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Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 05 2012 21:42 GMT
#661
ooh interesting
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 21:43 GMT
#662
ebwop: I'm guessing the vigi shot Palmar.
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 21:45 GMT
#663
This is sad to see my FoS's dead.
t(ツ)t
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 05 2012 21:46 GMT
#664
Fuck, I thought the deadline was later. Haven't really had time to conjest my reads.

Also 3rd KP could be mafia vig. At least we haven't lost any power roles yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 05 2012 21:48 GMT
#665
Yeah, I shot Palmar. He looked like scum to me. I gave him the benefit of the doubt D1 but he didn't contribute and was silent, as scum Palmar tends to be.

Here's my crumb:

On May 06 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Man this situation just makes me want to eat my own heart


Type "eat heart of" into google search (but don't hit enter) and it'll suggest "eat heart of palm"

Palm -> Palmar, my target.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 05 2012 21:49 GMT
#666
On May 06 2012 06:46 Mementoss wrote:
Also 3rd KP could be mafia vig. At least we haven't lost any power roles yet.


There are no mafia Vigis-- and a pyro wouldn't be able to kill someone until N2.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 05 2012 21:53 GMT
#667
:3
c|:3
c|:3>
c|>:3>
c|>:-3>

gg :D
:3
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 05 2012 21:53 GMT
#668
On May 06 2012 06:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 06:46 Mementoss wrote:
Also 3rd KP could be mafia vig. At least we haven't lost any power roles yet.


There are no mafia Vigis-- and a pyro wouldn't be able to kill someone until N2.


Ah its day vig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 05 2012 22:11 GMT
#669
On May 06 2012 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah, I shot Palmar. He looked like scum to me. I gave him the benefit of the doubt D1 but he didn't contribute and was silent, as scum Palmar tends to be.

Here's my crumb:

Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 03:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Man this situation just makes me want to eat my own heart


Type "eat heart of" into google search (but don't hit enter) and it'll suggest "eat heart of palm"

Palm -> Palmar, my target.

rofl are you kidding me
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 05 2012 22:16 GMT
#670
I know right! I'm amazing
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 05 2012 22:18 GMT
#671
Alright on to the people I think are scum at the moment.

Nova Terra:
For the reasons stated before, his recent play gives me no reason to change my mind.

Layabout :
I know some others have brought up these points but..
For this contradiction:

On May 03 2012 08:04 layabout wrote:
I just want to warn all of the "area 53" guys that policy lynching is no better an option in this game than it ever was before. I know that a few of you are currently feeling like we should place all lurkers and confusing posters into the fire. But the majority of those players will be town and lynching into them is likely to kill (admittedly useless) townies.
.

On May 05 2012 02:18 layabout wrote:

since we still have no real candidate
##vote Bill Murray
reasons:
anti-town when town
anti-town when scum
lurks a lot
when he is active he is disruptive

This is a policy lynch.


Not only this, but he started the BM wagon single handidly and people followed.

His Hard defense on Katina

On May 05 2012 05:10 layabout wrote:
Katina has made posts indicative of intelligence.

I do not think we should lynch katina.


Also he wanted to kill Palmar tommorrow, despite palmar just lurking, why not any other lurker? He wouldn't have known BH would shoot Palmar so it wouldn't make him look bad.

On May 06 2012 00:55 layabout wrote:
we should kill Palmar tomorrow


Marvellosity

On May 05 2012 05:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:49 layabout wrote:
Look how few votes the candidate have

Look how weak the cases are

Look how easily the 5 player scumteam could swing the vote

See how unlikely we are to hit mafia

Lynch a player that will be anti town either way.
Vote BillMurray


Sold, I don't have a solid scumread on anyone and BM is just useless and anti-town no matter his alignment.


Having no solid scum reads, despite saying Katina and Nova looked scummy to him. It seems like he purposely put these next two statements in the vagest terms possible, so that when he hopped on a bandwagon he could say, well I didn't really think they were that scummy. Also, the games where he has been town he has been very pro town in scum hunting and posting, in this one however, he has been a "commentator" on everything and an initiator of no scum hunting.

On May 05 2012 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 02:02 Mementoss wrote:
On May 05 2012 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 05 2012 01:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:
On May 05 2012 00:20 froggynoddy wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:45 SomethingAwesome wrote:

Don't talk about Beneather. No reason to. When/If he post he will be a target for now leave him be.



why? Inactives and lurkers are killing this day 1, its allowign scum to hide amongst them. I'd almost be up for changing my vote onto him if it gets him to contribute.

I aso agree with Mementoss, Grush's case is weak but its the only case we have.


He havent posted yet. He isn't lurking he is just not here. If he pops up I'll bring my entire wrath down on him but until he does he is a modkill to me so I see no reason to waste time arguing over him.

So you think we should kill Grush because its the only case? You don't really care who we lynch?


Who would you favour lynching at the moment, sir?


I would like to hear the same from you actually Marveoulosity


I'm not sure you deserve an answer if you're not going to spell my name right.

At the moment Nova looks the scummiest for reasons already expanded upon by others. The fact that so little of anything has occurred today makes Nova's stance that he doesn't want to air his tentative reads all the worse.


On May 05 2012 05:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:00 DoYouHas wrote:
Grush's initial missteps and then claiming scum twice (even if it is sarcastic) makes him a decent lynch.

You all seem to be avoiding having an opinion on the main part of my post.


Your analysis on Katina's 'lie' seems to be sound enough, the problem I have with it is that Katina generally has quite an odd posting style, so I'm not sure how much I should make of it, especially as the post in question was aimed at renowned finger-pointer BlazingHand.


I'll bold all the wishy washy vague terms for you. So basically, its a soft defense on Katina while still maintaing the post to look like he thought Katina was scum. The rest of his filter is nothing useful, just one liners. The fact he was so reluctant early in the day to place a vote on anyone he found remotely scummy even to pressure them seems odd, then how quickly he is sold on the fact a BM bandwagon comes along.

I would be happy with lynching any of these three today. Will keep looking into more as well.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 05 2012 22:25 GMT
#672
Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.

But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?

P.S. Question for you and all of you

1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?

Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
May 05 2012 22:26 GMT
#673
Not trying brag, but I voted BM first.

That said, I have a null read on layabout. I still haven't looked into his posts and it's what I plan to do tonight. I have also yet to look through NT.
However, after just finishing a game with Marvel, I agree with your case on him. I haven't seen him do any solid scumhunting and most of his posts don't have value.
t(ツ)t
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 05 2012 22:33 GMT
#674
On May 06 2012 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.

But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?

P.S. Question for you and all of you

1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?

Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case


Let me ask you a question back.

1) Do you think Marvellosity is good pro town player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) Why did Marvellosity avoid pressuring players or committing to anything all of day 1?

Now go up and replace Marvellosity with Nova_Terra or Layabout. Added on to this, there is scummy contradictions within these cases that help add up to make me think any of the three of you could be scum. Added to the fact that Katina flipped scum, and the interactions you and Layabout had with him.

Also you are giving scum players too much credit. Did you think a scum player would last minute vote switch causing a tie and lynching the opposite person, when both players are townie?

These things happen to scum by mistake, or are just plain moves to fuck with you.

This being said, who is your biggest scum read and why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 05 2012 22:34 GMT
#675
EBWOP: This is the second time, I've had to ask/force somewhat of a scum read out of you Marvellosity. You'd think you'd want to contribute to the discussion, and actually provide them without being provoked?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 05 2012 22:35 GMT
#676
On May 06 2012 07:34 Mementoss wrote:
EBWOP: This is the second time, I've had to ask/force somewhat of a scum read out of you Marvellosity. You'd think you'd want to contribute to the discussion, and actually provide them without being provoked?


You'd be surprised how much effort it takes to get a town-aligned Marvellosity to contribute.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 05 2012 22:41 GMT
#677
On May 06 2012 07:33 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.

But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?

P.S. Question for you and all of you

1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?

Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case


Let me ask you a question back.

1) Do you think Marvellosity is good pro town player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) Why did Marvellosity avoid pressuring players or committing to anything all of day 1?

Now go up and replace Marvellosity with Nova_Terra or Layabout. Added on to this, there is scummy contradictions within these cases that help add up to make me think any of the three of you could be scum. Added to the fact that Katina flipped scum, and the interactions you and Layabout had with him.

Also you are giving scum players too much credit. Did you think a scum player would last minute vote switch causing a tie and lynching the opposite person, when both players are townie?

These things happen to scum by mistake, or are just plain moves to fuck with you.

This being said, who is your biggest scum read and why?



There are moves to fuck with you (a la Risen) and then there is saying one thing and doing the other (as with layabout this case). Imo these two scenarios are not the same.

Re f5-ed the thread to see BH's comment - fuck you, sweetheart.

To your final question - I don't know. This is why I've prodded l10f not so long ago. Sinensis and Eiii are not far behind on who I'd like to hear a lot more from (sinensis for general quietness, Eiii because for his own reasons doesn't like talking at night, so I want him to talk more during the day).

while I'm here, Nova hasn't provided any further commentary on who he finds scummy. Personally I get where he's coming from in not wanting to push something when he hasn't got anything solid, but having stated he had reads it'd be pretty nice to hear them.

Summary: nope, no bigly strong scumread at the moment. wanna hear more from people i've not heard much from, because at the moment i only have anti-scum reads (layabout, grush)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
May 05 2012 23:22 GMT
#678
ghost_403 hasn't posted since day 1. interesting. (thought that resulted in modkill but guess not?

I think laya is pretty scummy for defending Katina then "pushing" palm, without a reason. In fact, making a "huge" post dedicated to defending someone you just have a town read on isn't helpful. That hard defense incriminates laya a lot. Since kat rolled scum, I think laya is very likely scum as well. And then there's the "I don't think we should policy lynch" then "I'm policy lynching BM", which doesn't really help either.
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 05 2012 23:32 GMT
#679
On May 06 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 07:33 Mementoss wrote:
On May 06 2012 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.

But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?

P.S. Question for you and all of you

1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?

Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case


Let me ask you a question back.

1) Do you think Marvellosity is good pro town player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) Why did Marvellosity avoid pressuring players or committing to anything all of day 1?

Now go up and replace Marvellosity with Nova_Terra or Layabout. Added on to this, there is scummy contradictions within these cases that help add up to make me think any of the three of you could be scum. Added to the fact that Katina flipped scum, and the interactions you and Layabout had with him.

Also you are giving scum players too much credit. Did you think a scum player would last minute vote switch causing a tie and lynching the opposite person, when both players are townie?

These things happen to scum by mistake, or are just plain moves to fuck with you.

This being said, who is your biggest scum read and why?



There are moves to fuck with you (a la Risen) and then there is saying one thing and doing the other (as with layabout this case). Imo these two scenarios are not the same.

Re f5-ed the thread to see BH's comment - fuck you, sweetheart.

To your final question - I don't know. This is why I've prodded l10f not so long ago. Sinensis and Eiii are not far behind on who I'd like to hear a lot more from (sinensis for general quietness, Eiii because for his own reasons doesn't like talking at night, so I want him to talk more during the day).

while I'm here, Nova hasn't provided any further commentary on who he finds scummy. Personally I get where he's coming from in not wanting to push something when he hasn't got anything solid, but having stated he had reads it'd be pretty nice to hear them.

Summary: nope, no bigly strong scumread at the moment. wanna hear more from people i've not heard much from, because at the moment i only have anti-scum reads (layabout, grush)

Did you miss my thing on mementoss?
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 05 2012 23:33 GMT
#680
On May 06 2012 08:32 Nova_Terra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
On May 06 2012 07:33 Mementoss wrote:
On May 06 2012 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
Mementoss: cba to do a particularly long defence, but a) you've seen what I'm like before I get going in a game b) I didn't say Katina looked like scum, I said DYH's reasoning was sound but gave the reasons for my misgivings, c) I stated that Nova's scumminess lay in the fact he hadn't pushed his 'tentative' scumreads, + already explained how this did not put him into the scum category for me.

But carry on dear... you never really got over BH's tunnelling of me last game, did you?

P.S. Question for you and all of you

1) do you think layabout is a fairly intelligent reasoned player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) do you think layabout scum would make the mistake of not advocating policy lynch and then making one on BM?

Personally my answer is no, which is why I am not comfortable on his case


Let me ask you a question back.

1) Do you think Marvellosity is good pro town player?
if yes, proceed to 2
2) Why did Marvellosity avoid pressuring players or committing to anything all of day 1?

Now go up and replace Marvellosity with Nova_Terra or Layabout. Added on to this, there is scummy contradictions within these cases that help add up to make me think any of the three of you could be scum. Added to the fact that Katina flipped scum, and the interactions you and Layabout had with him.

Also you are giving scum players too much credit. Did you think a scum player would last minute vote switch causing a tie and lynching the opposite person, when both players are townie?

These things happen to scum by mistake, or are just plain moves to fuck with you.

This being said, who is your biggest scum read and why?



There are moves to fuck with you (a la Risen) and then there is saying one thing and doing the other (as with layabout this case). Imo these two scenarios are not the same.

Re f5-ed the thread to see BH's comment - fuck you, sweetheart.

To your final question - I don't know. This is why I've prodded l10f not so long ago. Sinensis and Eiii are not far behind on who I'd like to hear a lot more from (sinensis for general quietness, Eiii because for his own reasons doesn't like talking at night, so I want him to talk more during the day).

while I'm here, Nova hasn't provided any further commentary on who he finds scummy. Personally I get where he's coming from in not wanting to push something when he hasn't got anything solid, but having stated he had reads it'd be pretty nice to hear them.

Summary: nope, no bigly strong scumread at the moment. wanna hear more from people i've not heard much from, because at the moment i only have anti-scum reads (layabout, grush)

Did you miss my thing on mementoss?


Eh, apparently so. Possibly I am a tool. will check your filter :x
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