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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 05 2012 19:00 GMT
#641
Marv, that's not what he said.

Eiii, how are we the ones choosing who dies? Ultimately scum shoot who they want to shoot - while it is true that they can make more informed decisions of shots, the same can be said of the daytime too.

Discussion at night is good, especially in a game like this where the majority of deaths are modkills for inactivity. Please post some reads before daybreak.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 05 2012 19:00 GMT
#642
Hey BlackRaven, your current thoughts on Palmer?
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 05 2012 19:01 GMT
#643
While we're here...Kurumi, can we get a final vote count for day1 please? <3

:3
:3
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
May 05 2012 19:01 GMT
#644
On May 06 2012 04:01 BlackRaven wrote:
While we're here...Kurumi, can we get a final vote count for day1 please? <3

:3

Done already o_o
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 05 2012 19:03 GMT
#645
Useless. Someone should shoot him

:3
:3
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 05 2012 19:07 GMT
#646
Why do I not see it.....guys do you see the final vote count?

:3
:3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 05 2012 19:09 GMT
#647
On May 06 2012 04:00 slOosh wrote:
Eiii, how are we the ones choosing who dies? Ultimately scum shoot who they want to shoot - while it is true that they can make more informed decisions of shots, the same can be said of the daytime too.


I meant that I prefer discussing during the day to during the night-- during the day, at least we get to end things with a lynch. At night, we talk about who looks scummy and then mafia kills someone.
:3
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 05 2012 19:23 GMT
#648
Understandable, but I'd disagree. Discussion can help our power roles do their thing, and effective scumhunting can be done regardless of time. It's true mafia may have a more solid understanding of town sentiment, but right now my reads are a couple of townies and a bunch of lurkers. I'd say especially in this kind of situation that we are in (mafia are going to be more cautious), driving discussion is optimal play.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 05 2012 19:23 GMT
#649
P.s. that goes for any / everyone. NT you still haven't shown me anything tonight.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
May 05 2012 20:06 GMT
#650
On May 06 2012 03:48 marvellosity wrote:
Sup l10f.

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:06 l10f wrote:
Hey guys, I'm town this game ^____________^


On May 03 2012 08:39 Katina wrote:
Mr. Blazinghand I say this once and once only. I'm not mafia. Point your Blazinghand at someone who actually deserves it.


Who do you think actually deserves it then? Not many people have posted yet, not too many people to blame. You've just stood out among the few~ Doesn't mean you're mafia, every discussion helps though!


Let's kinda point some fingers... but not call someone scummy at the same time. Let's discuss things, yay!

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On May 05 2012 13:00 l10f wrote:
Sorry guys, it was last day of class and I was very busy!

Grush suspected both Katina and sinani, and DoYouHas had a strong case on Katina as well.

Layabout defending Katina and convinced the town to vote for BM instead. I suspect him of being scum. The remaining two scums are probably also in the BM bandwagon near the middle.


Fluffy apology. Summary summary summary. Fingerpointing followed by some nice unprovable speculation about the BM lynch.

Anything concrete to say?


I think layabout is scum. How 2 be more concrete? By adding quotes like other people?


On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:
Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence.

I do not think we should lynch katina.

Do other people think that this is BS?
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On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM.

(I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far)

##Vote Layabout


//Dirk


On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:
Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad.

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On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum

Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out)

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On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...

katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen.

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On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party.


Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia.

On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.

Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font.

modkill for role PM shit?

idk how to answer this without breaking rules..

you are scum... all townies will know this

-mattchew


You are pretty quick be calling people scum


Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town.


Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense...


You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum.

##unvote
##vote: Katina


come at me bro


Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA.

Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.

Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote.

Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop.

If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what



On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray!


Both of which of from the very beginning of the game



Both hard defending Katina, who was active in the forums so he probably didn't think he would be modkilled, therefore didn't bus him.


On May 05 2012 05:49 layabout wrote:
Look how few votes the candidate have

Look how weak the cases are

Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote

See how unlikely we are to hit mafia

Lynch a player that will be anti town either way.
Vote BillMurray


Pushes Bill Murray to take the focus away from Katina, and succeeds.

I'm not a great player, but even I can see that that looks pretty scummy. Especially since Katina flipped red. I remember someone once said that townies don't usually hard defend people unless they are sure they are town and it's going to be obvious that he would be lynched if no one stepped up. I don't think Katina would have been lynched either way, but layabout first said we should vote someone else, then later found a target in BM.
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 05 2012 20:21 GMT
#651
Sloosh, thoughts on jdub?

:3
:3
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 20:22 GMT
#652
On May 05 2012 07:07 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 07:04 Bill Murray wrote:
well, layabout hopping on the lynch makes me really suspect him
he would normally leave me around if he's town
of my wagon, i would like you all to lynch layabout

I am sick of leaving you around it has caused nothing but trouble


Town should keep in mind BM's last wish before we lynched him. I haven't completely read into laya except for the points people have made against him so I shall further delve into his filter when Day starts.
t(ツ)t
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 05 2012 20:37 GMT
#653
On May 06 2012 05:21 BlackRaven wrote:
Sloosh, thoughts on jdub?

:3

He spends some time with blubbdavid incident, concludes that what he did (asking powerrole) is scummy but then moves onto Grush, fosing him for "obvious reasons". Clearly pushing along BM wagon, with reasons like
On May 05 2012 05:47 johnnywup wrote:
I'm gonna vote for BM because I don't want him to survive to lategame. He's disruptive to scumhunting.

not because he is scum. Could be residual stress from LIII so not totally conclusive.
Has responded unreasonably aggressively to pressure.

Conclusion: Probably scum.
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 20:44 GMT
#654
I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance.

+ Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +
On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:
Cool, lets's go

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty.

Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him.

Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he?

:3


All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing more

On May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond.


This is wrong

- D


How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong?


If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around.

People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so.

Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment.

-D


This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH.


BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people.

And his D1 vote:
On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...

##Vote: layabout

-D


goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't."
I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS
t(ツ)t
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 05 2012 20:56 GMT
#655
Theres a bunch of other people who havent posted anything of significance tonight either.
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 05 2012 21:00 GMT
#656
Paqman you should know I don't play like normal people

Try to apply logic to me and you will fail

-D
:3
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 05 2012 21:18 GMT
#657
On May 06 2012 05:44 PaqMan wrote:
I don't like BlackRaven's posting. He has only two posts that are of any sort of significance.

+ Show Spoiler [BR's two significant posts] +
On May 04 2012 03:51 BlackRaven wrote:
Cool, lets's go

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 02:47 DoYouHas wrote:
Palmar's confrontational and empty 1 liners make it impossible to get a read on him. (anti-town) He is shutting down conversation instead of fostering it. (anti-town) I have no interest in keeping someone around who I won't be able to get a handle on and who I think is hurting the town.

##Vote: Palmar


Firstly, confrontational and empty is an oxymoron in Mafia. Confrontation brings discussion. Discussion good. Discussion not make posts empty.

Secondly, not having a read on someone does not make him anti-town. It makes him just another player in the game. It sure as hell isn't a reason to vote him.

Thirdly.....well see the first point about your second one. He got you talking didn't he?

:3


All this post achieves is soft-defending Palmar and nothing more

On May 04 2012 03:53 BlackRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 03:47 DoYouHas wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:42 BlackRaven wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:30 DoYouHas wrote:
Oh, and btw. You are defending Palmar by attacking the person going after him. You discredit me and Palmar no longer has a need to respond.


This is wrong

- D


How is fitting the definition of a chainsaw defense wrong?


If a player ever uses a chainsaw defence as an actual defence they are scum there is no leeway about it and its bad play all around.

People should never use other peoples arguments to make them appear either townie or scum its just bad play and they deserve to be lynched if they do so.

Me and Hassy both still expect things from Palmar at some stage we just both dislike you at the moment.

-D


This entire post is just an altercation with DYH and contributes nothing of value except for the fact that BR doesn't like DYH.


BR's entire filter literally contains nothing more than pointless one-liners. The only thing he's done is ask other people questions and make comments to the side that add no value to discussion. He doesn't make any scumreads nor does he form serious opinions on people.

And his D1 vote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 03:22 BlackRaven wrote:
You know I liked layabout at the start but now he is probably going to cause more harm than if I was a medic...

##Vote: layabout

-D


goes without any sort of good explanation besides "I like him, now I don't."
I see him as a possible lynch candidate if he doesn't pick it up and he's earned my FoS


I don't like basing decisions on meta, but I can say having played with BlackRaven in the past... lots of confrontational 1 liners is par for the course for his town play. I am null on him at the moment and I believe there are better targets at the moment.
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 05 2012 21:18 GMT
#658
Also, your vote on BM neutralises any opinion that you have in this game. You picked a target with reasoning like this?

On May 04 2012 10:39 PaqMan wrote:
I'm moving my vote to BM for now. Scum or not, he's more detrimental to town, especially if he survives to late game. He's what some people call "insane"?


At what point was insanity a good reason to vote for someone? Especially when you spent the entire day FoSing sloosh, then insta-switching when there's a bandwagon going on? Your reasoning is balls.

My knife is pretty useful against sheep too Sir

:3
:3
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 21:34:36
May 05 2012 21:27 GMT
#659
Day 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-tl6wfkEhU&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLzBwJmlkR7m0DlCE4BmG1tw

I unboxed Strange Backscratcher two days ago. Sucks.

flavour will be added... sorry guys.(it's not like You're missing something interesting anyway, that's for sure. Like Skadovsk staying in one place.)
slOosh, Palmar and BlackRaven the BLU Depressed Soldiers were found dead after Sandvich break.

You have 48 hours to decide this day's lynch, as always. Deadline is 21:00 GMT (+00:00)
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 21:40 GMT
#660
Will the vig claim?
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