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Complaints about moderation and freedom of speech are for the website feedback forums. They will be treated as being off topic and dealt with appropriately.

No more Iron Lady talk, no more gender debate. This is a thread about a StarCraft player. Last I checked what's in between your legs has no impact on how you play the game.

I agree with some of the comments here that the moderation on this thread has been dreadful. It's way too soft. I have gone ahead and simply deleted a bunch of comments that fail TL's community standards. Yes, those standards are determined by the mods. Yes, those standards are not perfect nor even uniformly applied. But we try our best. Spare us your righteous indignation over any notional impairment of free speech. This is a private site. It's a club. There is no "right" to free speech here. We only tolerate quality speech. By who's standards? Ours. Go read the TL Ten Commandments. And if you don't like this policy or our way of running our house, leave. - mensrea
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
April 17 2012 15:42 GMT
#541
Congrats. Hope Scarlett goes places. We need a Tossgirl in SC2.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
April 17 2012 15:43 GMT
#542
The people in here making immature remarks need to realize nobody gives a flying fuck about your opinions, your embarrassing all of e-sports coming in here with medieval hate and nobody wants to read the bull crap you throw on your keyboard... take your insults to another forum because your wasting your own and the mods time.
http://justin.tv/flyingtoilet
SkaPunk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States471 Posts
April 17 2012 15:45 GMT
#543
glyo Ms. Scarlett!
Team Fallacy
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
April 17 2012 15:46 GMT
#544
What do you mean "we"? Just let tournaments handle this themselves...
Also STOP GOING OFFTOPIC
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
April 17 2012 15:48 GMT
#545
sorry for going off topic, didn't realize until i surfed back through a couple pages of posts :/ also good luck to scarlett and her team!
http://justin.tv/flyingtoilet
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
April 17 2012 15:57 GMT
#546
I can't wait to see her at MLG Anaheim. Her better games had better at least be on the premium streams. I love these underdog stories. I get way more excited than I should.
#2throwed
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
April 17 2012 15:57 GMT
#547
Gratz, good luck.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 17 2012 16:02 GMT
#548
Man, I thought this was about Major having a new team...
Scarlett sounds like a name he would use.
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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 17 2012 16:03 GMT
#549
On April 18 2012 00:58 skyflyfish wrote:
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On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:
A lot of people are going to look at the headline and original post, and ask themselves what difference does it really make whether you're a female or male. And to be honest, it doesn't really matter 99% of the time

But then when you enter the Iron Lady tournament, the 1% pops up and asks the question. And in my opinion, fails the question from an anatomy standpoint.

In my world of mixed martial arts, a transgender would not get away with entering (and automatically winning) a WMMA contest. They would perform a simple epitestosterone level check, and the transgender would fail that test. I would imagine Scarlett failing a epitestosterone test as well.

I'm only bringing this up to point out that the second place finisher of the Iron Lady tournament is probably the true winner.

User was temp banned for this post.


why is this guy got banned?does he insult any1 or there's no more freedom of speech in TL. such a shame


Its off-topic, the mods warned about it. Also its a general guideline of TL to keep it ontopic. If you make a dedicated post about the transgender issue @ the ironlady tournament it probably wouldn't be a problem.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 09:59:07
April 17 2012 16:04 GMT
#550
On April 18 2012 00:58 skyflyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:


User was temp banned for this post.


why is this guy got banned?does he insult any1 or there's no more freedom of speech in TL. such a shame

Because it's a stupid post. Go ask any of the organizers and participants to the Iron Lady tournaments (who were informed of Scarlett's situation) if they feel robbed of a first place. I'll guarantee you there won't be anyone there that thinks this is some sort of outrage. In any case, you should take this up at website feedback, or PM a mob and not derail discussion here.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 10:00:03
April 17 2012 16:06 GMT
#551
On April 18 2012 00:58 skyflyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:
.

User was temp banned for this post.


why is this guy got banned?did he insult any1 or there's no more freedom of speech in TL. such a shame


Cause it has nothing to do with the post? This isnt a thread about female vs male competition. Its a thread about scrarlet joining Eclypsia.
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
DrPhilOfdOOm
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden353 Posts
April 17 2012 16:06 GMT
#552
Gratz Scarlett ! GL to both parts!
nreekay324
Profile Joined February 2012
46 Posts
April 17 2012 16:11 GMT
#553
On April 17 2012 23:08 kusto wrote:
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On April 17 2012 23:01 Snoodles wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:49 kusto wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:39 Snoodles wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:31 Sea_Food wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:23 Sea_Food wrote:
I didnt respect her at first cos i think she was overhyped as her only achievement is 44th place in a tournament, but now as a teamy of the great desrow I think I must give her some respect.

User was warned for this post


Oh sorry for calling Desrow good.


LMAO best followup.

Anyways, people here would benefit from a gender studies class. Men, women, and everything in between is all a matter of a few hormones. We're all the same people, and some are born into the wrong body. Yes, it's great to see girls kicking ass because culturally they're just not playing competitively.scarlett and msspyte are showing great promise.


The structural differences of the male/female brain origin in genetic difference, which is existent of course.


We exaggerate those differences to abuse the perceived advantages of being men. You're just a few hormone injections away from growing boobs and losing your upper-body strength. Your male parts are just a rearrangement of the female parts triggered by androgen exposure in the womb. In some cases, a genetic male will be insensitive to androgen and develop a completely anatomical female body, that is anXY woman \. A genetic male in a woman's body. That is just one example of all the little nuances that go on in sexual development. We all play a genetic lotttery and don't choose what we're born with. Racism, sexism, and heteronormative bias are all just cases where we pretend to be virtuous in being a "real man" or a woman or certain race, all things that we didn't choose and it's a disgrace to call it "normal" in order to exclude others from happiness.

Did you know that in Brazil the government is now required to cover sex change operations under health care?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20323334/ns/health-health_care/t/brazil-provide-free-sex-change-operations/#.T41zVtWQOP1



I am not talking about sex change or hormons. The source of your congnitive abilities lies in the brain. The way neural connections are developed in the first years of the human life is decoded in DNA. You can't really change that fundamentally by injecting hormons when your brain is already developed to a large extent.


It is entirely correct to say that your cognitive abilities = your brain, and that most of you neural connections are most rapidly developed in your first years of life. It is then also relatively correct to say that much of this has to do with your DNA. However it becomes much less relatively correct to cite that the difference in male/female brains solely leads to cultural professional trends (few girls play starcraft professionally, referring to snoodles' comment).The genetic variation between female and male brains exist, of course, but there are also tons of genetic variation between any two peoples' brains, whether same or different gender. Other factors (environment, etc.) play an important part on your brain too, creating even more variation, because our brains adjust to our perceived learning, too. And so to get somewhat more on topic; in the end, Scarlett's commitment to hard-work/ practice / learning will be what earns her more respect (or less).

I was drawn into this thread when I learned she was dubbed "korean kryptonite" by the ign's brief summary of ipl. Just awesome.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
April 17 2012 16:12 GMT
#554
She earned it. Congrats.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
epidGoaty
Profile Joined December 2010
United States219 Posts
April 17 2012 16:22 GMT
#555
On April 18 2012 01:03 Loxley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 00:58 skyflyfish wrote:
On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:
A lot of people are going to look at the headline and original post, and ask themselves what difference does it really make whether you're a female or male. And to be honest, it doesn't really matter 99% of the time

But then when you enter the Iron Lady tournament, the 1% pops up and asks the question. And in my opinion, fails the question from an anatomy standpoint.

In my world of mixed martial arts, a transgender would not get away with entering (and automatically winning) a WMMA contest. They would perform a simple epitestosterone level check, and the transgender would fail that test. I would imagine Scarlett failing a epitestosterone test as well.

I'm only bringing this up to point out that the second place finisher of the Iron Lady tournament is probably the true winner.

User was temp banned for this post.


why is this guy got banned?does he insult any1 or there's no more freedom of speech in TL. such a shame


Its off-topic, the mods warned about it. Also its a general guideline of TL to keep it ontopic. If you make a dedicated post about the transgender issue @ the ironlady tournament it probably wouldn't be a problem.


His post was sort of on topic if you ask me. And he raises a valid point (I am just looking from the other side of the fence here).

To calrify I for one SUPPORT THIS and her ability to play in iron lady (this is not a physical competition where I could see there being a difference) and I wish Scarlett the best of luck! Enjoyed watching her games at IPL!! Will be rooting for her at MLG Ana. :D
ePGoaty - Manager, Team Epidemic - www.team-epidemic.com
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 10:00:45
April 17 2012 16:22 GMT
#556
On April 18 2012 01:04 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 00:58 skyflyfish wrote:
On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:


User was temp banned for this post.


why is this guy got banned?does he insult any1 or there's no more freedom of speech in TL. such a shame

Because it's a stupid post. Go ask any of the organizers and participants to the Iron Lady tournaments (who were informed of Scarlett's situation) if they feel robbed of a first place. I'll guarantee you there won't be anyone there that thinks this is some sort of outrage. In any case, you should take this up at website feedback, or PM a mob and not derail discussion here.


Why would they feel robbed?

There seems to be something I'm missing here, did she cheat or something or did her adversary not attend the finals?

Pardon my ignorance, that's the first time I'm reading about her and I haven't seen the Iron Lady Tournament.

€: Nevermind, it's clear now!

Congrats on the team pickup, some of the results are pretty impressive, though it must feel weird being amongst the first progamers who are being beaten by a girl.
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CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
April 17 2012 16:28 GMT
#557
some of the bans in this topic are far too strict imo

gratz Scarlett

User was warned for this post
halfies
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom327 Posts
April 17 2012 16:31 GMT
#558
the idea that men are inherently better at video games is retarded. men are often physically stronger, which is why in football, rugby etc they dont play with women. but unless your using a 5 kg mouse and keys with car suspension springs, its not a factor in esports.
if you think it through logically, the chance of any one being really good at sc2 is tiny, and then if you multiply that number by the fraction of sc2 player who are girls, youll see why there are no code s girls.
this thread is just full of people who wish they were good enough to be picked up by eclypsia, and because they aren't, they are jealous that someone else is, and are trying to convince themselves that it is in someway unfair.
if any of them had beaten terious(? i am confused as to which one he actaully is), ddro, demu, or even taken one game off Oz, then they might have a point. but obviously, they havent

User was temp banned for this post.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 10:01:45
April 17 2012 16:31 GMT
#559
On April 18 2012 00:58 skyflyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:
.

User was temp banned for this post.


why is this guy got banned?did he insult any1 or there's no more freedom of speech in TL. such a shame


because the mods have posted like 4 times to stop bringing up her gender.
Crying
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria778 Posts
April 17 2012 16:36 GMT
#560
the banhammer here is strong.

Anyway gratz to her for beating these players.
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