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The Macho Man
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:09 The Macho Man wrote: Why would adam as scum initiate a duel? seem to me he was far from being the most likely to be called out. And the second smurf fail. ITS ONLY DAY ONE KEEP IT COMING :D | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:09 The Macho Man wrote: Why would adam as scum initiate a duel? seem to me he was far from being the most likely to be called out. for my filter | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Duel 1 Vote Count Adam4167 (2): yamato77, Sylencia Keirathi (1): thrawn2112 7 votes needed to lynch. If a majority is not reached in 40.5 hours by 07:40 GMT (+00:00), both duelists will die. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
hrmm can kill adam for being stupid can kill kier for being useless must ponder that. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
##Vote: Adam Why am I voting for Adam? The first thing is that I did not like heroes, Adam is trying to take matters into his own hands and is basically defying the wishes of the town to come to a good and informed decision. He's taking matters into his own hands and is basically making a rash and hasty decision for the rest of the town. The second thing is that Adam has been doing all of this proclaiming that being aggressive is pro-town (Yamato never said anything of the sort). In my opinion, he is trying to gain town cred by doing something that he said was pro-town (trying to give himself town cred, as Acro pointed out) and is attacking lynchbait in Kei. If we lynch Kei and he flips town, Adam is just going to say he played like a weak town and that he had us all fooled. I'm not convinced enough on Kei to see him die now. I was only ok with him dueling if it was because Thrawn picked him. I see a lot more scum motivation behind Adam's rashness. The fact that the votes already given out so far are all around the board mean that the chances of a scum being here is pretty high. I hate heroes anyways. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Woah did not expect that. First things first: 1) I'd prefer not to double-lynch. Forcing people to take sides is in our best interest information-wise. Deciding on a double-lynch right now is a cop-out. 2) Adam's duel doesn't look that bad to me. Consider his opening post: On February 25 2013 10:06 Adam4167 wrote: This started 30 minutes after i went to bed, bleh =( I agree with Yamato, If i see scum, i'll make my case and duel them. Forcing two other people to duel at your behest is weak - man up, take responsibility for your reads. Dieno, your opening post was quite bad. You seem to be trying to make friends with and please everyone, while saying absolutely nothing of value. Step it up or get dueled tomorrow. He thought Kei was scum, and dueled him. I think his decision was stupid, but it's consistent with how he approached the game. If I had to pick one, I'd lynch Kei right now. Kei hasn't done anything to prove to me that he's town. He's lurked a lot, and his case on Adam wasn't very strong. Adam has approached this game with a lot more bravado than I'd expect from his scum persona. ##Vote Keirathi | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
I don't buy the motivation of Adam to auto duel if he's scum. Yamato, what is it exactly that makes you think he's more scummy that Keirathi other than that? Wreaks of over-zealous town.... like the ENTIRE rest of his filter. I find it interesting that this entire move leaves people like Thrawn and Dieno out. The only motivation for Adam to aggressively duel like that is if he thought there was a real fear of being matched up with another Mafia (Thrawn?) If that's the case then the Adam lynch seems to give the most information. I just don't see anything in either filter that would warrant a vote if this was a normal Mafia game..... | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17961 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:18 iamperfection wrote: oh we can kill both hrmm can kill adam for being stupid can kill kier for being useless must ponder that. No. No No No. I'm trying not to OMGUS here, but this is a horrendous idea. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:47 Acrofales wrote: @Iamp, Hapa, Alderan: explain to me why Adam's situation is different from Meapak's shot in Bang Bang Mafia 2. Not familiar with it. Got a link? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9640 Posts
We need to lynch scum and for those saying killing both isnt taking a stance it is. It means i can see arguments for either one being scum. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:47 Acrofales wrote: @Iamp, Hapa, Alderan: explain to me why Adam's situation is different from Meapak's shot in Bang Bang Mafia 2. Didn't see the spoiler in your post. It went about as well as I thought it would. He shot someone, and was then shot and flipped GF. Thats exactly why I would assume scum wouldn't do it. Pretty far from optimal play imo.... | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17961 Posts
you know that the TL search button works just as well for you as it does for me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340480 Day 3 was the shot, and Ace actually updates the important posts links. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17961 Posts
On February 26 2013 17:31 Adam4167 wrote: How was this horrible? I think hes scum, he's suspicious of me (but not directly calling me scum). Half the town thinks hes scum, half the town has me null or worse. It should provide a wealth of information, if not a scum death. Which is a 50% OMGUS and 50% sheep. You stated the reason for dueling was because you trust your own scumreads, yet that is not what it looks like at the moment. Explain clearly why you suddenly saw red on Keirathi. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:56 iamperfection wrote: if he here one more thing about oh we need information or crap like that i swear to god im going to jump off a bridge. We need to lynch scum and for those saying killing both isnt taking a stance it is. It means i can see arguments for either one being scum. Taking a stance?... wat.... Hey town, how about we not take a stance on things like double lynching townies. can kill adam for being stupid can kill kier for being useless Neither of those are good enough reasons to lynch. So again, let's NOT "take a stand". | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:56 Acrofales wrote: you know that the TL search button works just as well for you as it does for me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340480 Day 3 was the shot, and Ace actually updates the important posts links. Glad I didn't search it. Appreciate the anecdotal example of bad scum play, though. Really adds to the conversation. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On February 25 2013 11:01 Adam4167 wrote: I didn't imply I wanted to duel, I specifically stated it. You deem it 'way sketchy'. Is that scummy? if you think its scummy, then call it what it is. Its not 'PLAY BETTER OR DIE' its 'you have less than 24 hours to change my mind, or we duel'. Contradiction in action -- while he did promise he'd duel people whether town agreed with him or not, he inferred he would wait until the end of the day so we could get discussion going. On February 26 2013 16:56 Adam4167 wrote: People can discuss it now. If they don't agree with my decision, then they can vote accordingly. You were trying to back out of a half-assed scum read after a day of doing nothing because the thread wasn't biting. What kind of townie invites others to lynch him based on policy reasons? On February 26 2013 21:49 Adam4167 wrote: LOL YEP, that quote looks quite bad. I really wish I was scum, it'd make post-game far more bearable. Town claim, and a fatalistic view. Town Adam just dropped the hammer and DUELED Keirathi because he's 95% coinfident in KEirathi scum. Town Adam would be pushing HARD for a Keirathi lynch -- not talking about how bad he'll feel when he's inevitably lynched. I mean, this was all under his control -- he STARTED the lynch. Why is he so fatalistic about it? What happened to "Take this into my own hands" Adam? On February 26 2013 17:46 Adam4167 wrote: My mafia play is lurky and passive, its right there in Hero mafia for everyone to see. If you think this is my mafia game, you're delusional. This isn't a defense -- this is saying that you're not mafia because Mafia Adam behaves X way. All of Adam's effort post-duel have been him trying to prove that he's not scummy and defending his duel, instead of the supposed POINT of his duel -- lynching Keirathi. + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2013 21:15 Adam4167 wrote: I cant even promise that this wont happen again if I survive this cycle. This is what really worries me -- that Adam is Insane Town and if unchecked he will literally decide every single lynch choice for the rest of the game until we lynch him instead. This would mean a policy lynch of Adam, and I think that is not necessarily a very good move for town. If we're not convinced that Adam is scum, we need to persuade him against this behavior. But he looks pretty scummy, so this is kind of a moot point. I think Adam looks really scummy, but I'm not voting for him right now. In this format, there's no time limit, so there's no way for people to unvote in response to a mafia bandwagon. If Adam gets all the votes to lynch him too quickly, multiple people can get away without voting or taking any stance at all between these two players. So I am withholding my vote until a bigger portion of the town have chimed in. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17961 Posts
On February 27 2013 00:56 Alderan wrote: Didn't see the spoiler in your post. It went about as well as I thought it would. He shot someone, and was then shot and flipped GF. Thats exactly why I would assume scum wouldn't do it. Pretty far from optimal play imo.... Okay, what's the reason town would do it? | ||
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