Rep. or Dem. but you have a pretty much -100% chance of getting elected if your not running for one of the big two. yes. but my question is this affects of the other two candidates. who's votes will Paul take? | ||
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