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On March 13 2010 15:33 Zona wrote:
I would like to call out L, nemY, and Bloodycobbler for voting for d3_crescentia.
Not being allowed to abstain in votes is a huge plus for town members as votes reveal information that can be used to evaluate a player later in the game.
Yet the three of you subvert that by essentially abstaining by voting for someone who has basically not participated in the game so far. Explain yourselves - why can you not commit to helping the town by leaving a paper trail of your opinion?
Easy answer - because they didn't like/trust any of the other candidates. Why would anyone jeopardize their own chances at winning by voting for your own rival, mafia or not? It's not very smart.
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On March 13 2010 15:33 Zona wrote:
I would like to call out L, nemY, and Bloodycobbler for voting for d3_crescentia.
Not being allowed to abstain in votes is a huge plus for town members as votes reveal information that can be used to evaluate a player later in the game.
Yet the three of you subvert that by essentially abstaining by voting for someone who has basically not participated in the game so far. Explain yourselves - why can you not commit to helping the town by leaving a paper trail of your opinion?
Uh, who would I vote for, exactly? I wanted mayor and voting for BC would have pushed me farther from that, and voting for incog would have pushed me out of pardoner. BC didn't need the votes because was far in first, and I can't vote for myself.
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On March 13 2010 13:45 Bill Murray wrote:
So I suspiciously voted for the person I wanted to vote for originally? you all make me laugh.
The timing of it was off because I wasn't even thinking "you know, you can totally screw this guy who wanted to lynch you" until JeeJee brought it to my attention.
Tough shit, L. Sorry you didn't get to lynch me. If BC does, that's his decision. I'm going to like him whether he does it or not. If he does lynch me, though, I guaran-fucking-tee you I'm going to be flipping blue, green, or black. Anyone want to step up and put their head on the line for Day 2 if I don't flip red?
I can't trust anyone, because I'm the only person I know is a townie. I have noone.
I'll put myself up. Let's go to hell and back together BM!
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On March 13 2010 15:33 Zona wrote:
I would like to call out L, nemY, and Bloodycobbler for voting for d3_crescentia.
Not being allowed to abstain in votes is a huge plus for town members as votes reveal information that can be used to evaluate a player later in the game.
Yet the three of you subvert that by essentially abstaining by voting for someone who has basically not participated in the game so far. Explain yourselves - why can you not commit to helping the town by leaving a paper trail of your opinion?
Well L and BC obviously weren't going to vote for each other....Lol....
Nemy is another story, but L and BC weren't gonna vote, L, Incog, or BC. That would just give their opponent more votes....common sense?
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On March 13 2010 15:17 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 13:10 madnessman wrote:On March 13 2010 12:53 citi.zen wrote:On March 13 2010 12:42 Foolishness wrote:On March 13 2010 12:38 citi.zen wrote:
Thank you Zona. Finally someone else gets it: the dt is huge in this game, and needs to play ultra safe. The medic is another story, if there is a mafia driver (also huge, as 8've been saying). Don't trust... anyone right now, it's just day 1 (a looooong one, to be sure). Madnessman worries me. Foolishness too. Plus those trying to confuse dts. Also, I continue to be amazed at how articulate bill is this game. Night&day change, how can this be?? I'm not worried. You changed your vote 3 times during the day. I'm sure you'll have a different opinion tomorrow, of which I will be ready to do a good ol' nobody cares! My vote did change, but my approach remained consistent: vote people who claimed blue. So yeah, you can hope I will change my mind. But will it happen? BOO! I initially voted BC because he claimed to be DT, and a DT in one of the mayoral positions is extremely extremely helpful for the town. When it became clear that BC was definitely going to be mayor, I changed my vote to L, because he implied that he too is a powerful blue, and Incog never seemed to deny that he was a green. HOWEVER, as I was skimming through the posts I had missed, I came across this: On March 13 2010 08:57 Incognito wrote:On March 13 2010 07:58 L wrote:On March 13 2010 01:49 Incognito wrote:On March 13 2010 01:32 L wrote:On March 13 2010 01:12 citi.zen wrote:On March 13 2010 00:56 L wrote:On March 13 2010 00:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
L, why haven't you voted? I voted for me. I dunno why that doesn't count anymore. 4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game. Also On March 11 2010 09:31 citi.zen wrote:
And L, you still cannot vote for yourself. Not even once, let alone twice. Sorry mate. I can't even remember the last game to allow people to vote for themselves. Weren't you the one accusing everyone of not reading carefully? La-la-la... I know what the rule is, I just think its dumb seeing as it hasn't always been that way. I'll vote later, probably for cobbler. And incog, why would mafia rather you in office rather than me? I know I'm not mafia, I also know I'm generally more active than you, and I've also stated that if I'm getting a role that can't be checked that I'm basically going to kill myself to have a full set of roleclaims. So pretty much no matter what I am, I'm claiming with the intent to prove it shortly thereafter. You, by contrast, are not offering any such game breaking attempts, yet you think mafia is more scared of you than me. But then you admit that you probably have like 3-4 fishy people voting for you. So how does that add up? It doesn't. I've got a paper due in 1.5 hours and I haven't even started formatting it, so I'll be back in 5.5 hours after transit/class is factored in. Uh I didn't say mafia would rather have me in office than you. I said I think they'd prefer to have you in office. The reason is because, as you have already noticed, people are trying to discredit and doubt you. I'd think its much easier to discredit you than me, and thus the mafia might think that they can deal with you better in office than me. I'm not saying mafia will be scared of me, but that it will just be more difficult to get rid of me than you. It was a rhetorical question. Ie, mafia would much rather have you in office sitting around nothing nothing as a green. Your statement here essentially implies that you aren't going actually step up and lead and be held accountable for the results. Somehow I don't see how that's a quality you should have. We already know who the DT is.... You know who's claimed to be the DT. You know he didn't want you to know, and you have no evidence supporting anything beyond that. Once we have a rolecheck or two to confirm his identity, we'll know things for certain. Once again, I'm not green. Why do you keep saying that? Its just like everyone else saying you're DT. I'm not implying that I'm trying to avoid leading. Yay reading comprehension. I'm looking at it from the a likely mafia point of view. You've done a good job painting me green, which may keep me alive once I lose office. Its harder to throw dirt on me. It would be simpler just to kill me. Its just a lot easier to discredit someone who posts abrasively and unclearly. Like you. So just look carefully at the people who vote you then try to plant seeds of doubt. That is all. L seriously, who do you think of lynching if elected mayor? Knowing that Incog. is ALSO claiming blue completely changed my perspective. Because what are the odds that the three most veteran players ARE ALL BLUE?? Between L and Incog. I was torn--was one of them lying? I decided that between L and Incog, L was marginally more suspicious in my eyes, especially with sidesprang voting for him out of nowhere and only saying some stupid post, completely meaningless post: On March 12 2010 16:48 sidesprang wrote:This is my first post, its coming up really late. Sorry about that, FF13 messed up my schoolwork which then again messed up my mafiaposting. I've now read through all the posts, and i ended up voting for L. Beliving he is the best bet for pro-town player. Tho honestly i dont think im capable of spotting scummy behavior this early in the game :S When i analyzed players before i usualy was looking at clues because that was the easiest(altho im usualy wrong there to  ). so I decided to change my vote to Incog. I later saw Zona's post, and wondered if it was a bad idea to impulsively switch to Incog. But with only three minutes left to spare and it still being 5 vs. 7, I figured it didn't matter--L would win pardoner. It turned 9 o clock and I thought voting was over. But then at 9.01 BM changed his vote, and thinking this was all incredibly suspicious, I tried to change mine back...but it was too late. Short version: I switched my vote but thought it wouldn't matter. Sorry, doesn't work like that.
Did you not read the entirety of my post?
Short version: Voted for you ONLY because I was under the impression that Incog. was green. Realized that he claimed blue as well, decided I was less suspicious of him than you. Had second thoughts and tried to change back my vote when last minute sketchy voting happened by jeejee+BM, but alas it was too late.
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Just got back from work.
Jeejee is being lynched day 1 unless incog pardons.
I was originally going to off a coin flip of malongo/versatile, but since Jeejee was pming me (and i am assuming others) to do a vote swing last minute against L. I have decided to kill him for it.
Green or not, it seems like a very desperate move from a) a mafia or b) a really terrible player.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Post will have to wait till Incognito decides if he's going to pardon or not... mlah. Hope he returns soon...
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Night 1:
With a few last-minute vote changes, the results were in. BloodyC0bbler was to be elected Mayor, and Incognito, with the help of the vote-changers, had edged L out for the spot of Pardoner. However, as the time approached for the Mayor and Pardoner to assume their roles, BloodyC0bbler was nowhere to be found. The town, though at first slightly agitated, waited patiently, knowing that he would arrive shortly. And he did come, rushing in straight from the office to the cheers of the assembled crowd. BloodyC0bbler's first act of office was to announce the lynching of JeeJee. Incognito, vested with the power to save JeeJee's life, remained silent. With shouts of protests, JeeJee was led up to the gallows, and as the hangman tightened his noose, the crowd grew silent. With a sickening crack, JeeJee's body swung silently from the end of the noose, blown by the slightest breeze.
To protect the newly elected officials, two members of the town, Zona and CynanMachae, were chosen to become Bodyguards.
Slightly shaken, the crowd dispersed, and the residents of the town started back to each of their respective residencies, each and every one of them looking over their shoulders, waiting, just waiting, for the mafia to come.
And they will come, for the night is here.
JeeJee the townie is dead.
Zona and CynanMachae are now Bodyguards.
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Players with night actions, please get them into me as soon as possible so that I can streamline the next day post. Remember, detective actions will not be returned until the day post. You may change actions at anytime during the night. Night 1 ends at 9:00 p.m. EST on Saturday the 13th.
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Uh, why the hell would you lynch JeeJee.
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On March 13 2010 16:58 Fishball wrote:
Uh, why the hell would you lynch JeeJee.
I'm wondering this as well. Although any discussion of this choice now will be tinged by the fact he was town, I would still like to hear your thought process that led to this decision. What are the things you considered scummy (behind his last minute voting stuff?)
And also, what are your cases against your other possible lynch candidates Malongo and Versatile? Well, since it's day 1, probably not real cases, but what led you to consider them relatively more scummy than everyone else?
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On March 13 2010 17:09 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 16:58 Fishball wrote:
Uh, why the hell would you lynch JeeJee.
I'm wondering this as well. Although any discussion of this choice now will be tinged by the fact he was town, I would still like to hear your thought process that led to this decision. What are the things you considered scummy ( besides his last minute voting stuff?) And also, what are your cases against your other possible lynch candidates Malongo and Versatile? Well, since it's day 1, probably not real cases, but what led you to consider them relatively more scummy than everyone else?
Fixed typo. Yay post-WL sleepy posting.
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On March 13 2010 17:09 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 16:58 Fishball wrote:
Uh, why the hell would you lynch JeeJee.
I'm wondering this as well. Although any discussion of this choice now will be tinged by the fact he was town, I would still like to hear your thought process that led to this decision. What are the things you considered scummy (behind his last minute voting stuff?) And also, what are your cases against your other possible lynch candidates Malongo and Versatile? Well, since it's day 1, probably not real cases, but what led you to consider them relatively more scummy than everyone else?
The reason for jeejee is simple.
As town, attempting a very last minute vote swing is insanely stupid. Just doing it yourself can be retarded, but getting others on board is terrible. L, much like myself, has put himself out into the open far to much so early if he was mafia. Just as I have. Him attempting this last second vote although maybe not the shadiest of things, was insanely terrible play, and also shows he will push his own agenda before that of a town concensus. That behaviour is insanely counter productive.
My reasoning for versatile and malongo is just been a lack of substantial posting that I would expect out of both of them. Especially if they are town. Day 1 is usually hard to get red, so I am not sure on either of them, but just expect more.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Bodyguards being chosen, had totally forgotten about them (so tired...), will be in Night 1 post in a few after I roll the die.
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*boards up house, pulls out sniper broom (long going joke with a buddy, broom/papertowel roll)* THE MAFIA WILL NEVER GET ME.
Oh, and detectives, BRING IT OOOOOOOON!! You can get some too!?
-_-
My one release after another Terrible fucking day.
p.s. if I stop posting all of a sudden flamewheel and don't vote, please don't ban me from mafia, I might end up being arrested ;>>
Ex and her ex got their comeuppance, but I think I may of went a lil too far. And I don't think I'm done. Very distraught. Sorry fella's, I'll stop writing books bout my personal life.
=(
But I should be getting DT checked, so I'll enjoy the PMs.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Alright ~OpZ~, I understand. I hope things get better for you man.
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Few quick things: Reading through the post now, I'm surprised to find that I'm pardoner now. I'm looking at the tail end of my train. madnessman, BM. Why the sudden switch? Seriously L was a perfectly good candidate. We have about half a dozen paranoid townies scared of L?
Rofl at Zona and Cynan being BGs. Those two were on the top of my suspect list yesterday. Zona not so much now after your collection of large posts. Its nice to see some people suddenly get active. Cynan, I'd love to hear from you too.
Medics. So remember in one of my earliest posts I stated we would randomly choose who the medics protect from the BGs. The time has come to reveal your pms. They should all say First.
Which is all cool. However, the First BG on the list is Cynan. Someone who I have suspicions about. Moreso than Zona. Protecting him would not do much methinks, unless I'm wrong. (Remember, mafia BGs do not protect innocent officeholders) Which is why we need Cynan to speak up. What do you think about recent events?
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i've explained my switch 3 times already. this is the last time i'm explaining it.
I have FIFTEEN PMS from you Incognito.
L wanted to lynch me.
JeeJee made me realize that you can be in office too. I had figured that it was either going to be L as mayor with me dead, or L as pardoner where I have THIS pm from him last game:
Original Message:
"I'm not pardoning anyone. "
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Original Message:
if the town lynches me, would you pardon me?
Do I want a pardoner who would not save me?
He goes on to say that it would be a "gigantic waste of a day", but I disagree. With night hits, the voting on lynches and the like actually shift. Someone, given an extra day or two, can actually make a good case as to why they shouldn't be killed.
Lastly, I simply like you more than L this game(Incognito), and am happy with who we have in office. We have two level-headed veterans in office. L has been all over the place on hinting his role. BC says DT and you say blue.
DTs don't waste your checks on me
Medics don't bother protecting me
i'm green.
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dislike double-posting, but i'd like to call out our elected officials to update their archives...
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bloodycobbler lyncing jeejee is an legit action which we can't fault him for at all. A switch like that is such a stupid move if your pro-town(as your more likely end up dead, and we waste a lynch :S). Im wondering why he would trust incognitio, was it only incognitos posting or did he pm with incognito? Maybe incognito could shed some light on this matter.
If BC and incognito is both pro-town we should be in good shape atleast, and im eager to hear your plans
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Oh, yeah, I'd also like to admit that Incognito did send me a PM saying "First". I guess that means protect CynanMachae. If I were a medic, though, I would consider protecting L for a night to enable him to prove that he's blue/town.
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