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Complaints about moderation and freedom of speech are for the website feedback forums. They will be treated as being off topic and dealt with appropriately.

No more Iron Lady talk, no more gender debate. This is a thread about a StarCraft player. Last I checked what's in between your legs has no impact on how you play the game.

I agree with some of the comments here that the moderation on this thread has been dreadful. It's way too soft. I have gone ahead and simply deleted a bunch of comments that fail TL's community standards. Yes, those standards are determined by the mods. Yes, those standards are not perfect nor even uniformly applied. But we try our best. Spare us your righteous indignation over any notional impairment of free speech. This is a private site. It's a club. There is no "right" to free speech here. We only tolerate quality speech. By who's standards? Ours. Go read the TL Ten Commandments. And if you don't like this policy or our way of running our house, leave. - mensrea
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 13:41:03
April 17 2012 13:39 GMT
#521
On April 17 2012 22:31 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 22:23 Sea_Food wrote:
I didnt respect her at first cos i think she was overhyped as her only achievement is 44th place in a tournament, but now as a teamy of the great desrow I think I must give her some respect.

User was warned for this post


Oh sorry for calling Desrow good.


LMAO best followup.

Anyways, people here would benefit from a gender studies class. Men, women, and everything in between is all a matter of a few hormones. We're all the same people, and some are born into the wrong body. Yes, it's great to see girls kicking ass because culturally they're just not playing competitively.scarlett and msspyte are showing great promise.

User was temp banned for this post.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
April 17 2012 13:49 GMT
#522
On April 17 2012 22:39 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 22:31 Sea_Food wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:23 Sea_Food wrote:
I didnt respect her at first cos i think she was overhyped as her only achievement is 44th place in a tournament, but now as a teamy of the great desrow I think I must give her some respect.

User was warned for this post


Oh sorry for calling Desrow good.


LMAO best followup.

Anyways, people here would benefit from a gender studies class. Men, women, and everything in between is all a matter of a few hormones. We're all the same people, and some are born into the wrong body. Yes, it's great to see girls kicking ass because culturally they're just not playing competitively.scarlett and msspyte are showing great promise.


The structural differences of the male/female brain origin in genetic difference, which is existent of course.


User was temp banned for this post.
the game is the game
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
April 17 2012 13:50 GMT
#523
Makes you wonder whether a girl wanting to be a guy would get the same reception on here.

How is she supposed to get motivation, when she looks at her own hype thread and sees all this garbage from people?
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
April 17 2012 13:52 GMT
#524
On April 17 2012 22:04 syllogism wrote:
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On April 17 2012 21:48 HeroMystic wrote:
I've seen some trash threads on TL.net, but this is an all-time low. I can't believe 20 of the pages are filled with irrelevant bashing just because of Scarlett's personal life.

Can we get off the topic? Scarlett is Scarlett, and that's all anyone needs to know and care about.

Certainly, but it's also disingenuous to pretend that's not one of the reasons she is getting (positive) attention and has a fanbase

Unlike pretty much every female gamer, Scarlett came to attention by beating koreans.

That alone means she can't be dismissed in the same way as so many of the other female signings.
mawno
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden114 Posts
April 17 2012 13:58 GMT
#525
Good luck Scarlett!
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
April 17 2012 13:58 GMT
#526
Congrats Scarlett! Hope to see you stream soon :D
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12891 Posts
April 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#527
so many negativity towards this. Really weird :S
She didn't do anything wrong or anything, all she did was be honest to the crowd and played well.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Izmir Stinger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States34 Posts
April 17 2012 14:00 GMT
#528
Who are their sponsors? I can't find any information.
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 14:03:56
April 17 2012 14:01 GMT
#529
On April 17 2012 22:49 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 22:39 Snoodles wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:31 Sea_Food wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:23 Sea_Food wrote:
I didnt respect her at first cos i think she was overhyped as her only achievement is 44th place in a tournament, but now as a teamy of the great desrow I think I must give her some respect.

User was warned for this post


Oh sorry for calling Desrow good.


LMAO best followup.

Anyways, people here would benefit from a gender studies class. Men, women, and everything in between is all a matter of a few hormones. We're all the same people, and some are born into the wrong body. Yes, it's great to see girls kicking ass because culturally they're just not playing competitively.scarlett and msspyte are showing great promise.


The structural differences of the male/female brain origin in genetic difference, which is existent of course.


We exaggerate those differences to abuse the perceived advantages of being men. You're just a few hormone injections away from growing boobs and losing your upper-body strength. Your male parts are just a rearrangement of the female parts triggered by androgen exposure in the womb. In some cases, a genetic male will be insensitive to androgen and develop a completely anatomical female body, that is anXY woman \. A genetic male in a woman's body. That is just one example of all the little nuances that go on in sexual development. We all play a genetic lotttery and don't choose what we're born with. Racism, sexism, and heteronormative bias are all just cases where we pretend to be virtuous in being a "real man" or a woman or certain race, all things that we didn't choose and it's a disgrace to call it "normal" in order to exclude others from happiness.

Did you know that in Brazil the government is now required to cover sex change operations under health care?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20323334/ns/health-health_care/t/brazil-provide-free-sex-change-operations/#.T41zVtWQOP1

Brain differences are still unproven as only recently has society been offering women the same opportunity as men. If you look at US statistics, girls are doing better in a lot of academic fields that they werent doing before. Give it another 50 years before you claim that men are objectively better at things like math or spatial reasoning or logic.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
April 17 2012 14:08 GMT
#530
On April 17 2012 23:01 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 22:49 kusto wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:39 Snoodles wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:31 Sea_Food wrote:
On April 17 2012 22:23 Sea_Food wrote:
I didnt respect her at first cos i think she was overhyped as her only achievement is 44th place in a tournament, but now as a teamy of the great desrow I think I must give her some respect.

User was warned for this post


Oh sorry for calling Desrow good.


LMAO best followup.

Anyways, people here would benefit from a gender studies class. Men, women, and everything in between is all a matter of a few hormones. We're all the same people, and some are born into the wrong body. Yes, it's great to see girls kicking ass because culturally they're just not playing competitively.scarlett and msspyte are showing great promise.


The structural differences of the male/female brain origin in genetic difference, which is existent of course.


We exaggerate those differences to abuse the perceived advantages of being men. You're just a few hormone injections away from growing boobs and losing your upper-body strength. Your male parts are just a rearrangement of the female parts triggered by androgen exposure in the womb. In some cases, a genetic male will be insensitive to androgen and develop a completely anatomical female body, that is anXY woman \. A genetic male in a woman's body. That is just one example of all the little nuances that go on in sexual development. We all play a genetic lotttery and don't choose what we're born with. Racism, sexism, and heteronormative bias are all just cases where we pretend to be virtuous in being a "real man" or a woman or certain race, all things that we didn't choose and it's a disgrace to call it "normal" in order to exclude others from happiness.

Did you know that in Brazil the government is now required to cover sex change operations under health care?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20323334/ns/health-health_care/t/brazil-provide-free-sex-change-operations/#.T41zVtWQOP1



I am not talking about sex change or hormons. The source of your congnitive abilities lies in the brain. The way neural connections are developed in the first years of the human life is decoded in DNA. You can't really change that fundamentally by injecting hormons when your brain is already developed to a large extent.
the game is the game
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
April 17 2012 14:12 GMT
#531
On April 17 2012 21:42 Pholon wrote:
gender discussion stops now. don't care what side you're on.

This was just posted, wake up people and get back on topic.
Lozos
Profile Joined February 2012
United States36 Posts
April 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#532
I thought real teams were looking into Scarlett.
Keith > Piglet
Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
April 17 2012 14:36 GMT
#533
So.. is she allowed to participate in female tournaments?
Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States535 Posts
April 17 2012 14:38 GMT
#534
Grats to Scarlett and her new team for the pick up, hope to see her kick some ass here in the near future! ^_^
Live it up.
p1cKLes
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
April 17 2012 14:40 GMT
#535
She’s played for a year and is epic. I’ve played for almost 2 years, and it took me almost all of that to break out of gold and into platinum Good for her though, I think that’s awesome!
emberUK
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom6 Posts
April 17 2012 14:42 GMT
#536
On April 17 2012 23:36 Phays wrote:
So.. is she allowed to participate in female tournaments?


Yes. Look at her Liquipedia page ((Wiki)Scarlett), she won two consecutive Iron Lady cups.
Lazorstrats
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands43 Posts
April 17 2012 14:45 GMT
#537
Good to see a female player getting attention outside of female-only tournaments with an impressive showing at IPL . Congrats to her and her team!
It's time to roll the dice. - Mat Cauthon
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
April 17 2012 15:01 GMT
#538
hope she'll be that one player that shines on team Eclypsia, and I think she will due to her innate talent for SCII.
Doof
Profile Joined October 2010
United States204 Posts
April 17 2012 15:06 GMT
#539
Those wins at IPL are a sick record for anyone, never mind the fact that she's a new comer and female. That's just great all around. Best of luck to Scarlett and Eclypsia! Hope to see her at tournaments in the future!
Every day should be a good day to die
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 09:57:09
April 17 2012 15:33 GMT
#540
On April 18 2012 00:25 MuB wrote:
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The 18 year old Canadian only started playing a year ago and first started to make a name for herself this Autumn, winning two Iron Lady Champion Cups.


[Deleted for inappropriate content.]

... Stop the gender debate.

And you are actually wrong. Or at least this is what the current field of research in gender differences is hinting at. To be a bit more specific, more and more psychological and cognitive differences between men and women (eye-hand coordination, ability in scientific VS literary domains, level of empathy and ability to relate to one's condition) can be explained by the differences in perceived power between individuals. Since women have overall a lower perceived power than men, this differences appear in men VS women experiments, but sex does not seem to be the main driver of the effect.

If you are interested in this, I can PM you some papers. But for now, back on topic.

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