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WastedYouth
Profile Joined March 2006
United States563 Posts
May 19 2010 12:30 GMT
#61
just find a good ventrilo server. Or use ours
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D-Lite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
May 19 2010 12:31 GMT
#62
TOO LONG DID NOT READ

User was temp banned for this post.
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HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
May 19 2010 12:35 GMT
#63
We're agreed. This is pathetic and Blizzard is a joke for not implementing chat channels. It's an aggravating and bewildering decision that Blizzard has yet to give a clear answer for. Even worse than omitting LAN.

Why would you intentionally limit functionality? It just reeks of such arrogance. Truly disgusting.
You can figure out the other half.
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
May 19 2010 12:39 GMT
#64
It's a shame there's not chat. And the announcement that chat won't be in the release didn't help. I actually believe that it prevents me from playing more.
And forgive me nothing for I truly meant it all
Kambo_Rambo
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia79 Posts
May 19 2010 12:43 GMT
#65
I remember reading somewhere that chat rooms won't be available on release - but rather in a future patch. Could someone please find and link the sauce?
You require more vespene minerals?
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
May 19 2010 12:46 GMT
#66
I raged over these issues so many times in other threads. I totally agree with your view. B.net2.0 is as soulless as it gets.

Just imagine we had a tl.net channel when beta went live (hilarious) and the little other rooms that would spawn with it, all the clans who represent in their channel or just simple meetup points for tournaments.

I will play of course, but over the amount of months and years without features like online replays and chatrooms would make it so massively dull. I can see myself play 3-4 games and then leave because there is nothing that binds you to it but playing.
ohIdentity
Profile Joined March 2010
United States52 Posts
May 19 2010 12:49 GMT
#67
On May 19 2010 19:04 Metaspace wrote:
Without chatrooms, I wont buy this game, and recommend all other not to.

And please shut up about how SC1 was not perfect at the start - we are talking about a basic feature present in all decent online games, including SC1 - why go away from it?
Please do not tell me you think it would have been such a terrible effort to include it in the beta.

Unless proven wrong, one has to assume Blizzard left this one out for a specific reason, and that it will not come except public opinion dictates it.

Wait, seriously?

You might as well go play Perfect World or something if chatting is that important to you in a game.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
May 19 2010 12:52 GMT
#68
On May 19 2010 21:49 ohIdentity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 19:04 Metaspace wrote:
Without chatrooms, I wont buy this game, and recommend all other not to.

And please shut up about how SC1 was not perfect at the start - we are talking about a basic feature present in all decent online games, including SC1 - why go away from it?
Please do not tell me you think it would have been such a terrible effort to include it in the beta.

Unless proven wrong, one has to assume Blizzard left this one out for a specific reason, and that it will not come except public opinion dictates it.

Wait, seriously?

You might as well go play Perfect World or something if chatting is that important to you in a game.


im not saying hes right, but if you dont think chatting and a good social framework for bnet is important, you are missing out on alot of the fun online gaming offers.
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
May 19 2010 13:02 GMT
#69
I WANT TO GO TO OP TOT) and be fake afk to read the conversatiton!!!
I Can Fly...
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 19 2010 13:07 GMT
#70
My friends and I just use skype or vent, and it works fine. Granted, if they don't eventually put in channels etc. that's really bad, but I'm sure they will eventually.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
ohIdentity
Profile Joined March 2010
United States52 Posts
May 19 2010 13:07 GMT
#71
On May 19 2010 21:52 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 21:49 ohIdentity wrote:
On May 19 2010 19:04 Metaspace wrote:
Without chatrooms, I wont buy this game, and recommend all other not to.

And please shut up about how SC1 was not perfect at the start - we are talking about a basic feature present in all decent online games, including SC1 - why go away from it?
Please do not tell me you think it would have been such a terrible effort to include it in the beta.

Unless proven wrong, one has to assume Blizzard left this one out for a specific reason, and that it will not come except public opinion dictates it.

Wait, seriously?

You might as well go play Perfect World or something if chatting is that important to you in a game.


im not saying hes right, but if you dont think chatting and a good social framework for bnet is important, you are missing out on alot of the fun online gaming offers.


Yeah, it was a really nice feature of Bnet, I mean I've been playing SC1/D2 for years and years but I mean...to not even buy the game because of it? That's unreal. It sounds like he's just saying that to stick by his OP, but he's probably already pre-ordered the game. Ha.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
May 19 2010 13:12 GMT
#72
i kinda expected them to add chat channels so i wasn't is outrage over this, but im seriously getting worried. What total fucking brain meltdown could cause them to think chat channels aren't an essential part of the battle.net experience? really no sarcasm here, this is incredibly retarded by blizzard.
Coraz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 13:39:31
May 19 2010 13:23 GMT
#73
This isn't xbox shooter game, this is a computer game

computers have keyboards attached to them

I demand chatrooms in my online multiplayer game. How will you have clan channels and stuff? And what other Blizzard game doesnt have chatrooms since Diablo came out over 1000 years ago?

What is this, 1989?



edit: I havent met anyone on sc2 so far because its just random forced matches with strangers who disappear forever when the game is over, so I have to post on TL forums instead
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ymirheim
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 13:29:13
May 19 2010 13:25 GMT
#74
I too want a social structure within the game beyond the instant messaging stuff which is not in itself bad btw. The msn like functionality and the ability to create parties is amazing for one on one communication, theorycrafting with practice partners and just having some chilled discussions in a game party without having to agree on channels. The current system is good for the aspects of the game that it is meant to be for.

A more public chat system however or some kind of channel system is essential for filling certain other aspects of the social side. Everyone wants such a system and blizzard has in fact more than once said that they ARE adding such a system so I don't understand why these threads won't die.
I doubt you will see this chat system in the beta, because from a game developers point of view it makes no sense. You can test a communication platform in house without setting up more distractions for the beta testers who you want to spend 100% of their time actually playing the game. Expect to see chat on July 27'th though.

Something I would love to see added though and I have not heard anything about this being implemented is some functionality for sorting and structuring your buddy list into categories or something. That would be infinitely helpful in getting rid of some of the chaos of having anything more than 20 friends.
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michiko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States75 Posts
May 19 2010 13:40 GMT
#75
On May 19 2010 19:04 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 19 2010 19:01 KwarK wrote:
Chat channels are great but I can't believe you can't find anyone to talk to while playing sc2. I mean you're posting on a forum filled with people playing sc2. How is it that you can't see a solution to your problem of not knowing anyone who plays sc2? There must be some way of contacting other people who share your interest.

even though i have friends in the beta i barely have any interest playing it, there is nothing to make me want to go online, nowhere to idle and just chat about w/e or meet new people.

Furthermore, I've known Tabyling for a long time now (05 i think?). We met on bnet and are good friends. The sheer amount of time we spent repping/chatcrafting in random channels etc far out weighs the time we actually spent gaming. Perhaps we're just not much of the gaming type, but the social aspects of SC1 are desperately lacking in SC2.

To date, my only fond memory of SC2 is gaming with Manifesto otherwise I've been mostly bored out of my skull. A few interesting questions to ask yourself are

- How many games of SC2 can I recall vividly? (compare w/ SC1)
- How many memories have I made during SC2? (compare w/ SC1 and specifically, where those memories occurred).


I just want to, first, agree with the OP and most of the follow up posts. Blizzard, really needs to add some core functionality that was/is missing during beta.

I really don't see a point to chat channels or replay watching in a beta environment; i truly don't, these things should not be a part of beta...

We are generation Y in that regard, the generation of entitlement. Don't, for a second, think we deserve anything!

Those features, the ball is really in Blizz's court. This is not 1998 anymore, SC2 will not dominate the scenes blindly as it did back in the 20th and early 21st century - if Blizz wants to take a shot at connecting the RTS communities, it's gotta provide features...I hope and highly assume, they understand this.

--Now the "How many memories have I made during SC2 comment...."--

Take that question and frame it in the context of any frickin thing in your life, things that caused great emotion and/or memory in the past will be MUCH harder to trump later in life. I remember CoD 1 & 2 causing such great emotion and energy (epic SP), but no longer does that happen.

Anyway - Have faith!

DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 13:58:47
May 19 2010 13:57 GMT
#76
I agree with pretty much everyone here that, without the channels and chatting, the beta seems to be cold and distant in comparison to our usual friends and clans in SC1 (and the future social networking with Facebook- if this is more than just a rumor- is going to be a complete joke IMO)...

But a question about that:

Was it absolutely necessary that they include those things (namely channels) in the beta? I mean, the beta is about finding imbalances and problems with the gameplay itself, right? Maybe they just assumed that whatever StarCraft Channels 2.0 they were going to implement didn't require our input? I mean, I really never had a problem with the original StarCraft channels (though I'm sure they'll look much different in SC2). With the exception of the spambots, of course... but then you just move to a new channel and tell your friends. So perhaps Blizzard didn't want to give everything away about StarCraft 2 (or maybe the whole thing isn't even set up yet!), and only wanted us to help balance the races as much as possible?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Spidermonkey
Profile Joined April 2010
United States251 Posts
May 19 2010 14:09 GMT
#77
In 1998 two neighbors and I began playing StarCraft. We stumbled onto a channel that had some ex-beta ladder players in it and they were pretty good. This channel became our home and during the next few months after launch more people started showing up in this channel.

As it turned out during one of our in between game converstations, a large portion of us lived in California... not only in California but we realized that 5 of us lived in the same city. We met up a few days later and since 1998 those have been some of my closet friends. I've lived with them, drank with them, been to weddings, kids births, and graduation parties.

All because we happend to be in the same SC channel 12 years ago. This can't happen now.
~ Richard Trahan
yomi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States773 Posts
May 19 2010 14:14 GMT
#78
It is odd coming off of WoW for them to not focus on the social aspects of SC2 more. Facebook integration? Welcome to reality Blizz, we don't use facebook to talk to our internet gaming friends.
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
May 19 2010 14:17 GMT
#79
I'm fairly certian we'll be seening new functionality after the servers come back up for the last 2 weeks.

Personally... as former wow player the thought that I'll be chatting with my wow buds while playing is farly big. I'm sure most of the social feature are just like 3v3 and 4v4 they don't need tuning so they want everyone online playing what they want to test
Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
May 19 2010 14:23 GMT
#80
If I remember correctly, Bnet 2.0 will interegrate all Blizzard games and the incoming ones, including Diablo 3 eventually. As I think its been said before, as much as we don't agree with it the purpose of the StarCraft beta was to balance the game in multiplayer, not checking if the community will use a chatroom system or not. They really wanted us to play, not sit in a chat room so much.

Which they did, so they probably got what they want, and I expect that when they close down and return the beta in the last few weeks before the game comes out, I believe some sort of chat system (Not the PM one) will be inserted into the Battle.net.
I'll be one person to say that I'm kind of excited that they're integrating the games together in causeBnet, cause a lot of my friends play WoW, not SC2. >:
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