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On January 04 2014 02:18 Corazon wrote:
Look guys, I'm going to make this as simple as possible:
Hopeless is scum because when we had the best team suggested so far of Me/VE/Sentinel, his excuse for saying no was to throw lies against me and twist my words to give him some sort of justification to call me scum and disrupt the team. In my opinion, Hopeless saw that this team was all-town and he needed a decent reason to oppose it.
Now that this team failed, he immediately blamed Koshi without analyzing any of Koshi's posts or anything else. He doesn't even open up the possibility that Rayn could be scum. This would make sense from a scum perspective because if I was in scum Hopeless' position, I would attack the weakest target. It would be hard to fake a case on Rayn because he would tear things apart.
After saying Koshi is scum, he has not said anything to back it up. It's pretty obvious.
And now that the team I was on failed, I've immediately said that the team I downvoted is probably all-town and needs to go today.
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On January 04 2014 02:26 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 02:18 Corazon wrote:
Look guys, I'm going to make this as simple as possible:
Hopeless is scum because when we had the best team suggested so far of Me/VE/Sentinel, his excuse for saying no was to throw lies against me and twist my words to give him some sort of justification to call me scum and disrupt the team. In my opinion, Hopeless saw that this team was all-town and he needed a decent reason to oppose it.
Now that this team failed, he immediately blamed Koshi without analyzing any of Koshi's posts or anything else. He doesn't even open up the possibility that Rayn could be scum. This would make sense from a scum perspective because if I was in scum Hopeless' position, I would attack the weakest target. It would be hard to fake a case on Rayn because he would tear things apart.
After saying Koshi is scum, he has not said anything to back it up. It's pretty obvious. And now that the team I was on failed, I've immediately said that the team I downvoted is probably all-town and needs to go today.
Why did it take until a team failing for you to figure it out? You're trying to get me off of your back.
It doesn't explain your 180 on me and your 180 on Koshi. If you were so sure about Koshi being scum, you wouldn't have voted yes for the team.
Right after the team failed, you should have looked at Koshi's filter and given reasons as to why it is Koshi instead of saying "Koshi is the spy". That is not a town mindset. It's you continuing to find someone to attack and throw shit on to say that you are participating in the game.
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Cora, did I say I flipped a coin or something? You've assumed I didn't read koshi's filter (I did). You never asked for reasoning, you just jumped the gun and said I'm full of shit at every turn.
I thought koshi was town, so I voted yes on the team. Then it failed. Ergo Rayn or Koshi (yes, or me, kthx) is scum. Rayn is not scum because have you read his filter recently? If thats scum rayn I don't want to win this game, he's fucking earned it. Ergo Koshi is scum.
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On January 04 2014 02:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Cora, did I say I flipped a coin or something? You've assumed I didn't read koshi's filter (I did). You never asked for reasoning, you just jumped the gun and said I'm full of shit at every turn.
I thought koshi was town, so I voted yes on the team. Then it failed. Ergo Rayn or Koshi (yes, or me, kthx) is scum. Rayn is not scum because have you read his filter recently? If thats scum rayn I don't want to win this game, he's fucking earned it. Ergo Koshi is scum.
Well I'll drop that point on you b/c I'm not going to convince you that you are scum.
It still doesn't explain your 180 on me and your 180 on me/VE/Sentinel. Your nay vote was terrible on that team and even worse given that you started flinging shit on me as your excuse.
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Cora when this game is over you need to take a long hard look at how a town person is capable of reading you as scum. Your attitude is atrocious and you offer no opportunity for me to improve myself in your eyes. You do not think critically about how OTEHRS view you. I am not you, I don't know you are town but as of now I do believe it. I was not flinging shit. I was identifying qualities I found scummy and relating them to the thread and to you so that people could respond in a rational and direct manner. I'm not making excuses, I'm playing the game, with evolving reads and updated judgements being a part of that.
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You were flinging shit at me! You came up with conclusions that made me look scummy that were far from the truth. Did you read any of my posts that I wrote in response to your accusations?
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dick move by Hopeless or rayn is scum.
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On January 04 2014 03:10 Corazon wrote:
You were flinging shit at me! You came up with conclusions that made me look scummy that were far from the truth. Did you read any of my posts that I wrote in response to your accusations?
Not a damn thing I said was false. You can claim misconstrued, misunderstood, difference of opinion etc. You cannot claim false because at the time I posted, I believed my opinion. My accusations were an opinion based on my observations. That is not flinging shit, that is playing the game. I have since changed my mind about you. I dont necessarily need to change your mind about me, but it would certainly make the game easier to win for us.
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On January 04 2014 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 03:10 Corazon wrote:
You were flinging shit at me! You came up with conclusions that made me look scummy that were far from the truth. Did you read any of my posts that I wrote in response to your accusations? Not a damn thing I said was false. You can claim misconstrued, misunderstood, difference of opinion etc. You cannot claim false because at the time I posted, I believed my opinion. My accusations were an opinion based on my observations. That is not flinging shit, that is playing the game. I have since changed my mind about you. I dont necessarily need to change your mind about me, but it would certainly make the game easier to win for us.
No. They were blatant lies aimed to give you an excuse for voting no to a good team.
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On January 04 2014 03:28 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 04 2014 03:10 Corazon wrote:
You were flinging shit at me! You came up with conclusions that made me look scummy that were far from the truth. Did you read any of my posts that I wrote in response to your accusations? Not a damn thing I said was false. You can claim misconstrued, misunderstood, difference of opinion etc. You cannot claim false because at the time I posted, I believed my opinion. My accusations were an opinion based on my observations. That is not flinging shit, that is playing the game. I have since changed my mind about you. I dont necessarily need to change your mind about me, but it would certainly make the game easier to win for us. No. They were blatant lies aimed to give you an excuse for voting no to a good team.
We'll come back to this post game. You're going to eat your words.
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On January 04 2014 03:32 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 03:28 Corazon wrote:On January 04 2014 03:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 04 2014 03:10 Corazon wrote:
You were flinging shit at me! You came up with conclusions that made me look scummy that were far from the truth. Did you read any of my posts that I wrote in response to your accusations? Not a damn thing I said was false. You can claim misconstrued, misunderstood, difference of opinion etc. You cannot claim false because at the time I posted, I believed my opinion. My accusations were an opinion based on my observations. That is not flinging shit, that is playing the game. I have since changed my mind about you. I dont necessarily need to change your mind about me, but it would certainly make the game easier to win for us. No. They were blatant lies aimed to give you an excuse for voting no to a good team. We'll come back to this post game. You're going to eat your words.
Right after you ride the bench of all of the missions and town cruises to victory.
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I can do that:
Cora VE Rayn Sentinel Grack (Hopeless)
Koshi CR Coag
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I am really really really really not scum Hopeless. Really really not.
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oh cool me neither. no wait youre still scum. also "GUYS HE TALKS LIKE IM TOWN SUCH SCUMSLIP TROLOL" #scumhunting
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On January 04 2014 01:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
CR you around?
I'm here now, but activity will be sparse while I'm at work. I looked through your more recent filters, and also looked through Koshi's and Rayn's. I think you are still the most likely spy out of the three, but that's just a likelihood and I'm not completely sold on it yet. I'm gonna be looking more into it tonight. If you are town, it is just as much my job as it is yours to prove it, since my win condition depends on it as well.
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On January 03 2014 20:17 Chairman Ray wrote:
Eh screw it, I'll copy+paste that part over since the discussion is on that point now
All of this. Every single word, in this thread, NOW. Spoiler it all at your discretion.
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On January 04 2014 05:09 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2014 20:17 Chairman Ray wrote:
Eh screw it, I'll copy+paste that part over since the discussion is on that point now All of this. Every single word, in this thread, NOW. Spoiler it all at your discretion.
What do you hope to find in my inconclusive reads?
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Are you going to do it or not?
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On January 04 2014 05:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
Are you going to do it or not?
I know what's in my reads so far. I'm not comfortable sharing most of it right now simply because it's not done and it will help spies more than town. A lot of it deals with spy strategy and things that I'm looking for that may not have fully occurred yet. Every single town here has their impressions and their hints to go off of. They post it when they make a tangible read and don't go spewing it the second it enters their mind. The only difference is that I like writing paragraphs to help my train of thought. I expect other town to post when they feel is most optimal and I am doing the same.
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