[N] Sicilian Mafia Style - Page 38

On July 20 2013 09:47 Ace wrote:
crazy thing is I only voted VE on a whim. Didn't care if he lived or died. If I wanted to really kill him for claiming I would have interacted with him. Never even spoke to him, or anyone else in the thread about his claim.

I just went to sleep.

On July 20 2013 08:58 kholly wrote:
After much discussion in PMs, it was decided that I should post the following:

Vivax was checked last night. He is mafia.

On July 20 2013 10:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Damn this town is just brimming with detectives.

I checked Ace like I said I was going to and got SK

On July 20 2013 10:49 FirmTofu wrote:

Is SK a frameable outcome? Looks like Ace would be the better lynch because SK reduces KPN, whereas mafia doesn't.
I'm not sure whether we should trust MZ considering he also claimed on Night 1 for no reason.

Let's look at our possible lynches today.
FirmTofu - I'm town. Ace lied when he said he checked me. DrH is the only one with a case against me.
Ace - MZ says he checked Ace and got SK
Vivax - kush says he's mafia according to what someone said in a PM
kholly - chez who is playing like mafia chez
Oatsmaster - rayn says he knew too much information about Gumshoe's death.

I would be willing to lynch kholly or Ace. I'm leaning toward Ace because SK is far more dangerous than potential mafia and we can always lynch MZ if he lied.

On July 20 2013 10:49 FirmTofu wrote:
Let's look at our possible lynches today.
FirmTofu - I'm town. Ace lied when he said he checked me. DrH is the only one with a case against me.
Ace - MZ says he checked Ace and got SK
Vivax - kush says he's mafia according to what someone said in a PM
kholly - chez who is playing like mafia chez
Oatsmaster - rayn says he knew too much information about Gumshoe's death.

I would be willing to lynch kholly or Ace. I'm leaning toward Ace because SK is far more dangerous than potential mafia and we can always lynch MZ if he lied.

On July 20 2013 11:18 Adam4167 wrote:


FirmTofu, for someone who so vehemently denounces meta usage, why are you willing to lynch kholly for what is a pure meta read on a player that isn't even confirmed to be that player?

On July 20 2013 11:35 Ace wrote:
Just let Tofu troll himself to death. "lynch ace so we know if MZ is lying, even though Ace already admitted to lying"

hahahahahahahaha

On July 16 2013 13:49 FirmTofu wrote:
3) I cannot read any of the players in this game well. I am against the use of meta in general, so even if I could read them based on past play, I would never make a case on them based on it.

On July 17 2013 10:56 FirmTofu wrote:
This is actually absolutely ridiculous. I will not respond to any additional arguments that center around meta because I am fundamentally against using it to divine alignments. Any good player should know that meta is subject to WIFOM and is nearly always meaningless.

On July 20 2013 11:37 FirmTofu wrote:

When meta is one of the only methods of reading someone, I am forced to use it to justify a lynch on an unconstructive player. I've already run through why kholly is a good lynch aside from meta in many of my posts. His voting patterns are consistent with scum ideology and he is useless to town.

I might as well be clear. I don't think the reasoning that kholly=chez and chez=mafia chez justifies the lynch by itself. I am using meta to convince other people to vote for someone I find scummy because of different reasons.

His voting patterns are consistent with scum ideology and he is useless to town.

On July 20 2013 11:34 Korynne wrote:


Hmm let's see...

FirmTofu - You claim you're town, that's nice. Ace probably lied, that's nice too. Still weirded out by the fact that you say DrH is the only one with a case against you, so he's the only one that deserves to get you killed? Also pretty sure last time I checked one case is enough, if enough people are convinced. Forget this whole Ace/FT shenanigans there's plenty of evidence to lynch you without that.

Did I miss the part where you and MZ are total bffs? MZ says he checked Ace and that's immediately accepted? Also SK is not an immediate lynch target is it? If there's people who actually look really scummy, like say, you, then we should probably lynch you first.

I guess I also missed the part where you were bffs with kuch. Closest thing I would say is layabout was claiming he was going to make a case against Vivax, and then just completely dropped that claim. layabout is completely unmentioned by you.

kholly - Sure whatever.

Oatsmaster - Same deal as Vivax, not sure how they magically made it to the possible lynches list. It's like you took everyone who even had a finger accidentally pointed in their direction.

(MZ) - oh wait, you didn't put your bff on this list? Oh wait, it's another FirmTofu no guys he can't be scum because that other guy is scum (Ace).

(SnB) - he was on your scum list, don't see him on this list. Why the sudden change of heart? There's enough other people who think he's scummy and should be lynched. Side note does nobody else notice the ##kill thing? xD Like, we're just completely ignoring that or what? Or we waiting to see what mods say first?


Why so scummy FT? :3

[[Don't mind the tone of voice in this post, it was for artistic flair. Not claiming it was good, just saying, it wasn't like, I'm mad at chu or nething. =P ]]

On July 20 2013 11:37 FirmTofu wrote:

When meta is one of the only methods of reading someone, I am forced to use it to justify a lynch on an unconstructive player. I've already run through why kholly is a good lynch aside from meta in many of my posts. His voting patterns are consistent with scum ideology and he is useless to town.

I might as well be clear. I don't think the reasoning that kholly=chez and chez=mafia chez justifies the lynch by itself. I am using meta to convince other people to vote for someone I find scummy because of different reasons.

On July 20 2013 11:58 Adam4167 wrote:



Lets take this a step further. Even assuming that kholly is Chezinu - Is this your meta read, or someone else's?

I don't think you've played more than one game with Chezinu and from what I can see, hes still unflipped in that game. So how in the shite can you have a meta read on him if you're working with a sample of 1 game where hes not even dead.

If you're using someone else's meta read to justify your lynch on a player, when you don't even believe meta is a credible tool, why wouldn't you just say 'He scum because he votes like shit and doesn't scum hunt. The End."?

You are the Viglante! You win with the town. Once per game at night you may choose a player to kill. Your kill is last to be resolved and will be refunded should someone else have killed that player.