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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 03 2014 14:00 GMT
#641
I legitimately thought koshi was town. He was on the back foot because people (correctly) called him scum, and was hesitant about sending himself. *note my previous concept of leader-always-goes

This:
On January 01 2014 07:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
So guys...rayn/cora/hopeless

Who needs convincing?


Was largely in response to this (btw dat red stuff doe):
On January 01 2014 05:11 Koshi wrote:
Well if you feel confident about CR scum. I feel confident about Adam/VE

then a Cora/rayn/Hopeless party looks pretty cool.

I think it is better than me in case one rayn/Hopeless is scum. better for me at least.

Grack townish but didn't do enough to also take on a Mission tbh. The things I like are his early town read for Hopeless and his posts concerning the first team. Like saying he would nayvote regardless the first team was and saying that the team already passed while a couple people still had to vote. Kinda makes him look like he is in the dark.


I had not changed my mind, I was feeling out whether people would approve a team of you-me-cora since the existing team was on the cusp of being passed, and we needed to find another townie.
On January 01 2014 05:15 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. Looks like rayn/Hopeless/Koshi has already passed with 5 votes if we got Sentinel vote of approval.




On your reasoning for Cora, the fact that his behavior, posting etc, especially in regards to him banging the Hopeless=scum drum make me read him as town. Explaining this read is insulting to Cora and I don't want to incite any further flaming, so here's hoping that would suffice as an explanation.


I concluded koshi is the spy because you are not the spy, I am not the spy and the mission failed. Lets suppose I am the spy, there's no chance I can paint you red. I HAVE to go for Koshi here as either alignment.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 03 2014 14:03 GMT
#642
Adam is likely scum for exactly what is in your case on him. Like I cant rephrase it better than your tl;dr.

CR is a spy because I'm OMGUS'ing on him and I need to pick apart his case on me next.

Koshi is spy by 50/50 elimination.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 03 2014 14:08 GMT
#643
On January 03 2014 23:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
I legitimately thought koshi was town. He was on the back foot because people (correctly) called him scum, and was hesitant about sending himself. *note my previous concept of leader-always-goes

This:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 07:00 Hopeless1der wrote:
So guys...rayn/cora/hopeless

Who needs convincing?


Was largely in response to this (btw dat red stuff doe):
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 05:11 Koshi wrote:
Well if you feel confident about CR scum. I feel confident about Adam/VE

then a Cora/rayn/Hopeless party looks pretty cool.

I think it is better than me in case one rayn/Hopeless is scum. better for me at least.

Grack townish but didn't do enough to also take on a Mission tbh. The things I like are his early town read for Hopeless and his posts concerning the first team. Like saying he would nayvote regardless the first team was and saying that the team already passed while a couple people still had to vote. Kinda makes him look like he is in the dark.


I had not changed my mind, I was feeling out whether people would approve a team of you-me-cora since the existing team was on the cusp of being passed, and we needed to find another townie.
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 05:15 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. Looks like rayn/Hopeless/Koshi has already passed with 5 votes if we got Sentinel vote of approval.




On your reasoning for Cora, the fact that his behavior, posting etc, especially in regards to him banging the Hopeless=scum drum make me read him as town. Explaining this read is insulting to Cora and I don't want to incite any further flaming, so here's hoping that would suffice as an explanation.


I concluded koshi is the spy because you are not the spy, I am not the spy and the mission failed. Lets suppose I am the spy, there's no chance I can paint you red. I HAVE to go for Koshi here as either alignment.

This does not exactly prove you are town as like you said you "had to go against Koshi" as either alignment. Also the first part, i don't understand the reasoning behind your quote you brought up. Koshi was the leader, he decided the team, why are you trying to convince other people about some other team (me/you/Cora)? You were supposed to convince Koshi to suggest a team, not everyone else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 03 2014 14:09 GMT
#644
You also thought Koshi was town, so what the fuck?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 03 2014 14:12 GMT
#645
Like you say you thought Koshi is town and you thought i was town, yet you tried to convince people into picking another team than me/you/Koshi. How does that make sense?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 03 2014 14:16 GMT
#646
So next team would be VE/Sent/Cora/Rayn?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 03 2014 14:41 GMT
#647
On January 03 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you say you thought Koshi is town and you thought i was town, yet you tried to convince people into picking another team than me/you/Koshi. How does that make sense?

On January 02 2014 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
add cora for flawless victory grack

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 03 2014 15:13 GMT
#648
On January 02 2014 17:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 10:19 Coagulation wrote:
looking over filters and chairman ray stands out as a pretty experienced player with very little thread presence.

I would throw cora as my #1 scum read just because hes clearly more concerned about nonsense than he is about figuring out the game and thats a pretty big red flag.

I would put my money on one of them being scum.

Why one? The reasons they are scum are not related. You mean that they are both 50/50 town/scum?


Also, this team better not fails. rayn, Hopeless in case you are scummer consider not sending a PM to the hosts.
Also, Koshi totes in the first team. Feels like getting inventor role in PYP.

btw, you wanna talk of preemptive covering of bases
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 03 2014 15:15 GMT
#649
On January 03 2014 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi:
1) What do you think of my case on Adam/Coag?
2) If there was a team suggested that consists of VE's earlier team + rayn, what would you vote? If "nay", why?

1) I had Adam as scum yesterday because how he downvoted his own team. But now I am not sure anymore. Your case is correct but I think we need to put some thought into the fact that eventually Adam made the right call to Nay the team because 1 of Hopeless/rayn is scum, I don't know if Adam did it because he is also scum or that he had the correct gutread. However, I think that if Adam is scum with either Hopeless/rayn he would yay the team. There are still a lot of plays you can do when you bring 2 scummers. 1 could play weak and the other could get towncred because there is a confirmed scummer on the trip. Or you could not sabotage the mission and you suddenly got 2 scummers with a lot of towncred for mission 2/3.
I am not really convinced by Adam scum atm but I wouldn't take him on next mission.

Hopeless I got as 100% scum atm. Last team he suggested he "tries" to nail the 4 town that were left out of Mission 1. While he is screaming he got me pinned as scum. silly guy.

2) 2 scum left besides Hopeless is quite annoying. We need to select 4 townies which means that out the remaining 5 there are 2 townies and 3 scummers left. Kinda insane that you need to do that while it is the basic of mafia that mafia is with less because they can work together to influence the thread. The first stage of the game is so important and that is kind of strange because early stage is favorable for scum.

Many words to say that I don't know. There are 0 reasons for me to believe VE is town. While there are 2 at least to think he is scum. 1) His lies around his nayvote. 2) Not being an influence in this game at all.

Cora? I don't know. It was obvious I was going to take Hopeless. If I wasn't so obvious I would say Cora town and a good bet to take. But now? It's all a bit strange. I explained it in a previous post.

But Cora/VE/Hopeless? Then I am stuck with 5 other names that I am not really sure about. rayn town. Grack town. CR town. Sentinel town. Coag joker?


If I put myself out of the picture I am left with 5 townies and 3 scummers and I need to find 4 townies out of that. I I would use random.org I would have 5/8*4/7*3/6 = 18% chance to be right (if my math is correct). Knowing that I am mostly way more wrong than randomming I am pretty fucking sad atm.


tldr: mafia depression inc.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 03 2014 15:16 GMT
#650
On January 04 2014 00:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 17:39 Koshi wrote:
On January 02 2014 10:19 Coagulation wrote:
looking over filters and chairman ray stands out as a pretty experienced player with very little thread presence.

I would throw cora as my #1 scum read just because hes clearly more concerned about nonsense than he is about figuring out the game and thats a pretty big red flag.

I would put my money on one of them being scum.

Why one? The reasons they are scum are not related. You mean that they are both 50/50 town/scum?


Also, this team better not fails. rayn, Hopeless in case you are scummer consider not sending a PM to the hosts.
Also, Koshi totes in the first team. Feels like getting inventor role in PYP.

btw, you wanna talk of preemptive covering of bases

y u no make rayn name red?


ps: it was a joke.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 03 2014 15:22 GMT
#651
I like hopeless for scum. Also I feel like this is a scumslip.
On January 03 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote:
On January 03 2014 06:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2014 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit i totally forgot CR. I could not ffs find the fifth person that you were talking about and thought it could be scum communication.

I was trying to find something that makes sense from the thread after you made the case on VE and we talked about it and other stuff. I still can't understand why the hell suddenly after that, everyone just yay-votes the team with zero discussion. Even VE, who had you as a scumread and really the only thing you talked about was your case on him.

I conclude Koshi is the spy.

What is your conclusion if Koshi is not a spy.

That is an incredibly stupid question considering there is only 1 possible answer I can give.

It reads like Hopeless KNOWS there's only a single scum on the first mission, which is information a townie wouldn't have.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 03 2014 15:22 GMT
#652
This game has like the worst odds for town to win.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 03 2014 15:23 GMT
#653
On January 04 2014 00:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like hopeless for scum. Also I feel like this is a scumslip.
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote:
On January 03 2014 06:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2014 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit i totally forgot CR. I could not ffs find the fifth person that you were talking about and thought it could be scum communication.

I was trying to find something that makes sense from the thread after you made the case on VE and we talked about it and other stuff. I still can't understand why the hell suddenly after that, everyone just yay-votes the team with zero discussion. Even VE, who had you as a scumread and really the only thing you talked about was your case on him.

I conclude Koshi is the spy.

What is your conclusion if Koshi is not a spy.

That is an incredibly stupid question considering there is only 1 possible answer I can give.

It reads like Hopeless KNOWS there's only a single scum on the first mission, which is information a townie wouldn't have.

You mean to tell me that you dont have rayn as almost 100% town?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 03 2014 15:23 GMT
#654
On January 04 2014 00:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like hopeless for scum. Also I feel like this is a scumslip.
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote:
On January 03 2014 06:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2014 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit i totally forgot CR. I could not ffs find the fifth person that you were talking about and thought it could be scum communication.

I was trying to find something that makes sense from the thread after you made the case on VE and we talked about it and other stuff. I still can't understand why the hell suddenly after that, everyone just yay-votes the team with zero discussion. Even VE, who had you as a scumread and really the only thing you talked about was your case on him.

I conclude Koshi is the spy.

What is your conclusion if Koshi is not a spy.

That is an incredibly stupid question considering there is only 1 possible answer I can give.

It reads like Hopeless KNOWS there's only a single scum on the first mission, which is information a townie wouldn't have.

Well. If rayn and Hopeless are scum together that is a pretty fucking genious line by Hopeless.

Nice catch VE. Nice catch.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 03 2014 15:24 GMT
#655
On January 04 2014 00:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 00:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like hopeless for scum. Also I feel like this is a scumslip.
On January 03 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote:
On January 03 2014 06:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2014 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit i totally forgot CR. I could not ffs find the fifth person that you were talking about and thought it could be scum communication.

I was trying to find something that makes sense from the thread after you made the case on VE and we talked about it and other stuff. I still can't understand why the hell suddenly after that, everyone just yay-votes the team with zero discussion. Even VE, who had you as a scumread and really the only thing you talked about was your case on him.

I conclude Koshi is the spy.

What is your conclusion if Koshi is not a spy.

That is an incredibly stupid question considering there is only 1 possible answer I can give.

It reads like Hopeless KNOWS there's only a single scum on the first mission, which is information a townie wouldn't have.

You mean to tell me that you dont have rayn as almost 100% town?

No I do, but I'd still put him down as possible scum if I were you. And I'm town, soooo....
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 03 2014 15:28 GMT
#656
Did Grack propose a team that I'm missing somewhere? I suggest my team plus Grack, and see where the eff we stand.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 03 2014 15:29 GMT
#657
Wait Hopeless just said that didn't he? Hmmmmzzzzz....
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 03 2014 15:42 GMT
#658
On January 04 2014 00:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wait Hopeless just said that didn't he? Hmmmmzzzzz....

oh gawd the mindgames too stronk
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 03 2014 16:35 GMT
#659
CR you around?
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 03 2014 17:18 GMT
#660
Look guys, I'm going to make this as simple as possible:

Hopeless is scum because when we had the best team suggested so far of Me/VE/Sentinel, his excuse for saying no was to throw lies against me and twist my words to give him some sort of justification to call me scum and disrupt the team. In my opinion, Hopeless saw that this team was all-town and he needed a decent reason to oppose it.

Now that this team failed, he immediately blamed Koshi without analyzing any of Koshi's posts or anything else. He doesn't even open up the possibility that Rayn could be scum. This would make sense from a scum perspective because if I was in scum Hopeless' position, I would attack the weakest target. It would be hard to fake a case on Rayn because he would tear things apart.

After saying Koshi is scum, he has not said anything to back it up. It's pretty obvious.
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