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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
July 13 2009 14:25 GMT
#41
^ What

There's 7 maps to be played on per set, and there's two sets.

It's basically a Bo2 of Bo7s
POGGERS
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 13 2009 14:26 GMT
#42
On July 13 2009 23:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 22:16 SuperArc wrote:
wow, zerg heavy CJ is thumbing down God's Garden o.o

God's Garden is a tough map for zerg against really strong terrans.


have you ever made a post that isnt wrong?
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 13 2009 14:29 GMT
#43
On July 13 2009 23:25 konadora wrote:
^ What

There's 7 maps to be played on per set, and there's two sets.

It's basically a Bo2 of Bo7s


Exactly, Oz just needs to win 1 set, with 2 players fluking it, which is quite possible, then JD cleans up in the final ace match if the sets are tied. So JD needs to win 2 games in 1 day and 2 Oz guys need to fluke it in one day, then JD cleans up in final day by winning Ace match. I see it, Jaedong winning PL + Golden Mouse would be epic.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 13 2009 14:32 GMT
#44
On July 13 2009 23:25 konadora wrote:
^ What

There's 7 maps to be played on per set, and there's two sets.

It's basically a Bo2 of Bo7s

Yeah the 7th map is a "closer" though. You could send Jaedong out on that too.
Then you could send him again in the Ace.

To win overall you only need to win 5 games. 3 of which can be played by the same player!
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
July 13 2009 14:32 GMT
#45
On July 13 2009 23:26 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 13 2009 22:16 SuperArc wrote:
wow, zerg heavy CJ is thumbing down God's Garden o.o

God's Garden is a tough map for zerg against really strong terrans.


have you ever made a post that isnt wrong?


Ha ha ha.

Oz is fucked in this format for sure. They are the most shallow team in the league. (That sounds kind of wierd, lol... I mean in terms of being opposite of deep)
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 13 2009 14:34 GMT
#46
On July 13 2009 23:32 For_The_Swarm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:26 IdrA wrote:
On July 13 2009 23:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 13 2009 22:16 SuperArc wrote:
wow, zerg heavy CJ is thumbing down God's Garden o.o

God's Garden is a tough map for zerg against really strong terrans.


have you ever made a post that isnt wrong?


Ha ha ha.

Oz is fucked in this format for sure. They are the most shallow team in the league. (That sounds kind of wierd, lol... I mean in terms of being opposite of deep)

/facepalm
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 13 2009 14:39 GMT
#47
Interesting, thanks for the update GTR
Sullifam
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 13 2009 14:41 GMT
#48
On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:

Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY


wait really?
this is bullshit...
Sullifam
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
July 13 2009 14:43 GMT
#49
Yeah my bad, wasn't thinking straight.

JAEDONG ONE DAY 3 WINS WOOT
POGGERS
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 13 2009 14:43 GMT
#50
On July 13 2009 23:41 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:

Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY


wait really?
this is bullshit...

Well you're alright you've got Effort
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
July 13 2009 14:44 GMT
#51
On July 13 2009 23:34 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:32 For_The_Swarm wrote:
On July 13 2009 23:26 IdrA wrote:
On July 13 2009 23:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 13 2009 22:16 SuperArc wrote:
wow, zerg heavy CJ is thumbing down God's Garden o.o

God's Garden is a tough map for zerg against really strong terrans.


have you ever made a post that isnt wrong?


Ha ha ha.

Oz is fucked in this format for sure. They are the most shallow team in the league. (That sounds kind of wierd, lol... I mean in terms of being opposite of deep)

/facepalm

indeed, humonguos facepalm at for_the_swarm. As is described on the last page, this is better for Oz if jaedong has awakened on the right side, they get 2 bo7 to scrape 2 wins from random players on the same day to claim victory.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 13 2009 14:45 GMT
#52
On July 13 2009 23:41 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:

Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY


wait really?
this is bullshit...

Not much different from a regular Bo7 where only two people besides JD need to win.
Arf
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 13 2009 14:48 GMT
#53
On July 13 2009 23:26 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 13 2009 22:16 SuperArc wrote:
wow, zerg heavy CJ is thumbing down God's Garden o.o

God's Garden is a tough map for zerg against really strong terrans.


have you ever made a post that isnt wrong?


Well, it's an easy assumption to make just looking at the stats - 13-13 in the MU according to tlpd.

Doing a little more poking around, it's 10-10 in Proleague, and the only qualifier is that most of the Zergs who lost are bad-to-mediorce Zergs playing decent-to-good Terrans.

So I'd say yes, GG can pose some problems (for a bad Zerg?) against a strong Terran - it's a Zerg-favored map, not a Zerg auto-win map (Battle Royale what?).
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 13 2009 14:48 GMT
#54
On July 13 2009 23:45 TwoStep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:41 ghostWriter wrote:
On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:

Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY


wait really?
this is bullshit...

Not much different from a regular Bo7 where only two people besides JD need to win.


Yeah but this time Oz gets two chances + the ability to awaken angry Jaedong after JD or Oz fail.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
July 13 2009 14:48 GMT
#55
On July 13 2009 23:45 TwoStep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:41 ghostWriter wrote:
On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:

Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY


wait really?
this is bullshit...

Not much different from a regular Bo7 where only two people besides JD need to win.

getting 2 bo7:s to accomplish it is clearly a buff...
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 13 2009 14:54 GMT
#56
On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:

Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY

What? In this situation Oz would lose =/
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 13 2009 14:55 GMT
#57
On July 13 2009 23:48 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:26 IdrA wrote:
On July 13 2009 23:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 13 2009 22:16 SuperArc wrote:
wow, zerg heavy CJ is thumbing down God's Garden o.o

God's Garden is a tough map for zerg against really strong terrans.


have you ever made a post that isnt wrong?


Well, it's an easy assumption to make just looking at the stats - 13-13 in the MU according to tlpd.

Doing a little more poking around, it's 10-10 in Proleague, and the only qualifier is that most of the Zergs who lost are bad-to-mediorce Zergs playing decent-to-good Terrans.

So I'd say yes, GG can pose some problems (for a bad Zerg?) against a strong Terran - it's a Zerg-favored map, not a Zerg auto-win map (Battle Royale what?).

which is why its utterly retarded to try to judge anything off stats, especially a 26 game pool
its massively z favored. ya if ptak plays against flash its gonna seem pretty tough zvt. not otherwise.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 13 2009 14:58 GMT
#58
The only stat that matter is this one:
Mirrors: 5 TvT | 32 ZvZ | 6 PvP
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 13 2009 15:01 GMT
#59
I am honestly confused by why anyone thinks this is a good idea. Extend the match to a Bo7 for playoffs, fine. Less flukey, favors the deeper teams, etc. it's a great idea.

This? Much as I understand that the stations would argue over who gets to cast what...

1) Don't the teams get any say in this? I can't imagine this is making anybody happy, especially CJ (MSL), SK (MSL, OSL), hite (OSL). In fact, given that last one, I'd half expect hite to just throw the games so they've got the practice time back.

2) If this is a KeSPA scheme, KeSPA goes back in the PR this month.

3) WIth this many games to play, in the middle of meaningful individual league games, these games are going to be terrible. Too much play for bad players. On the other hand, KHAN suddenly looks to have a shot - nothing else to practice for.

4) A normal week of PL, 12 teams playing, has up to 50 games, minimum 30. Up to 30 games, minimum 16, for four teams? You have got to be kidding me.

5) Suspense? What suspense? Saturday's games... don't really matter.

I guess you can try to justify it by a comparison to Champion's League football or whatever, but that's sort of different, given the whole bit where it's possible to win there with an aggregate 1-0.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 13 2009 15:05 GMT
#60
On July 13 2009 23:54 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 23:21 Klive5ive wrote:
This is clearly a fix. Oz must've bribed Kespa LOTS.
The other players only need to win 2 out of 10!

Just imagine:
+ Show Spoiler +
Day1:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz Fail
Game 5:
Game 6:

Oz lose the first day

Day2:
Game 1: Oz Fail
Game 2: Oz Fail
Game 3: Oz Fail
Game 4: Oz fluke a win
Game 5: Oz fluke a win
Game 6: Jaedong wins
Closer: Jaedong wins
Ace: Jaedong wins.... Oz CLAIM TRIUMPHANT "TEAM" VICTORY

What? In this situation Oz would lose =/

.... I'm confused now.
You're implying they take aggregate score into account?
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