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Muirhead
United States557 Posts
Say in China it costs $20 a game In Europe+America, $60 In Singapore, $100 Then buy Singapore edition--->Can play on any server Buy U.S. edition---->Can play on US,Europe, China, can spend extra cash to play on Singapore I'd be fine with a system like this. | ||
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RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
I mean sure 10 years ago it was free, but it is a new consumer age and from a business point of view it seems okay to charge for cross region because basically they can. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On June 17 2010 09:03 Muirhead wrote: If they wanted to be fair about it, they would charge as follows: Say in China it costs $20 a game In Europe+America, $60 In Singapore, $100 Then buy Singapore edition--->Can play on any server Buy U.S. edition---->Can play on US,Europe, China, can spend extra cash to play on Singapore I'd be fine with a system like this. Indeed. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:52 Half wrote: There isn't any choice yet because pricing has not been determined. They're evaluating community response to determine adequate pricing. Every person that says "yeah whatever" is indirectly contributing to making us lose 10$. If every single person said "No wtf we won't pay for whats been a free feature for the past 15 years", then Blizzard won't charge for it. If everyone says "yeah whatever", then Blizzard will. You have no reason to not stand by your interests as a consumer. Blizzard isn't unethical or even greedy for charging for a feature most of you want to pay for. The question is why the fuck do you want to pay for it? Thats just being a tool pretty much  . Once again, I see myself siding with this guy. Listen, if you don't stand up for your rights then who will? The fees are getting out of hand. When you buy something you expect no hidden fees. Obviously many of you aren't financially dependent. It will all add up in the long-run. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On June 17 2010 09:03 Half wrote: Except the previously made several statements where we would be getting free service updates to b-net 2.0. Yeah you get updates to battlenet 2.0 since that is part of the server platform. I really doubt that includes account migrations etc. | ||
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RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
Well let's not get crazy before there's actual information. Right now we're focusing on the game, the Battle.net infrastructure, etc. and making sure the launch goes smoothly. There's been no decisions or even design work done on how the cross-region licenses will work. We know that we're going to do them, but aside from that there aren't any details available. When we have some we'll definitely let you know. http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25171934229&sid=3000&pageNo=4#69 In other words: don't jump to conclusions about microtransactions. It's still in development, and Blizzard has yet to decide anything. | ||
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Dreadwave
Netherlands254 Posts
On June 17 2010 Bashiok wrote: Well let's not get crazy before there's actual information. Right now we're focusing on the game, the Battle.net infrastructure, etc. and making sure the launch goes smoothly. There's been no decisions or even design work done on how the cross-region licenses will work. We know that we're going to do them, but aside from that there aren't any details available. When we have some we'll definitely let you know. So they didn't even get started on crossrealm features yet.... I'm filing this one under: "Blizzard hits bottom, digs" | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On June 17 2010 09:17 Dreadwave wrote: Bashiok posted again in that sc2gdf thread: So they didn't even get started on crossrealm features yet.... I'm filing this one under: "Blizzard hits bottom, digs" hits lava, keeps digging.... | ||
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TossFloss
Canada606 Posts
On June 17 2010 09:02 Baarn wrote: Blizzard is a company that has a successful business model that they offer a product and charge for services. It's not like they are charging a sub each month for Starcraft 2. You want to do anything outside of playing the game on the region you bought then you gotta suck it up and pay more. It's heartbreaking I know. Any of you are welcome to go start your own game company and not have micro transactions for any of your products. No. Releasing a service with less features than the original and charging more is heartbreaking. | ||
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
Edit: To add my personal thoughts, I knew it'd be a feature to be discussed eventually. I had no doubts they'd add it in, regardless of how many people believed they wouldn't. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Here Bill comes again with a remark. What makes you think they won't charge a small fee for cross-regional play smart ass? Unless they make it abundantly clear then there will be something to talk about. You can let them walk all over you for all I care, but I won't let some corporate schmuck try to walk all over me. Have fun purchasing your first car. Not everyone is a good negotiator. Car windows, steering wheels, brakes, etc. come in the initial pricing. GPS and other 'luxury' features cost extra. We expect to get the basic features of the original B.Net in the original price. The car dealer tells you before you buy your car, every basic feature might cost extra. It won't be in the initial price. Keyword is might. Do you not see anything wrong with that picture? | ||
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Drin
Australia16 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:59 Polis wrote: Why would people switch to one server in SC2? That function is only used when you want to play something specific/somebody specific from other server. It had never happen whit any other of the BN games, WOW is a mmorpg so there are diferent reason on why people want to join x server that Diablo/SC/WC players don't have. Well if people do not have any reason to join a particular server, then there would be no need for cross realm choice to begin with, bar the occasional tournament etc. Reasons for choosing a specific server include:
Some of these issues do not relate to the launch day scenario I mentioned of course, but they do highlight reasons why people may want to choose a specific region over another. And if enough (read: too many) people choose one region in particular come launch day, there could be server/stability issues. | ||
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Tone_
United Kingdom554 Posts
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Zerksys
United States569 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:04 Synwave wrote: I'll lay even odds it will be some nickel and dime pay to play concept. Add a region for 5 bucks or something to that effect. Well I'm going to be the optimist here and say that it might be a pay once for an upgrade thing... maybe??? | ||
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Drin
Australia16 Posts
On June 17 2010 09:27 Tone_ wrote: Awesome. I'm actually in New Zealand during release, can anyone verify for me which region this is counted in? It would be counted as the South-East-Asia region, which includes New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and perhaps a few other countries I forgot. Also as bioshock said, it seems the region-locking will be based on the license attached to the copy you purchase (which is based on the purchase region) and not the address in your battle.net account. So if you buy the game in NZ, you will only be able to play the game on SEA servers, as it currently stands. To play on the NA servers, you would have to buy a NA copy. | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
Basically, on your SC2 license page, it says "Region: [current region]". You can click on that region and it brings you to another page where it displays a generic disclaimer about lag, and then below it are a bunch of shiny web 2.0 boxes that say U.S, EU, Asia, etc, etc. A full priced version of the game has all the regions lighted up. To change, you click, confirmation window -processing-, then you got it. Maybe limit changes to like 5 times per week to limit abuse, w/e. If you bought a cheaper edition of the game, then other regions with different pricepoints have a muted grey lock and are greyed out. Hovering your mouse on them it says "You're account is not authorized to play on this region, do you wish to upgrade?". Clicking on it brings you to a billing/payment page where you can upgrade. | ||
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ryanAnger
United States838 Posts
On June 17 2010 08:38 StarStruck wrote: That has nothing to do with it. Don't put words in my mouth. The fact of the matter is they got a rid of a lot of features that were second nature to the old B.Net. You icannot argue that. It's only a cash grab now. I wasn't putting words in your mouth, I'm just suggesting that the reason this is no longer second nature is due to the significantly larger player base, and server instability as a result. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On June 17 2010 09:24 StarStruck wrote: Yeah, it would be a slap in the face. What's worse is many consumers don't know any better. Here Bill comes again with a remark. What makes you think they won't charge a small fee for cross-regional play smart ass? Unless they make it abundantly clear then there will be something to talk about. You can let them walk all over you for all I care, but I won't let some corporate schmuck try to walk all over me. Have fun purchasing your first car. Not everyone is good negotiator. What makes you think they will? It's all, once again speculation. Just like the speculation that Battle.net 2.0 would require a subscription. Just like the speculation that major tournaments would have to play on the official Battle.net servers. Just like the speculation that there would be no chat channels. Do I even need to continue? Bashiok even says himself NO details are known other than the fact that they want it. Please don't call me out for deciding to evaluate the facts when we get them, not before. What's the point of getting ahead of yourself worrying about stuff that has no evidence will ever happen? | ||
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