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Complaints about moderation and freedom of speech are for the website feedback forums. They will be treated as being off topic and dealt with appropriately. No more Iron Lady talk, no more gender debate. This is a thread about a StarCraft player. Last I checked what's in between your legs has no impact on how you play the game. I agree with some of the comments here that the moderation on this thread has been dreadful. It's way too soft. I have gone ahead and simply deleted a bunch of comments that fail TL's community standards. Yes, those standards are determined by the mods. Yes, those standards are not perfect nor even uniformly applied. But we try our best. Spare us your righteous indignation over any notional impairment of free speech. This is a private site. It's a club. There is no "right" to free speech here. We only tolerate quality speech. By who's standards? Ours. Go read the TL Ten Commandments. And if you don't like this policy or our way of running our house, leave. - mensrea | ||
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Snoodles
401 Posts
LMAO best followup. Anyways, people here would benefit from a gender studies class. Men, women, and everything in between is all a matter of a few hormones. We're all the same people, and some are born into the wrong body. Yes, it's great to see girls kicking ass because culturally they're just not playing competitively.scarlett and msspyte are showing great promise. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On April 17 2012 22:39 Snoodles wrote: LMAO best followup. Anyways, people here would benefit from a gender studies class. Men, women, and everything in between is all a matter of a few hormones. We're all the same people, and some are born into the wrong body. Yes, it's great to see girls kicking ass because culturally they're just not playing competitively.scarlett and msspyte are showing great promise. The structural differences of the male/female brain origin in genetic difference, which is existent of course. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
How is she supposed to get motivation, when she looks at her own hype thread and sees all this garbage from people? | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On April 17 2012 22:04 syllogism wrote: Certainly, but it's also disingenuous to pretend that's not one of the reasons she is getting (positive) attention and has a fanbase Unlike pretty much every female gamer, Scarlett came to attention by beating koreans. That alone means she can't be dismissed in the same way as so many of the other female signings. | ||
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mawno
Sweden114 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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ETisME
12758 Posts
She didn't do anything wrong or anything, all she did was be honest to the crowd and played well. | ||
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Izmir Stinger
United States34 Posts
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Snoodles
401 Posts
On April 17 2012 22:49 kusto wrote: The structural differences of the male/female brain origin in genetic difference, which is existent of course. We exaggerate those differences to abuse the perceived advantages of being men. You're just a few hormone injections away from growing boobs and losing your upper-body strength. Your male parts are just a rearrangement of the female parts triggered by androgen exposure in the womb. In some cases, a genetic male will be insensitive to androgen and develop a completely anatomical female body, that is anXY woman \. A genetic male in a woman's body. That is just one example of all the little nuances that go on in sexual development. We all play a genetic lotttery and don't choose what we're born with. Racism, sexism, and heteronormative bias are all just cases where we pretend to be virtuous in being a "real man" or a woman or certain race, all things that we didn't choose and it's a disgrace to call it "normal" in order to exclude others from happiness. Did you know that in Brazil the government is now required to cover sex change operations under health care? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20323334/ns/health-health_care/t/brazil-provide-free-sex-change-operations/#.T41zVtWQOP1 Brain differences are still unproven as only recently has society been offering women the same opportunity as men. If you look at US statistics, girls are doing better in a lot of academic fields that they werent doing before. Give it another 50 years before you claim that men are objectively better at things like math or spatial reasoning or logic. | ||
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On April 17 2012 23:01 Snoodles wrote: We exaggerate those differences to abuse the perceived advantages of being men. You're just a few hormone injections away from growing boobs and losing your upper-body strength. Your male parts are just a rearrangement of the female parts triggered by androgen exposure in the womb. In some cases, a genetic male will be insensitive to androgen and develop a completely anatomical female body, that is anXY woman \. A genetic male in a woman's body. That is just one example of all the little nuances that go on in sexual development. We all play a genetic lotttery and don't choose what we're born with. Racism, sexism, and heteronormative bias are all just cases where we pretend to be virtuous in being a "real man" or a woman or certain race, all things that we didn't choose and it's a disgrace to call it "normal" in order to exclude others from happiness. Did you know that in Brazil the government is now required to cover sex change operations under health care? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20323334/ns/health-health_care/t/brazil-provide-free-sex-change-operations/#.T41zVtWQOP1 I am not talking about sex change or hormons. The source of your congnitive abilities lies in the brain. The way neural connections are developed in the first years of the human life is decoded in DNA. You can't really change that fundamentally by injecting hormons when your brain is already developed to a large extent. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8096 Posts
On April 17 2012 21:42 Pholon wrote: gender discussion stops now. don't care what side you're on. This was just posted, wake up people and get back on topic. | ||
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Lozos
United States36 Posts
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Phays
Sweden162 Posts
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Treva
United States535 Posts
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p1cKLes
United States342 Posts
 Good for her though, I think that’s awesome! | ||
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emberUK
United Kingdom6 Posts
On April 17 2012 23:36 Phays wrote: So.. is she allowed to participate in female tournaments? Yes. Look at her Liquipedia page (  Scarlett), she won two consecutive Iron Lady cups. | ||
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Lazorstrats
Netherlands43 Posts
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ref4
2933 Posts
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Doof
United States204 Posts
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Ahelvin
France1866 Posts
... Stop the gender debate. And you are actually wrong. Or at least this is what the current field of research in gender differences is hinting at. To be a bit more specific, more and more psychological and cognitive differences between men and women (eye-hand coordination, ability in scientific VS literary domains, level of empathy and ability to relate to one's condition) can be explained by the differences in perceived power between individuals. Since women have overall a lower perceived power than men, this differences appear in men VS women experiments, but sex does not seem to be the main driver of the effect. If you are interested in this, I can PM you some papers. But for now, back on topic. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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