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Yeah, mafia is going to hit SlOosh real hard, as he is 2/2, calling out both sinani and katina.
I believe the lynching of BM was orchestrated by the red. The plan for red might have been to target veterans who are slightly inactive. As we can see, Katina passively pushed for lynching of BM.
On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.
Keeping this is mind, I would like to bring up marvellosity.
1. His first few post was to bring Palmer into attention. No, he didn't vote for him, but just bringing him up and possibly started a bandwagon is good enough.
2. He gives his read on NT, saying he "looks the scummiest" but then votes for BM(yes, I voted BM too, I will explain my change of heart if it isn't clear enough-_-), claiming same reason as layabout. His willingness to switch sides so fast is a little scummy.
3. He defends Katina by basically saying she has odd posting style. By association, this also is a little suspicious and him adding on saying that DoYouHas nailed it actually made it sound even worst for me.
I would like to conclude by saying that this was pieced together AFTER I assumed he was red. I would like to ask others to help me analyse marvellosity from the point of view of blue.
Basically: FoS on marvellosity
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On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:So you haven't shown why these things are necessarily scum tells. Because I can and have explained them from a town POV. Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.
If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM. If you think I'm scum then yea keep pushing me. TBH yea I haven't really shown anything that should give you a strong town read but I never claimed confirmed town - I said what I did so that you would think things through instead of trying to force events into preconceived reads instead of pulling reads objectively out of events.
1. Did I blame you for BM getting lynched? Nope.
On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way.
If you thought the lynch was bull WHY DIDNT YOU TELL US NO. Why didn't you say some sort OBJECTION if you thought it was bull? If you thought the lynch was a mistake for town why did you not mention it? Why did you not say "Hey guys I don't like this idea of lynching BM"?
Because you wanted town to make a mislynch.
On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
So you haven't shown why these things are necessarily scum tells. Because I can and have explained them from a town POV.
You saw the deadline was in 30 minutes, you saw your scumbuddy Katina hadn't voted and that she wasn't on. You basically knew she would get modkilled so you put a vote on her.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 13:46 slOosh wrote:Please stop with the spam people. If this is the rate at which D1 will plan out then we won't be getting anywhere. Consolidate your posts and don't throw out one liners so freely. I'm inclined to think that blubbdavid just didn't read, which is more indicative of VT rather than power role / scum. Blazinghand's case isn't that strong, and was probably more for discussion purposes, given the fact that he has already moved on to voting for two other players. Now, as we wait for people to start checking in, I'd like to get some actual discussion going. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 09:35 sinani206 wrote:
hi. im not sure if blubs thingy was a scumslip. also why the fuck does everyone make a big deal about kenpachi every fucking game? Neutral stance on blub, no comment on katina etc., blowing situation out of proportion (there was only 1 post made voting kenpachi and two small responses. hardly a big deal as he puts it) Thoughts? You begin by trying to start discussion around Sinani, On May 04 2012 13:35 slOosh wrote:
Dear Paqman, please stop spamming and consolidate your posts. You hold 60% of the posts this page, and it makes it harder for us to read everything.
Still waiting for something from sinani206.
##Vote: sinani206 You pressure him with a vote, On May 04 2012 23:40 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 15:00 sinani206 wrote:On May 04 2012 13:35 slOosh wrote:
Dear Paqman, please stop spamming and consolidate your posts. You hold 60% of the posts this page, and it makes it harder for us to read everything.
Still waiting for something from sinani206.
##Vote: sinani206 Nice two posts about me. Got anything on anyone else? Also, to confirm, day ends at 21:00 GMT (+00:00), right? Why, as a townie, do you show absolutely no interest in proving your innocence in the form of contributions? And this is a really good point against Sinani that I agree with, but after this post you drop the issue and don't bring it back up. On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.
##Vote Katina
As for layabout since he is here he can answer the questions. Then you switch around and place a vote on Katina (imo using a not-very-good reason). I asked you what your reasoning was and instead of explaining your vote, all you do is quote yourself and tell me to "really think about it." I guess it's my fault for not being specific but I want you to elaborate and explain. It's because you know she's not responding in your scum QT, you know she hasn't voted yet and you know she's not online. So with 30 minutes left until lynch you take your vote off sinani and place it on her. You go on to take your vote off Katina (Consolidation of votes?) and place it on NT (Because BH seems townie).
Not trying to sound like a narrator but your actions make good sense from a scum point-of-view.
On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM.
Note:bolded. You know what that looks like? It looks like scum telling me to look at other people and leave them alone because they don't like the spotlight & attention.
I am acknowledging other people, you're just the first one I've looked into who appears scummy.
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My suspicious is off grush for now because of D1.
I want to talk now about layabout and why I think he's suspicious.
On May 05 2012 05:43 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Katina few posts have been critical of the disruptive play at the beginning, and acted to stamp out the bad. On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Katina Implies that the "blub scumslip affair" is stupid (it was) by implying that the accusations are rather hastily made (which further implies that they are poorly thought out) On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... katina points out that BH is being a big drama queen. On May 03 2012 08:32 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:14 blubbdavid wrote:
Btw, I sense some kind of BlazingKenpachi party. Didn't work out so great in Aperture Mafia. On May 03 2012 08:11 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 08:02 Blazinghand wrote:On May 03 2012 08:00 Katina wrote:On May 03 2012 07:22 SomethingAwesome wrote:On May 03 2012 07:18 blubbdavid wrote:
Haha, we have two scumslips already.
Maybe you don't know but the role PM's for vanilla townie were sent in normal font. modkill for role PM shit? idk how to answer this without breaking rules.. you are scum... all townies will know this -mattchew You are pretty quick be calling people scum Is that your whole contribution to the thread? Please, so overwhelming! Stop contributing so much! I am being sarcastic because this sentence alone that is vaguely, VAGUELY criticizering SA is far less than he has done all game for town. Game just started honey. You are so quick to run to his defense... You're still not contributing, and being indirect. You're scum. ##unvote
##vote: Katinacome at me bro Not contributing? The game started a couple hours ago.... There hasn't been time. Indirect? Last I checked I was pretty direct with SA. Katina points out that the game is hours old and that there has not been time to contribute in response to BH's vote on her for not contributing. On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.
I assume we still have 24h+ for voting? Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too). Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet. Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D) For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry. I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?) Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done. I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable! BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy. Criticises grush for sheeping a baseless vote. Points out how destructive the "lets all vote for no real reason" is and tells the perpetrators to stop. If Katrina does anything suspicious it is the way in which she puts attention on BM. She tells us that he tend to lurk when he is mafia that he posted earlier and is now lurking. He isn't lurking at the moment. Lurking is playing passively, posting infrequently or posting with consistently low content. BM is inactive in this game since these are his only posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
I will extend the day and shorten the next night by one hour. Good luck and have fun.
Nobody died yet.
But don't worry.
what On May 03 2012 06:46 Bill Murray wrote:
extended days?!
hurray! Both of which of from the very beginning of the game
You spend a lot of time defending Katina, you also say the only way she is suspicious is "the way in which she puts attention on BM." You defend her again here:
On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence. I do not think we should lynch katina. Do other people think that this is BS? On May 05 2012 04:46 SomethingAwesome wrote:
I don't really like layabout much. His inconsistency and lacking response to why his policy lynch is now a good option compared to earlier. The generic first post as pointed out by myself and better pointed out by DoYouHas. If he want to kill us why not vote us instead of steering town towards a werd policy lynch on BM.
(I'm not defending BM. Don't care if he live or die so far)
##Vote Layabout
//Dirk
You also ask what other people think of SomethingAwesome's "BS." I think SomethingAwesome might have been onto something honestly. The first thing you said in the entire game was that you were AGAINST policy lynches and that "they are no better this game than they ever were before"
On May 03 2012 08:04 layabout wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just want to warn all of the "area 53" guys that policy lynching is no better an option in this game than it ever was before. I know that a few of you are currently feeling like we should place all lurkers and confusing posters into the fire. But the majority of those players will be town and lynching into them is likely to kill (admittedly useless) townies.
We are going to be polite in this game.
We are going to vote at appropriate times.
We are going to act in town's interest's using methods that are simple and explainable.
And we are going to destroy red.
You then completely disregard your own advice not to policy lynch (below) and vote Bill Murry, who Katina was supposedly suspicious for bringing attention to. Also, if you're not even going to follow the advice you posted not to policy lynch... what was the point in posting that in the first place other than to look like you were contributing when you really weren't?
On May 04 2012 07:35 layabout wrote:
BH you are just bitter because you blew your own leg off after you tried to rocket jump with the wrong boots on.
I think killing something awesome could be a good move. If we still have no candidates when i get up then i think we should just lynch BM.
So you think killing SomethingAwesome could be a good move, presumably because you think he's scum. But instead of building a case around SomethingAwesome, you decide to vote BM based on meta.
since we still have no real candidate
##vote Bill Murray
reasons:
anti-town when town
anti-town when scum
lurks a lot
when he is active he is disruptive
Who are you to decide if there "is no real candidate?" There were plenty of people with plenty of reads at the time. You even repeat this:
We have nobody that looks like scum.
This is the best way to use the lynch.
Then you repeat it again:
Look how few votes the candidate have
Look how weak the cases are
Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote
See how unlikely we are to hit mafia
Lynch a player that will be anti town either way.
Vote BillMurray
Last thing, there is no such thing as an anti-town town member. If someone is town, just by being alive they are helping town. Killing an "anti-town" town member is still killing a town member. Killing town players because they "aren't useful anyway" or "are anti town" is scum logic.
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ebwop: On May 05 2012 14:11 PaqMan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM.
Note:bolded. You know what that looks like? It looks like scum telling me to look at other people and leave them alone because they don't like the spotlight & attention. I am acknowledging other people, you're just the first one I've looked into who appears scummy.
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Busy day tomorrow, most likely wont be back until a few hours before night ends. Be safe ppl!
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There is no question in my mind that Palmar should be the next one on the chopping block. It is like he is trolling the town, waiting to see just how much he can get away with before we lynch him. His posts are a joke, he has been lurking in spite of being called out numerous times, and he tops it all off with a ninja vote onto a townie bandwagon. Unless something drastic changes, I want Palmar dead tomorrow.
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On May 05 2012 14:11 PaqMan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:So you haven't shown why these things are necessarily scum tells. Because I can and have explained them from a town POV. Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.
If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM. If you think I'm scum then yea keep pushing me. TBH yea I haven't really shown anything that should give you a strong town read but I never claimed confirmed town - I said what I did so that you would think things through instead of trying to force events into preconceived reads instead of pulling reads objectively out of events. 1. Did I blame you for BM getting lynched? Nope. On May 05 2012 12:14 slOosh wrote:
that BM lynch train was bull, and guess what it did turn out that way. If you thought the lynch was bull WHY DIDNT YOU TELL US NO. Why didn't you say some sort OBJECTION if you thought it was bull? If you thought the lynch was a mistake for town why did you not mention it? Why did you not say "Hey guys I don't like this idea of lynching BM"? Because you wanted town to make a mislynch.
On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
So you haven't shown why these things are necessarily scum tells. Because I can and have explained them from a town POV. You saw the deadline was in 30 minutes, you saw your scumbuddy Katina hadn't voted and that she wasn't on. You basically knew she would get modkilled so you put a vote on her. + Show Spoiler +On May 03 2012 13:46 slOosh wrote:Please stop with the spam people. If this is the rate at which D1 will plan out then we won't be getting anywhere. Consolidate your posts and don't throw out one liners so freely. I'm inclined to think that blubbdavid just didn't read, which is more indicative of VT rather than power role / scum. Blazinghand's case isn't that strong, and was probably more for discussion purposes, given the fact that he has already moved on to voting for two other players. Now, as we wait for people to start checking in, I'd like to get some actual discussion going. Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 09:35 sinani206 wrote:
hi. im not sure if blubs thingy was a scumslip. also why the fuck does everyone make a big deal about kenpachi every fucking game? Neutral stance on blub, no comment on katina etc., blowing situation out of proportion (there was only 1 post made voting kenpachi and two small responses. hardly a big deal as he puts it) Thoughts? You begin by trying to start discussion around Sinani, On May 04 2012 13:35 slOosh wrote:
Dear Paqman, please stop spamming and consolidate your posts. You hold 60% of the posts this page, and it makes it harder for us to read everything.
Still waiting for something from sinani206.
##Vote: sinani206 You pressure him with a vote, On May 04 2012 23:40 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 15:00 sinani206 wrote:On May 04 2012 13:35 slOosh wrote:
Dear Paqman, please stop spamming and consolidate your posts. You hold 60% of the posts this page, and it makes it harder for us to read everything.
Still waiting for something from sinani206.
##Vote: sinani206 Nice two posts about me. Got anything on anyone else? Also, to confirm, day ends at 21:00 GMT (+00:00), right? Why, as a townie, do you show absolutely no interest in proving your innocence in the form of contributions? And this is a really good point against Sinani that I agree with, but after this post you drop the issue and don't bring it back up. On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.
##Vote Katina
As for layabout since he is here he can answer the questions. Then you switch around and place a vote on Katina (imo using a not-very-good reason). I asked you what your reasoning was and instead of explaining your vote, all you do is quote yourself and tell me to "really think about it." I guess it's my fault for not being specific but I want you to elaborate and explain. It's because you know she's not responding in your scum QT, you know she hasn't voted yet and you know she's not online. So with 30 minutes left until lynch you take your vote off sinani and place it on her. You go on to take your vote off Katina (Consolidation of votes?) and place it on NT (Because BH seems townie). Not trying to sound like a narrator but your actions make good sense from a scum point-of-view.
On May 05 2012 12:52 slOosh wrote:
If this is somehow "not good enough" then you really need to think again. Especially so as you figure that I am somehow to blame for BM mislynch, yet you don't acknowledge the list of lurkers and ninjas who also voted BM.
Note:bolded. You know what that looks like? It looks like scum telling me to look at other people and leave them alone because they don't like the spotlight & attention. I am acknowledging other people, you're just the first one I've looked into who appears scummy.
I've been pretty busy the past couple of days. Therefore with the limited time I had I did the best I could. I dropped my sinani thing because it seemed that no one cared. No point in wasting my vote by leaving it on him. I liked BH & DYH's comments on katina, and after going through her filter also saw that she was acting suspicious so I threw a vote her way.
On May 05 2012 05:33 slOosh wrote:
Bah isn't deadline in 30 minutes??? I'm down for a katina vote, as outlined by DYH and BH before me.
Her filter shows that she has likes and dislikes of what's going on, but she doesn't take that into figuring out alignments.
##Vote Katina I didn't flesh out my read here with a case by case detailing I saw it this way because I was using a friend's broken laptop and quoting was immensely difficult. I can do it now if you want if you think that it is some bs reasoning to vote her.
As for BM, I didn't like it because people were just voting him without reason, not because I thought he was town. To me he was lurker, so we were essentially voting off a lurker, but what I didn't like was that people literally threw votes on him without mentioning in the thread (well this is hindsight, I don't think I noticed till DYH or someone pointed it out). There is no accountability that way and it gives scum an easy way out of mislynches. Like, can you tell me which ones voted for BM with good intentions and which ones voted for malicious reasons? I can barely see the progression of the bandwagon in the thread as it is (could people please bold their vote?)
Add onto that the bad computer and there really isn't any incentive for me to try to hard swing town with the limited time I had. I might be lazy but I'm not scum. In any case I'll just be working on my reads and if I survive I'll be doing what I've been doing D2.
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Remember we are back to regular schedule in the OP, so night 1 ends at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Please don't forget to send in your night actions before then!
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Lets hope our special blues do some work during the night, could practically win us the game if lucky
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On May 05 2012 13:06 papapanda wrote:Yeah, mafia is going to hit SlOosh real hard, as he is 2/2, calling out both sinani and katina. I believe the lynching of BM was orchestrated by the red. The plan for red might have been to target veterans who are slightly inactive. As we can see, Katina passively pushed for lynching of BM. Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on. Keeping this is mind, I would like to bring up marvellosity. 1. His first few post was to bring Palmer into attention. No, he didn't vote for him, but just bringing him up and possibly started a bandwagon is good enough. 2. He gives his read on NT, saying he "looks the scummiest" but then votes for BM(yes, I voted BM too, I will explain my change of heart if it isn't clear enough-_-), claiming same reason as layabout. His willingness to switch sides so fast is a little scummy. 3. He defends Katina by basically saying she has odd posting style. By association, this also is a little suspicious and him adding on saying that DoYouHas nailed it actually made it sound even worst for me. I would like to conclude by saying that this was pieced together AFTER I assumed he was red. I would like to ask others to help me analyse marvellosity from the point of view of blue. Basically: FoS on marvellosityJust to humour you 1) seems like a good thing to me 2) switch sides? I voted for one person and also explained. ... ? 3) by association? ok. Is that it?
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EBWOP: ugh, formatting, everything below FoS is obviously me
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On May 05 2012 15:12 DoYouHas wrote:
There is no question in my mind that Palmar should be the next one on the chopping block. It is like he is trolling the town, waiting to see just how much he can get away with before we lynch him. His posts are a joke, he has been lurking in spite of being called out numerous times, and he tops it all off with a ninja vote onto a townie bandwagon. Unless something drastic changes, I want Palmar dead tomorrow.
I'm down with this, but I also want to look at layabout as he seems to have a few people poking him.
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Everyone should be lynching layabout tomorrow if your thinking differently stop thinking as that is how BM died
-D
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I agree with my other head
:3
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Yo jdub, mind telling me your thoughts now?
On May 05 2012 06:00 johnnywup wrote:
not really, we're lynching for being anti-town regardless of allignment, anyone who voted to lynch him shouldn't get any credibility.
Still feel that way about credibility? Because that shoots yours out the window as well.
:3
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BlackRaven do you want to lynch layabout because of what I said or do you have something else to add?
Also I am still suspicious of papapanda but do not consider him as high a priority as to focus on him right now.
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I have similar feels like Sinensis, layabout should really be on the top of the lynch list.
And I am not really convinced by NT's posting, doing research right now-
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On May 06 2012 00:01 Sinensis wrote:
BlackRaven do you want to lynch layabout because of what I said or do you have something else to add?
I don't even think I've even been reading your posts or if I have they have been so insignificant I have forgotten about them.
-D
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You know that part of the brain that does really retarded things? Look up
:3
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On May 06 2012 00:11 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 00:01 Sinensis wrote:
BlackRaven do you want to lynch layabout because of what I said or do you have something else to add? I don't even think I've even been reading your posts or if I have they have been so insignificant I have forgotten about them. -D
I swear to god ill stop doing this and if not cat face will do all my posts 
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