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On April 23 2012 04:04 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 03:32 Mementoss wrote:
The more I think of it, the more I agree and like Gonzaws points on why lynching Risen is better than VE or BM.
VE very well could be JK, his claim doesn't make sense either side. If we don't lynch him and his claim is true, scum will most likely take care of him either tonight or the next night. Maybe by then he can somehow prove his claim. I think its best to wait it out. Worse case by lynching him we take out our own blue. Let mafia waste KP on that.
BM should be vigged if we have a vig, claim the shot before you shoot. If he doesn't die, We know that, either the shooter or BM is GF. Hes lurking and acting scummy, but hard to tell cause he has like 3 posts. Lynching him doesn't tell us anything if hes town, shooting him is the better option.
Also I like gonzaws case on Risen. His posts lack meaning and consistency. He has a hard time to commiting to anything and his emotions are all over the place. Im happy with a Risen lynch over the other two. Risen looks scummy, and the other two cases will hopefully work themselves out with night actions/ VE somehow confirms his claim then gets killed by mafia KP.
##Unvote: VisceraEyes
##Vote: Risen Show nested quote +If we don't lynch him and his claim is true, scum will most likely take care of him either tonight or the next night. If VE was right about anything it's that he is not a good shot for mafia. Saying let's not lynch this guy that people are willing to lynch because if he is town the mafia will kill him for us is crazy. If VE is town they his a a walking mislynch tying his own noose. Since mafia's greatest threat is the lynch, townies that might get mislynched are townies that the mafia benefit from keep alive. Please come up with a scenario in which this could happen. I can't think of one. no we don't (cough jailkeeper or a liar cough ) Show nested quote + Lynching him doesn't tell us anything if hes town, shooting him is the better option. wtf? who is lynching him for information? point them out so that we can all say that you never lynch for information because that is dumb, you lynch to hit scum. I don't get this "I want us to vig BM not lynch him" the lynch is reliable but a vig shot in a game that might not have vigi's could have multiple Jailkeepers and has 2 bulletproof mafia is not garanteed to get us a flip.
People should read and understand this post. I don't understand why people are moving off VE on the basis off potential night-actions that may or may not happen (and which mafia could work out and discuss to their favour).
VE so far this game made a ridiculous objection to gonzaw's plan, before fabricating some weird case against gonzaw on the basis of a scum-slip that wasn't even a scum-slip.
Then he goes and claims JK on the basis that he needed to stop a plan that wasn't actually happening. Timing-wise it was just ridiculous. I can't understand the motivations for it, and if that was the reason it was a terrible one. From LI I've learnt that I can't find the rational reason, probably there's an underlying scum one.
Added to the fact that I've lost count of who VE is happy to lynch and point fingers at.
Why are we moving off VE when he's a walking liability to us if he lives?
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My case on johnny is largely independent of VE's alignment. I'm voting for him, because his behavior is hesitant, except when he's sheeping someone else, and he's suddenly bold and certain. That inconsistency is what really bothers me about him.
The fact that Risen hasn't posted recently is concerning, but I found his earlier anger in character, and I want to give him a chance to respond and share his new reads before I vote for him.
I don't see a need or good reason to lynch VE, a claimed Jailkeeper, today, especially when there are players like johnny running around.
BH, I don't have as firm a scumread on marv as I did earlier, and I think you're tunneling him a bit too hard. As you said yourself, his more recent posts have been reasonably solid, but you disregard that as an "exception to the rule." I'm more tempted to think that, so long as his posting quality doesn't deteriorate, he's town with a weak Day 1 start. You're also concerned with his weak case, and I agree that he has a lot to make up for with his upcoming play, but I'm not convinced now that he's scum.
Would you care to take a step back and look for other possible scum candidates, or are you going to insist that you're right?
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On April 23 2012 04:19 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 04:05 BlazingJitsu wrote:On April 23 2012 04:03 Mattchew wrote:
Hey blazing, have you taken a second to think about how you have been looking at marv through red lenses, therefore skewing your viewpoint and coming to unfair conclusions? Yes. I am entirely objective. If you have an objection to one of the statements in my case, make it. Pussyfooting around the issue isn't a legitimate objection, it is called "soft defending" and is unhelpful to both myself and Marv.
-Blazinghand I know what soft defending is. I have never had a scum read on marv and I don't think his posts have been useless. This is why I think you are seeing his posts through clouded lenses. I think he has done a pretty decent job of showing his thought process and seems relatively open to posting (much more so of recent than in the beginning). I don't see him as having something to hide and I see a lot better candidates for todays lynch. I see you trying too hard and tunneling someone and seeing everything they do as scummy regardless of what it is. This makes you a bad townie imo
I think you're not on the Marv wagon, making you a profoundly unhelpful townie imo. I also think that a hard defense rather than soft defense would have been more appropriation for your initial protection of Marv.
-Blazinghand
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On April 23 2012 04:21 MidnightGladius wrote:
Would you care to take a step back and look for other possible scum candidates, or are you going to insist that you're right?
I am right. Also, Paqman is pretty clearly Marv's scumbuddy. When Marv flips GF it'll mean Paq is also scum.
-Blazinghand
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On April 23 2012 04:20 marvellosity wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 23 2012 04:04 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 03:32 Mementoss wrote:
The more I think of it, the more I agree and like Gonzaws points on why lynching Risen is better than VE or BM.
VE very well could be JK, his claim doesn't make sense either side. If we don't lynch him and his claim is true, scum will most likely take care of him either tonight or the next night. Maybe by then he can somehow prove his claim. I think its best to wait it out. Worse case by lynching him we take out our own blue. Let mafia waste KP on that.
BM should be vigged if we have a vig, claim the shot before you shoot. If he doesn't die, We know that, either the shooter or BM is GF. Hes lurking and acting scummy, but hard to tell cause he has like 3 posts. Lynching him doesn't tell us anything if hes town, shooting him is the better option.
Also I like gonzaws case on Risen. His posts lack meaning and consistency. He has a hard time to commiting to anything and his emotions are all over the place. Im happy with a Risen lynch over the other two. Risen looks scummy, and the other two cases will hopefully work themselves out with night actions/ VE somehow confirms his claim then gets killed by mafia KP.
##Unvote: VisceraEyes
##Vote: Risen Show nested quote +If we don't lynch him and his claim is true, scum will most likely take care of him either tonight or the next night. If VE was right about anything it's that he is not a good shot for mafia. Saying let's not lynch this guy that people are willing to lynch because if he is town the mafia will kill him for us is crazy. If VE is town they his a a walking mislynch tying his own noose. Since mafia's greatest threat is the lynch, townies that might get mislynched are townies that the mafia benefit from keep alive. Please come up with a scenario in which this could happen. I can't think of one. no we don't (cough jailkeeper or a liar cough ) Show nested quote + Lynching him doesn't tell us anything if hes town, shooting him is the better option. wtf? who is lynching him for information? point them out so that we can all say that you never lynch for information because that is dumb, you lynch to hit scum. I don't get this "I want us to vig BM not lynch him" the lynch is reliable but a vig shot in a game that might not have vigi's could have multiple Jailkeepers and has 2 bulletproof mafia is not garanteed to get us a flip. People should read and understand this post. I don't understand why people are moving off VE on the basis off potential night-actions that may or may not happen (and which mafia could work out and discuss to their favour). VE so far this game made a ridiculous objection to gonzaw's plan, before fabricating some weird case against gonzaw on the basis of a scum-slip that wasn't even a scum-slip. Then he goes and claims JK on the basis that he needed to stop a plan that wasn't actually happening. Timing-wise it was just ridiculous. I can't understand the motivations for it, and if that was the reason it was a terrible one. From LI I've learnt that I can't find the rational reason, probably there's an underlying scum one. Added to the fact that I've lost count of who VE is happy to lynch and point fingers at. Why are we moving off VE when he's a walking liability to us if he lives?
By far Marv's best and most useful post, almost certainly made in response to my renewed vigour in my case against him. As you can see, he's only willing to post just above whatever bar I set for him in order to appear townie when he is in fact scum.
-Blazinghand.
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Hey folks. I'm not actually voting layabout. Just woke up, was out drinking last night. I'm going to be going through everyone's filters and I'll make a giant post containing my analysis. I'll spoiler it so it isn't atrocious. Let me catch up on the thread, though. Why are there two votes on me? I assumed when layabout wasn't able to start the choo choo that train died.
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On April 23 2012 04:27 Risen wrote:
Hey folks. I'm not actually voting layabout. Just woke up, was out drinking last night. I'm going to be going through everyone's filters and I'll make a giant post containing my analysis. I'll spoiler it so it isn't atrocious. Let me catch up on the thread, though. Why are there two votes on me? I assumed when layabout wasn't able to start the choo choo that train died.
Gonzaw and Mememntoss just aren't very smart, and Paqman is scum trying to hide in an alternative wagon for the day end.
-Blazinghand
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On April 23 2012 04:17 BlazingJitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 04:16 PaqMan wrote:On April 23 2012 01:45 PaqMan wrote:
Also, this is pure speculation, but what if BM is a GF? We're dismissing him and assuming our vigi (if we even have one) will shoot him.
Gonzaw's case on Risen is bueno. Seeing as I'm the only one who supports a Mattchew lynch, Gonzaw's case is really tempting, more so than the other ones I've read.
I'm gonna follow up on this and switch my vote for Risen. This is interesting, given that you are Marv's scumbuddy.
-Blazinghand
Oh jebus, you caught me. How about you try throwing down some proof instead of spouting out senseless crap.
On April 23 2012 04:29 BlazingJitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 04:27 Risen wrote:
Hey folks. I'm not actually voting layabout. Just woke up, was out drinking last night. I'm going to be going through everyone's filters and I'll make a giant post containing my analysis. I'll spoiler it so it isn't atrocious. Let me catch up on the thread, though. Why are there two votes on me? I assumed when layabout wasn't able to start the choo choo that train died. Gonzaw and Mememntoss just aren't very smart, and Paqman is scum trying to hide in an alternative wagon for the day end.
-Blazinghand
lolwut? If I wanted to ride a wagon then I'd be agreeing with all the bullshit capslock you throw at marv. If I was scum I'd leave my vote on Mattchew and wait until D1 ends. But it's obvious that I have no support at all behind my case against so I'm making my vote go to the next best thing, Risen.
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so paq, whats your opinion on blazing's alignment?
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On April 23 2012 04:04 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 03:32 Mementoss wrote:
The more I think of it, the more I agree and like Gonzaws points on why lynching Risen is better than VE or BM.
VE very well could be JK, his claim doesn't make sense either side. If we don't lynch him and his claim is true, scum will most likely take care of him either tonight or the next night. Maybe by then he can somehow prove his claim. I think its best to wait it out. Worse case by lynching him we take out our own blue. Let mafia waste KP on that.
BM should be vigged if we have a vig, claim the shot before you shoot. If he doesn't die, We know that, either the shooter or BM is GF. Hes lurking and acting scummy, but hard to tell cause he has like 3 posts. Lynching him doesn't tell us anything if hes town, shooting him is the better option.
Also I like gonzaws case on Risen. His posts lack meaning and consistency. He has a hard time to commiting to anything and his emotions are all over the place. Im happy with a Risen lynch over the other two. Risen looks scummy, and the other two cases will hopefully work themselves out with night actions/ VE somehow confirms his claim then gets killed by mafia KP.
##Unvote: VisceraEyes
##Vote: Risen Show nested quote +If we don't lynch him and his claim is true, scum will most likely take care of him either tonight or the next night. If VE was right about anything it's that he is not a good shot for mafia. Saying let's not lynch this guy that people are willing to lynch because if he is town the mafia will kill him for us is crazy. If VE is town they his a a walking mislynch tying his own noose. Since mafia's greatest threat is the lynch, townies that might get mislynched are townies that the mafia benefit from keep alive. Please come up with a scenario in which this could happen. I can't think of one. no we don't (cough jailkeeper or a liar cough ) Show nested quote + Lynching him doesn't tell us anything if hes town, shooting him is the better option. wtf? who is lynching him for information? point them out so that we can all say that you never lynch for information because that is dumb, you lynch to hit scum. I don't get this "I want us to vig BM not lynch him" the lynch is reliable but a vig shot in a game that might not have vigi's could have multiple Jailkeepers and has 2 bulletproof mafia is not garanteed to get us a flip.
Wat. Why wouldn't mafia wanna kill the JK? They probably won't tonight. But they eventually will have to. You really think they are going to leave a potential JK alive all game? If he can't prove his claim/ mafia doesn't kill him we can eventually lynchhim.
He can prove his claim by JKin a person and if we have a tracker tracks him, then if we have a tracker they can correctly say he did. Or if he happens to JK someone that was going to be hit by mafia and successfully saves him, aka only 1 KP goes through. I think your just being ignorant with this statment lol.
What JK is going to JK BM? None. None that want town to win. Also, as town why would you lie? You claim your shot before hand and then if it doesn't go through on BM its either a fake claim or GF. Lynch them both and we get 1 for 1. No reason for vig to lie at all. Also can you really tell someone is scum off of 3 lines of post/ action? I doubt it. Thats why it seems like a complete guess if hes scum or not. That is why he is a good vig shot. Lets lynch someone with the best case against them that is most likely to flip scum.
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On April 23 2012 04:36 PaqMan wrote:
Oh jebus, you caught me. How about you try throwing down some proof instead of spouting out senseless crap.
You deliberately say nothing about Marv all game except this and this:
On April 21 2012 23:00 PaqMan wrote:
BJ wtf did I just read. The only posts that made any sense was the one about the mass roleclaims and the fos on marvellosity, which I agree on.
I think he'd be a good candidate for a vigi shot. On April 21 2012 23:24 PaqMan wrote:
What are your thoughts on the current events? Do you think VE is right to call out Gonzaw as scum?
What do you think about Mattchew and Marvellosity? What about me??
You basically ignore any discussion about him because you are scum and afraid. You want him to be vigied instead of lynched because you talked to him in the scum QT and he was like "yeah i'm a godfather".
We're gonna lynch him, he'll flip GF, then we're gonna lynch you.
On April 23 2012 04:36 PaqMan wrote:
lolwut? If I wanted to ride a wagon then I'd be agreeing with all the bullshit capslock you throw at marv. If I was scum I'd leave my vote on Mattchew and wait until D1 ends. But it's obvious that I have no support at all behind my case against so I'm making my vote go to the next best thing, Risen.
Paqman, why you scumslipping? If you were scum, wouldn't you leave your vote on Marv? Or do you actually think he's scum? ._.
Seriously though if you wanted to ride a wagon you'd get on a wagon that's not the lynch wagon and not Marv (who you want to live).
like the one you're on now.
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Also, brb lunch
-Blazinghand
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On April 23 2012 04:38 Mattchew wrote:
so paq, whats your opinion on blazing's alignment?
The way he's been acting is disruptive and chaotic. Either bad townie or good scum.
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On April 23 2012 04:45 PaqMan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 04:38 Mattchew wrote:
so paq, whats your opinion on blazing's alignment? The way he's been acting is disruptive and chaotic. Either bad townie or good scum.
A chaotic hydra? Shocking. How can you say bad town, good scum?
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On April 23 2012 04:39 BlazingJitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 04:36 PaqMan wrote:
Oh jebus, you caught me. How about you try throwing down some proof instead of spouting out senseless crap.
You deliberately say nothing about Marv all game except this and this: Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:00 PaqMan wrote:
BJ wtf did I just read. The only posts that made any sense was the one about the mass roleclaims and the fos on marvellosity, which I agree on.
I think he'd be a good candidate for a vigi shot. Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 23:24 PaqMan wrote:
What are your thoughts on the current events? Do you think VE is right to call out Gonzaw as scum?
What do you think about Mattchew and Marvellosity? What about me??
You basically ignore any discussion about him because you are scum and afraid. You want him to be vigied instead of lynched because you talked to him in the scum QT and he was like "yeah i'm a godfather". We're gonna lynch him, he'll flip GF, then we're gonna lynch you. Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 04:36 PaqMan wrote:
lolwut? If I wanted to ride a wagon then I'd be agreeing with all the bullshit capslock you throw at marv. If I was scum I'd leave my vote on Mattchew and wait until D1 ends. But it's obvious that I have no support at all behind my case against so I'm making my vote go to the next best thing, Risen. Paqman, why you scumslipping? If you were scum, wouldn't you leave your vote on Marv? Or do you actually think he's scum? ._. Seriously though if you wanted to ride a wagon you'd get on a wagon that's not the lynch wagon and not Marv (who you want to live). like the one you're on now.
I never voted on Marv, what the hell are you talking about. I don't need to mention him because you've been riding his dick the entire game. I also looove how you keep putting words in my mouth because you know I'm not scum and you dont got shit on me.
+ Show Spoiler +You want him to be vigied instead of lynched because you talked to him in the scum QT and he was like "yeah i'm a godfather" . dafuq?
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VisceraEyes' JK claim doesn't make sense, his reasoning for claiming is inconsistent as well as directly counter to his previous stance of not wanting to give mafia information, and has not provided any substantial case against anyone, which indicates that his matrying is fabricated rather than authentic. Most likely a scum lying to survive. Keeping him alive to let scum shoot him is foolishness, as they don't have to, and this will tie up D2 discussion. Additionally, his claim does explain his scummy actions that I point out in my case (apathy, fearmongering, misrepresentation etc.)
Marv's posting is fine and probably would be better if he didn't need to spend so much time defending himself against BJ.
BM is lurking, but should not be considered unless you think VE and marv isn't scum, as the case on him is minimal.
Risen seems to be the alternate for people who don't want to lynch VE because he claimed JK. They should reconsider their reasoning of keeping VE alive. We can look into Risen tomorrow.
Votes should start consolidating, and discussion should be centered around this. Anything else is derailing town's current focus, which is to agree and lynch the scummiest candidate.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 23 2012 04:51 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 04:45 PaqMan wrote:On April 23 2012 04:38 Mattchew wrote:
so paq, whats your opinion on blazing's alignment? The way he's been acting is disruptive and chaotic. Either bad townie or good scum. A chaotic hydra? Shocking. How can you say bad town, good scum? Chaotic? Yes. His arguments consist of [CAPSLOCK CAPS CAPS scream scream whine] + [marv is scum marv is scum MARV IS SCUM]. It's messy and hurts my eyes to look at. Good scum because he created a bandwagon on marv that everyone's jumping on.
Risen, you said you were catching up on the thread, what happened to that? You also said that you were working on a big analysis, and you have yet to counter Gonzaw's argument...
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On April 23 2012 04:39 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2012 04:04 layabout wrote:On April 23 2012 03:32 Mementoss wrote:
The more I think of it, the more I agree and like Gonzaws points on why lynching Risen is better than VE or BM.
VE very well could be JK, his claim doesn't make sense either side. If we don't lynch him and his claim is true, scum will most likely take care of him either tonight or the next night. Maybe by then he can somehow prove his claim. I think its best to wait it out. Worse case by lynching him we take out our own blue. Let mafia waste KP on that.
BM should be vigged if we have a vig, claim the shot before you shoot. If he doesn't die, We know that, either the shooter or BM is GF. Hes lurking and acting scummy, but hard to tell cause he has like 3 posts. Lynching him doesn't tell us anything if hes town, shooting him is the better option.
Also I like gonzaws case on Risen. His posts lack meaning and consistency. He has a hard time to commiting to anything and his emotions are all over the place. Im happy with a Risen lynch over the other two. Risen looks scummy, and the other two cases will hopefully work themselves out with night actions/ VE somehow confirms his claim then gets killed by mafia KP.
##Unvote: VisceraEyes
##Vote: Risen If we don't lynch him and his claim is true, scum will most likely take care of him either tonight or the next night. If VE was right about anything it's that he is not a good shot for mafia. Saying let's not lynch this guy that people are willing to lynch because if he is town the mafia will kill him for us is crazy. If VE is town they his a a walking mislynch tying his own noose. Since mafia's greatest threat is the lynch, townies that might get mislynched are townies that the mafia benefit from keep alive. Maybe by then he can somehow prove his claim Please come up with a scenario in which this could happen. I can't think of one. If he doesn't die, We know that, either the shooter or BM is GF. no we don't (cough jailkeeper or a liar cough ) Lynching him doesn't tell us anything if hes town, shooting him is the better option. wtf? who is lynching him for information? point them out so that we can all say that you never lynch for information because that is dumb, you lynch to hit scum. I don't get this "I want us to vig BM not lynch him" the lynch is reliable but a vig shot in a game that might not have vigi's could have multiple Jailkeepers and has 2 bulletproof mafia is not garanteed to get us a flip. 1]Wat. Why wouldn't mafia wanna kill the JK? They probably won't tonight. But they eventually will have to. You really think they are going to leave a potential JK alive all game? If he can't prove his claim/ mafia doesn't kill him we can eventually lynchhim. 2]He can prove his claim by JKin a person and if we have a tracker tracks him, then if we have a tracker they can correctly say he did. Or if he happens to JK someone that was going to be hit by mafia and successfully saves him, aka only 1 KP goes through. I think your just being ignorant with this statment lol. 3]What JK is going to JK BM? None. None that want town to win. Also, as town why would you lie? You claim your shot before hand and then if it doesn't go through on BM its either a fake claim or GF. Lynch them both and we get 1 for 1. No reason for vig to lie at all. Also can you really tell someone is scum off of 3 lines of post/ action? I doubt it. Thats why it seems like a complete guess if hes scum or not. That is why he is a good vig shot. Lets lynch someone with the best case against them that is most likely to flip scum.
1]>insert didn't read gif< you ask me a question in response to something which answer that very question. My point is that scum will be in no hurry to kill VE if he is a Jailkeeper, because they can quite easily get him mislynched which protects them and because they can legitimately call him out for being scummy and because attention on him is attention that isn't on them.
2]Oh right. We can prove his claim if somebody whos role we cannot verify without killing them claims tracker and tells us that he visited them.
Nobody is confirmed until they flip.
we can only verify that he visits somebody if a player tells us he visited them and then flips tracker. We then know he visited them. We cannot know if he protected them until we know for certain that the player he visited was not a Godfather and was not visited by a jailkeeper, because it is still possible that he is a goon or a vig. Even then it would still be possible (but pants on head retarded) that he is a tracker.
3]My point is that if he does not die after somebody claims to have shot him there are a number of possibilities.You said that if he didn't die we would know that either the shooter of BM was a Godfather. But not only would we not know but we have a player that claimed uncooperative jailkeeper. If you were a jailkeeper with a townread on BM would you let him get shot? Probably not.
Well what if a vig claims a shot on a godfather? If the mafia kill him then there should be no vig shot and we cannot infer anything about the target.
You insisted that we don't lynch BM but vig him instead. I have explained why we cannot rely on vigi's to kill players for us.
If you believe that as town you shouldn't lie and you believe that VE and Johnny are scumbuddies then i think your vote is on the wrong person
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On April 23 2012 04:54 slOosh wrote:
VisceraEyes' JK claim doesn't make sense, his reasoning for claiming is inconsistent as well as directly counter to his previous stance of not wanting to give mafia information, and has not provided any substantial case against anyone, which indicates that his matrying is fabricated rather than authentic. Most likely a scum lying to survive. Keeping him alive to let scum shoot him is foolishness, as they don't have to, and this will tie up D2 discussion. Additionally, his claim does explain his scummy actions that I point out in my case (apathy, fearmongering, misrepresentation etc.)
Marv's posting is fine and probably would be better if he didn't need to spend so much time defending himself against BJ.
BM is lurking, but should not be considered unless you think VE and marv isn't scum, as the case on him is minimal.
Risen seems to be the alternate for people who don't want to lynch VE because he claimed JK. They should reconsider their reasoning of keeping VE alive. We can look into Risen tomorrow.
Votes should start consolidating, and discussion should be centered around this. Anything else is derailing town's current focus, which is to agree and lynch the scummiest candidate.
No screw that. If VE is a blue JK then I don't understand why the hell Mafia wouldn't take him out. VE was in the lead with votes but BJ started a wagon on marv (who I believe is green). I'm starting to think BJ is just saving his scumbuddy by racking votes on a guy that doesn't know how to defend himself.
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I wouldn't worry about me MG. I'm always sheepy unfortunately. Does that mean I'm scum? No. It just means I'm bad and can't find arguments myself easily. But yeah, BM definitely is scummy in that he's here but he's not posting...but we won't get any information out of lynching him, so a vig shot would be better for him, like others said. Zephirdd looks scummy as hell though.
+ Show Spoiler +Zephirdd has hardly any posts so this should be a simple case. All of which are scummy. On April 21 2012 12:58 Zephirdd wrote:
/confirm
Usually millers have to claim as soon as they realize they are millers; However in this case the millers are also vigilantes, and we can't really protect them without RBing them.
I also will see a problem when, for example, one person claims vigilante; as in, the GFs didn't claim. Suddenly all the info we got from these "claims" is that our only vigilante is outed and mafia got a target on his head.
gonzaw didn't seem to care about this one possibility; I don't like that. I didn't read much past page 10 tho, and gotta go to sleep and go into my inactive mode(as I said before the game).
That's all.
~cya Here, let me provide you information that you already know! On April 22 2012 06:10 Zephirdd wrote:
k, too much to catch up on, too little time.
I see gonzaw arrived a reasonable way to "plan" vigilantes here. That is, a vigilante should just play as a normal vigi.
I still can't be sure who I should vote. I see marvellosity is leading the votecount, can someone provide me a link to a case of his, or even a page where I can find it?
I know it's silly to ask for that, but I am really busy atm and as much as I can condense what is happening, the easier it will be to catch up. I promise I'll do better day2 onwards Indecisive, not scumhunting, doesn't want to put in effort to help town (even though he's busy he should be able to look for at least that), apologetic about his inactivity. all simple scum tells. I'm busy I'm busy, please, try make more excuses. On April 23 2012 00:17 Zephirdd wrote:
God damnit layabout. I was about to post how VE's claim made sense and how he was town, but then you convince me the opposite. Geez.
And this martyring post from VE only makes sense from two PoVs:
- He really is a JK and he will let town use his flip information to deal with what happened during the day
- He is scum trying to sound like that.
Also, right now, I see no reason to lynch Bill Murray - he should be vigged, not lynched if he doesn't contribute soon.
VE, what is your stance on gonzaw, especially after his series of (Seemingly) drunk posts?
Also, please make the case against the certain scum you are talking about. Should you flip JK, we got something solid to work from. In fact, I'll take you are claiming scum if you don't do that. this post is just ridiculous. layabouts post seemingly made him drop all of his opinions and run the opposite direction in order to stay with the crowd. gives information we've already taken into account. asks questions and asks ve to make a case when he still hasnt made any of his opinions known besides that he thinks ve may be scum because he claimed. wow what an original opinion he arrived at. then goes on to say VE is scum if he doesnt comply with his own wishes...lol. On April 23 2012 02:07 Zephirdd wrote:
Gonzaw, please tell me why should we lynch risen over VE right now. There was a post RIGHT before that that zephirdd was referring to...which answered that question. If he saw the post, why didn't he read unless he's trying to ask questions to fit in? On April 23 2012 02:13 Zephirdd wrote:
I thought it was common sense that vigis claim their shot beforehand in order to allow JKs to coordinate themselves and especially because scum shouldnt NK a vigilante.. okay thats great but do you have anything new to add? a scum case? because as far as I'm concerned you're not doing anything pro-town at all. this post just makes himself look confused or smart or whatever in order to fit in. just ridiculous.
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