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EchelonTee
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Sn0_Man
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How many times have I mislynched you Umasi? Only one? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On November 06 2013 04:05 EchelonTee wrote: no, rayn has not posted anything since I came back to thread huh ur right oops im wrong | ||
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thrawn2112
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
On November 05 2013 13:28 Umasi wrote: it's an association read :| Just from the opening post, again. Here, I'll defer to everyone I guess. ##unvote: vanesco thoughts on him still haven't changed, but it's pretty clear he won't be lynched today, and I might just be dead wrong. Still think sylencias town though. you think I'm getting lynched? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
therefore, you must think it is realistic that I will be lynched? what reasons do you have for me being scum? point out something besides rayn's case. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On November 06 2013 04:20 EchelonTee wrote: because you unvoted vanesco because it was clear he wont be lynched. therefore, you must think it is realistic that I will be lynched? what reasons do you have for me being scum? point out something besides rayn's case. On November 05 2013 17:52 EchelonTee wrote: You said you would focus on them, but I don't see any focus on you. I did not do intensive meta research. I skimmed your posts, but did not skim rayn's posts. If I missed some huge, obvious interaction that shows that you must be town and rayn believes so, I could back off for now. There might've been better examples but I'm not going to spend hours poring over your meta. I picked the first example I saw that looked like a real case. I don't see you making any real cases and your excuse is that you're bored. I don't know the point of trying harder if it's clear that you don't really care and are too bored to play. If you think I am scum, please state so instead of lightly insinuating it. I'd like to know who you want to lynch, if you're not too bored to say something of use. I don't understand why you'd hold him to the fact that he said he'd focus lurkers, and when he comes back, he doesn't focus them. I don't think that's scummy at all, he's just responding to whatever he sees fit at the time, and it's not like he was flippantly making a promise as scum to get towncred, I think he'd remember if he was. Also, your dismissal of a portion of his defense was literally 'I don't want to read hours of your meta.' I can totally understand not wanting to do it, but your refusal of his defense for no reason other than 'I'm too lazy to actually check' is scummy. Also, you have a higher fucking chance of being lynched than vanesco, considering yourself off the table is just stupid. + Show Spoiler + ( ' ' ) apostrophes are not actually quotes, just paraphrasals. | ||
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Umasi
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considering yourself off the table for a lynch is REALLY stupid, you have the most votes. I touch on the other two leading candidates, hzflank and onegu, with my thoughts on them, so it follows that you have a good chance of being lynched, so it's not worthless to focus on you. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
There was one time earlier in the game where he made me think "wtf?" while we were talking about sn0: On November 05 2013 08:49 hzflank wrote: When I read him earlier, his tone was very fun. His attitude was casual, dare I say he seemed to be enjoying the game. At times you might think he has a idgaf attitude, but then he makes a few posts and you reseal that he is in fact invested in the current game. On November 05 2013 09:13 hzflank wrote: For the time being, I ignore how he posts and focus on what he posts. He hides behind how he posts, and when he posts more content he will be easier to read. The context of this is that hzflank was calling sn0 scum, I disagreed. I asked hz to characterize sn0's play, and he characterized it EXACTLY how I would have done, basically agreeing with me that sn0's general attidue and posting style strongly suggests that he's town. Yet when I asked hzflank how he reconciles this with his sn0 scum read he responded by basically saying he's ignoring all the townie things about sn0, that sn0 is just hiding behind what appears to be extremely stereotypical casual "idgaf" townie behavior. I'd expected him to at least reconsider his postion but the fact that he didn't do so is odd. Other than that I don't have much, except I don't like how on pg2 of his filter he wrote up a decently sized post calling sylencia "probably scum" but it doesn't look like he's interested in thinking about a syl lynch or that he cares to convince anyone of syl's scumminess. And he doesn't talk about syl anymore after that which I think is weird considering how he calls syl "probably scum." thoughts? also who is gonna be around for the lynch? Umasi.... it's time to reconsider. Many of the people who are going to be around to make a lynch happen aren't people who are considering voting for ET. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
I don't consider myself unlynchable, but you are not talking logically. I have 3 votes. 1 more than people with 2 votes. Saying I have "the most votes" is like a marketing tactic. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On November 06 2013 04:44 thrawn2112 wrote: I've been reading hzflank and it's hard to come to a conclusion because he's rarely done anything to draw attention to himself. Yeah, I know that's supposed to be a scumread but there are only a few things in his filter I have issue with so I'm still hesitant on this one. There was one time earlier in the game where he made me think "wtf?" while we were talking about sn0: The context of this is that hzflank was calling sn0 scum, I disagreed. I asked hz to characterize sn0's play, and he characterized it EXACTLY how I would have done, basically agreeing with me that sn0's general attidue and posting style strongly suggests that he's town. Yet when I asked hzflank how he reconciles this with his sn0 scum read he responded by basically saying he's ignoring all the townie things about sn0, that sn0 is just hiding behind what appears to be extremely stereotypical casual "idgaf" townie behavior. I'd expected him to at least reconsider his postion but the fact that he didn't do so is odd. Other than that I don't have much, except I don't like how on pg2 of his filter he wrote up a decently sized post calling sylencia "probably scum" but it doesn't look like he's interested in thinking about a syl lynch or that he cares to convince anyone of syl's scumminess. And he doesn't talk about syl anymore after that which I think is weird considering how he calls syl "probably scum." thoughts? also who is gonna be around for the lynch? Umasi.... it's time to reconsider. Many of the people who are going to be around to make a lynch happen aren't people who are considering voting for ET. I'll be around for the lynch, so if by that time ET still hasn't gained traction, I'll vote for hzflank. Unless he isn't getting voted either. It's kinda weird that he voted me and has sat on it for a while now, although I felt like he had an okay progression of suspicion on me to justify it. I gotta go to class, be back around 20 minutes before lynch. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On November 06 2013 04:49 EchelonTee wrote: So you didn't read the last page or so, or are simply ignoring parts of it. I acknoledged the problems with my meta analysis and unvoted. Your actions are quite telling though. I don't consider myself unlynchable, but you are not talking logically. I have 3 votes. 1 more than people with 2 votes. Saying I have "the most votes" is like a marketing tactic. Why didn't you recognize the problems with it RIGHT THEN now I'm actually afk. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
My initial impression was that hzflank was slight town because he was doing a lot of planning and public thinking, things that I normally associate with towniness, but that is not super indicative of much. I thought his case on Sn0 was very poor in terms of logic. On November 05 2013 08:15 hzflank wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 05 2013 01:17 Sn0_Man wrote: Can WoS post this actively as scum? Not a fan of his take on the game so far. I assume that by 'his take on the game' you mean his reads? Well you know that disagreeing with someone's reads does not make them scum. You also fail to say which reads or why you disagree with them. Additionally, WoS's reads changed a bit before he read Gumshoe's post, but not between that and you making your post. 1.) So, you think WoS might be scum, but your reason that you state for that is not based on the exchange between WoS and Gumshoe. But if you think that WoS is scum then I would think that you would at least reference their exchange for one reason or another. On November 05 2013 01:44 Sn0_Man wrote: "Hey guys i'm super excited I rolled scum which I never do. OHBOYOHBOYOHBOY" -WoS Iunno. Doesn't feel like the WoS I've played with. I'll let it develop. In other news, much desire to lynch Onegu. A) he's always scum B) I never catch/suspect him. Here you give an additional reason for thinking that WoS is scum, which is purely a meta reason. It's not really a meta reason that can be questioned either, as you are basing it on a feeling. 2.) It's one thing to call someone scum without a good reason, or to call someone scum but not follow up in it. But to do both at the same time? Is there a point to doing it that I am missing? Then when you move on, you happen to move onto Onegu who is the exact person that WoS thinks is scum. If you feel uncomfortable with WoS, then you should also feel uncomfortable with wanting to lynch the same person that he wants to lynch. On the other hand, your reasons for desiring to lynch Onegu are a joke. If you were completely joking (about wanting to lynch Onegu, not the reasons) then my previous paragraph becomes void. It also means everything you posted was pointless (attack WoS, get response so use joke to detatch). Moving on to Sno's exchange with OO: On November 05 2013 05:25 Sn0_Man wrote: You are like, incredibly desperate to justify yourself. If you weren't so uptight I'd be leaving it alone. Actually I was leaving it alone ur the one pushing it lol. 3.) Snoman very casually removes himself from the discussion. If Snoman wanted information on OO then this was his time to do so, but it just seems like Snoman actually wants to run away. I don't care how little confidence you have in your D1 reads, if you twice have the chance to question your scum reads directly and twice decide to distance yourself from them instead then you do not really think that they are scum. ##vote: Sno_man 1.) hzflank calls Sn0 bad for not mentioning an exchange btwn WoS and gum. This a poor point because Sn0 simply states that he is "not a fan of [WoS's] take on the game"; that could include that exchange btwn WoS and gum. 2.) hzflank claims that Sn0 man is both calling someone scum without a good reason and not following up on it. This is a poor point because says "Doesn't feel like the WoS I've played with. I'll let it develop", which does not sound like him calling WoS scum. It clearly is stating that Sn0 wants more information before deciding. hzflank misrepresents Sn0 here. Sn0's comment on Onegu is null, yet hzflank implies that because it is a joke everything else is Sn0 has done is pointless. I feel that that is a misrepresentation once again; while I don't think Sn0 has been substantive in his posts, just because he jokes around about Onegu doesn't mean everything he's said is bull shit. 3.) I agree that Sn0's post here is weird, but of the three points hzflank makes, this is the only that has merit in my opinion. While I still think Sn0 is scummy (sidelined for the moment), it's not uncommon for scum to make cases on scum (myself on Onegu in Hogwarts). The case doesn't feel right/genuine. While his read on Umasi has decent logic, the vote on Umasi is essentially dead at this point. He has been noticbly absent for quite some time now; he is from the UK though. I think it's better than a no-lynch, and I think there's a chance a decent chance he's scum. ##Vote: hzflank | ||
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EchelonTee
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On November 06 2013 04:52 Umasi wrote: Why didn't you recognize the problems with it RIGHT THEN now I'm actually afk. I made a mistake. I misinterpreted thrawn's filter. I spent a small amount of time reading his meta and made a mistake. Can you say you've even read my meta? | ||
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EchelonTee
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thrawn2112
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Sn0_Man
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thrawn2112
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On November 06 2013 04:58 Sn0_Man wrote: here why? lol idk apparently we are playing mafia? and supposedly there is an instant majority lynch deadline coming up soon? both of these assumptions lead me to believe that now is a time for urgency | ||
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Sn0_Man
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
its just majority. theres nobody here to bother u and ET are prolly both town and umasi fucked off (plus I've mislynched that guy before he's never useful so its hard for me to call him scum based on being crap). I wanted to sheep u but ur like "well lets vote this guy but i'm like 100% unsure on him" cant u find me scum?  | ||
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