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On November 17 2011 00:35 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 00:32 Drazerk wrote:On November 17 2011 00:30 Palmar wrote:On November 17 2011 00:10 hyshes wrote:On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:
I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.
Go! Eventhough i did like your analysis, i'm kinda confused on why you didn't just post an analysis on people you found suspicious. Don't you care on who you are doing analysis on? Or are you trying to avoid drawing a connection between you and some other persons? btw why are you voting coagulation and drazerk? You made a case against chaoser before voting for him, but not for those two. And nobody else made a case against them. prplhz told me Drazerk is scum Coag because he's always scum and he always lurks. And yeah, that's actually the case, generally it doesn't matter whose posts you read. I am pretty sure no one in this game has gone through everyone's filters and formed an opinion. Most people are likely focusing on somewhere between 2-5 people and mostly ignoring the rest of the game. So as an experiment I allowed random townies to pick which people I should focus on, because that gives the additional benefit of me not entering the analysis biased. I think it's working out well, again I am going to re-iterate: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12303438chaoser is scumYou all should be voting for him. + Show Spoiler +If you really want to know why I'm voting Drazerk and Coag, read through their filters. Love you too; ill make my own mind up about chaoser later. That's pretty damn scummy, anyone with half a brain should understand that I have proven without a doubt that chaoser is at least lying, and probably scum.
don't worry I have an Ace plan up my sleeves
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On November 17 2011 00:39 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 00:35 Palmar wrote:On November 17 2011 00:32 Drazerk wrote:On November 17 2011 00:30 Palmar wrote:On November 17 2011 00:10 hyshes wrote:On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:
I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.
Go! Eventhough i did like your analysis, i'm kinda confused on why you didn't just post an analysis on people you found suspicious. Don't you care on who you are doing analysis on? Or are you trying to avoid drawing a connection between you and some other persons? btw why are you voting coagulation and drazerk? You made a case against chaoser before voting for him, but not for those two. And nobody else made a case against them. prplhz told me Drazerk is scum Coag because he's always scum and he always lurks. And yeah, that's actually the case, generally it doesn't matter whose posts you read. I am pretty sure no one in this game has gone through everyone's filters and formed an opinion. Most people are likely focusing on somewhere between 2-5 people and mostly ignoring the rest of the game. So as an experiment I allowed random townies to pick which people I should focus on, because that gives the additional benefit of me not entering the analysis biased. I think it's working out well, again I am going to re-iterate: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12303438chaoser is scumYou all should be voting for him. + Show Spoiler +If you really want to know why I'm voting Drazerk and Coag, read through their filters. Love you too; ill make my own mind up about chaoser later. That's pretty damn scummy, anyone with half a brain should understand that I have proven without a doubt that chaoser is at least lying, and probably scum. don't worry I have an Ace plan up my sleeves
You keep piling on reasons why you should be lynched.
And if that is a softclaim, I'm punching you in the stomach.
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On November 17 2011 00:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 00:10 hyshes wrote:On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:
I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.
Go! Eventhough i did like your analysis, i'm kinda confused on why you didn't just post an analysis on people you found suspicious. Don't you care on who you are doing analysis on? Or are you trying to avoid drawing a connection between you and some other persons? btw why are you voting coagulation and drazerk? You made a case against chaoser before voting for him, but not for those two. And nobody else made a case against them. prplhz told me Drazerk is scum Coag because he's always scum and he always lurks. And yeah, that's actually the case, generally it doesn't matter whose posts you read. I am pretty sure no one in this game has gone through everyone's filters and formed an opinion. Most people are likely focusing on somewhere between 2-5 people and mostly ignoring the rest of the game. So as an experiment I allowed random townies to pick which people I should focus on, because that gives the additional benefit of me not entering the analysis biased. I think it's working out well, again I am going to re-iterate: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12303438chaoser is scumYou all should be voting for him. + Show Spoiler +If you really want to know why I'm voting Drazerk and Coag, read through their filters.
the coag thing i get now, it's the lurking/inactive part.
But i filterd drazrk and i couldn't find anything suspicious. Can you atleast give me a general direction what i should be looking for?
#Vote: chaoser
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OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?
Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.
##Vote: Forumite
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Thing is, he's throwing around one-liners. Drazerk generally at least tries to look town when he's town, but maybe this is the latest development in town play, a lot of players (myself, for example) get a bit cocky once they're over their newbie phase.
However, we know Drazerk isn't dumb. The only attack he's actually made in the game is against a newbie, which is a safe attack (attacking a veteran as scum is risky, cause they will call you out), and he wasn't completely convinced by my case on chaoser.
I haven't seen such an easy day 1 lynch in a long time, probably since I gave myself away in XLV by incorrectly quoting a pm.
the chaoser lynch is only sensible.
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On November 17 2011 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?
Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.
##Vote: Forumite
Which case is bullshit mr. Nisani201?
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Palmar can you answer my question please? You agree that chaoser is probably scum. Do you think the same of bum?
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Sorry, I missed it WBG
I came to the same conclusion about chaoser as you, for different reasons. Which is always good because it tells us that he's setting off alarm bells for multiple people in multiple ways. I actually just went back and read your case, and I see now that you picked out the same post as I did. 
About bumatlarge, I don't like the fact that he doubts chaoser is scum, there is enough evidence on the table to hang chaoser. No matter what chaoser is, he's not vanilla town, which is what he claimed. I do like his vote on Nisani201 though, but nisani is sadly brilliant at getting lynched as town.
I guess I would have to re-read him more to form a conclusion. I would say that I simply don't have a good read on bum yet.
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On November 16 2011 23:50 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 22:48 Forumite wrote:On November 16 2011 22:09 xsksc wrote:On November 16 2011 21:42 Forumite wrote:On November 15 2011 14:13 xsksc wrote:
This is my first proper mafia game, just finished a newbie mini-game the other day.
GLHF Everyone!:D Just found this little gem. Looks like a typical newbie scumpost. His filter suggest the same. FoS: xsksc Sorry, what? I posted this before the game even got going, I was breaking the ice and being friendly, what is scummy about it? It IS my first real mafia game, I'm excited about it. Several others have said it's their first game too. Can you enlighten me, why do you think it's a newbie scumpost? No, the game had allready started. You confirmed getting your role first of all players, then when people got going with discussing policy, you dropped the above post. During 2 hours people had been talking about policy, and even dropped a few weird posts that have since been called out, so the game had definetly started. And about which part is scummy about it? Everything! You excuse yourself as a new player, thereby lowering our expectations on your contribution in the game, making way for future lurking. It´s an empty icebreaker, full of forced enthusiasm. The message of the post is "I´m trying to help but will probably fail". Is that the kind of player we are going to rely on in this game, or someone who will be left until the end because noone will bother to shoot him? That's a pretty silly assumption, my post said nothing of the sort. Why does "This is my first big game" become "I'm trying to help but will probably fail"? What makes you think that because I'm new to this sort of thing, I'm just gonna be a hindrance? Sure, I don't have the same experience as some of the veterans here, but I can still be just as useful. I'm not using being new as an excuse to "lurk", I've actually posted a decent ammount already. You really seem to be over-analyzing a simple hello post, I don't know what else to say.
25% of your posts are used for defending against my FoS, so I wouldn´t call it having posted a decent amount. The posts you have is mostly policy, and a FoS on sabin010, something echoed by too many other players for my taste. You are among the players I might have put on a lurker list.
Fine, I´ll give you the benefit of doubt, let´s say you don´t want to use being new as an excuse not to contribute. If so, can you give us/me your opinion of the game so far? Is there anyone apart from the usual suspects (chaoser, sabin010 and kenpachi) that you think needs our attention, or that you want to, for whatever reason, see more posts from? I want to know who you think is acting weird, but not who you think is a Town player.
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On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No.
I have no idea how Coag plays, but he's a well=known name around here.
You justify not voting Coag because he is well known and "if he's not scum then scum will want to shoot him" because he is a good player.
And yet you somehow think I'm a good lynch day one? How does that make sense? You want to give Coag a free pass for day 1 but apparently that policy of "he's good+scum will probably shoot him night 1" doesn't apply to me?
Yep, I remember. I'm just saying that, since his meta is inconsistent, (and the sample size is tiny) it's not particularly telling of anything.
For now, he's just another lurker.
When called out on not giving him a free pass you back off immediately, clearly being very wishy washy about it.
This added in with your other weird logic...
I didn't suggest everyone would do it. I just said having multiple people do it would create a lot of chaos. How is that a logical leap?
You clearly imply that my doing it would lead to other people doing it:
What I don't want people doing is what chaoser is doing; just going out there and throwing votes left and right without actually thinking about them. Sure, you can do it if you want, but it's not going to be pretty. The thread will be a mess and you'll have multiple people OMGUSing because they're taking votes.
I mean look at had happened already. People are OMGUSing you because you're voting them. It makes things way more complicated than they should be. We play mafia a certain way; we deal with one lynch at a time. This game should be no different IMO, we just in the end use the multilynch system to lynch two or three people.
You say this as if you believe people OMGUS voting on me is wrong and yet you OMGUS voted me off my strategy which you think doesn't work (it does). How does that make any sense?
@Palmer
there is enough evidence on the table to hang chaoser
??? You have enough evidence from literally only quoting one of my posts saying that I should know sinani's meta (I don't) and that sinani is town:
Like he's not pro enough as scum to realize that doing something like that with his meta as scum is excellent play, and thus the simplest explanation is that sinani206 is town.
chaoser should have understood this, yet he directly OMGUS votes sinani206, even gloating about the fact he's voting multiple people.
and then say:
This is chaoser soft-claiming a power-role. No reason to do it unless you're scum.
??? what? How does saying I'm a green townie=power role? And how does it make sense for a mafia to claim a power role in thread?
if anything you should be voting for forumite...
FoS LSB
I´m not following the case on Sabin010, is it only the confusion about him playing a lot IRL but none here, or something more?
FoS: xsksc
and people talk about me being all over the place (I'm not)
Go read his cases on LSB and xsksc...they're laughable...
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##Vote Forumite
I'm not okey with you not responding to a direct vote against you.
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On November 17 2011 01:23 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:Coag is also a pretty good player, so if he's scum, he's capable of lurking and surviving. For the same reason he doesn't make a good day 1 lynch because if he's not scum, then scum will want to shoot him. On November 16 2011 16:26 sinani206 wrote:On November 16 2011 13:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
to clarify again, each person go for whoever they think is scummiest. That doesn't mean all of us go for the same person. This is completely stupid because some people have more than one read at a time. Why focus when you can divide (your attention) and conquer? No. You justify not voting Coag because he is well known and "if he's not scum then scum will want to shoot him" because he is a good player. And yet you somehow think I'm a good lynch day one? How does that make sense? You want to give Coag a free pass for day 1 but apparently that policy of "he's good+scum will probably shoot him night 1" doesn't apply to me? Show nested quote +Yep, I remember. I'm just saying that, since his meta is inconsistent, (and the sample size is tiny) it's not particularly telling of anything.
For now, he's just another lurker. When called out on not giving him a free pass you back off immediately, clearly being very wishy washy about it. This added in with your other weird logic... Show nested quote +I didn't suggest everyone would do it. I just said having multiple people do it would create a lot of chaos. How is that a logical leap? You clearly imply that my doing it would lead to other people doing it: Show nested quote +What I don't want people doing is what chaoser is doing; just going out there and throwing votes left and right without actually thinking about them. Sure, you can do it if you want, but it's not going to be pretty. The thread will be a mess and you'll have multiple people OMGUSing because they're taking votes. Show nested quote +I mean look at had happened already. People are OMGUSing you because you're voting them. It makes things way more complicated than they should be. We play mafia a certain way; we deal with one lynch at a time. This game should be no different IMO, we just in the end use the multilynch system to lynch two or three people.
You say this as if you believe people OMGUS voting on me is wrong and yet you OMGUS voted me off my strategy which you think doesn't work (it does). How does that make any sense? @Palmer ??? You have enough evidence from literally only quoting one of my posts saying that I should know sinani's meta (I don't) and that sinani is town: Show nested quote +Like he's not pro enough as scum to realize that doing something like that with his meta as scum is excellent play, and thus the simplest explanation is that sinani206 is town.
chaoser should have understood this, yet he directly OMGUS votes sinani206, even gloating about the fact he's voting multiple people. and then say: Show nested quote +This is chaoser soft-claiming a power-role. No reason to do it unless you're scum. ??? what? How does saying I'm a green townie=power role? And how does it make sense for a mafia to claim a power role in thread? if anything you should be voting for forumite... Show nested quote +I´m not following the case on Sabin010, is it only the confusion about him playing a lot IRL but none here, or something more? and people talk about me being all over the place (I'm not) Go read his cases on LSB and xsksc...they're laughable...
Why not vote forumite if you think he is scummy?
You and I are still voting for sinani, do you think he is still the best option at the moment?
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On November 16 2011 02:42 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 02:32 bumatlarge wrote:Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit. We will be lynching however many scummy people we can find on the particular day. We are restricting ourselves when we don't have a clue as to what our boundaries are. Nisani has posted complete fluff and none of it shows any effort in actually heling town. I don't think the new people are brain-dead, so unless the specifically ask about something, don't use them as an excuse to post asinine shit. Oh, hi kibbibit ##Vote Nisani201 LAL LAL LAL LAL ##Vote: Forumite
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On November 17 2011 01:30 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2011 02:42 chaoser wrote:On November 16 2011 02:32 bumatlarge wrote:Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit. We will be lynching however many scummy people we can find on the particular day. We are restricting ourselves when we don't have a clue as to what our boundaries are. Nisani has posted complete fluff and none of it shows any effort in actually heling town. I don't think the new people are brain-dead, so unless the specifically ask about something, don't use them as an excuse to post asinine shit. Oh, hi kibbibit ##Vote Nisani201 LAL LAL LAL LAL ##Vote: Forumite
Oh right, forgot about the multi lynch thing. at least I lasted about a day before saying something dumb.
What do you think about sinani though? are you of the opinion everyone else is that he will just look scummy no matter what? and therefore shouldnt be lynched?
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Yeah, chaoser is scum. He called my vote OMGUS. He doesn't remember who he is voting for. Rofl. This is EXACTLY why people should be focusing on one or, at most, two targets.
Chaoser the difference between you and Coagulation is that you are not a lurker right now. You are scum.
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Oh my bad I missed what Greymist said. But the rest still stands ^^
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##Vote: chaoser
That is all
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On November 17 2011 01:24 risk.nuke wrote:
##Vote Forumite
I'm not okey with you not responding to a direct vote against you.
Please clarify, do you agree with the other votes and vote for that reason, or do you think me not responding is the scummy part?
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On November 17 2011 01:32 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 01:30 chaoser wrote:On November 16 2011 02:42 chaoser wrote:On November 16 2011 02:32 bumatlarge wrote:Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit. We will be lynching however many scummy people we can find on the particular day. We are restricting ourselves when we don't have a clue as to what our boundaries are. Nisani has posted complete fluff and none of it shows any effort in actually heling town. I don't think the new people are brain-dead, so unless the specifically ask about something, don't use them as an excuse to post asinine shit. Oh, hi kibbibit ##Vote Nisani201 LAL LAL LAL LAL ##Vote: Forumite Oh right, forgot about the multi lynch thing. at least I lasted about a day before saying something dumb. What do you think about sinani though? are you of the opinion everyone else is that he will just look scummy no matter what? and therefore shouldnt be lynched?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=128360
Here are his posts. 8 posts since the start of the game. All one liners. All completely useless. Is he going to be helping town in the near future? Doubtful. Do I want him around late game? No. Having multivote is like having a town majority controlled vigi shot. Using it on sinani would be favorable for town.
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