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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
November 16 2011 11:07 GMT
#441
On November 16 2011 18:23 prplhz wrote:
Yea I like Kenpachi as a lynch too

##Vote Kenpachi


So you were a fervent defender of only lynching 'scummy' lurkers. And now you suddenly decide to vote for kenpachi without giving any reason Could you please detail a bit more on why you like kenpachi as a vote, other than the fact that he did not post much ? His townie claim basically does not mean anything

Keeping an eyes on lurkers is good, but i would wait to the end on day 1(the last 24 hours) before voting for one of them. It seems to me that blanket voting this early on day one can only lead us divide our attention. Voting for someone whenever he says something strange without trying to pressure him more/confirm him as scum is a great way to lynch a lot of townies and seems to be a good strategy for the mafia side, but not that great for town ( obviously).

Bumatlarge espescially has been trying to push the town into lynching as many people as possible. Almost each one of his post include a quote on how we should lynch every single player. Spoiler below shows some example from this filter : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=31777

+ Show Spoiler +


On November 16 2011 10:36 bumatlarge wrote:

Why would you FoS when you can just vote them. Don't be pansies. Realized I didn't properly vote. I doubt I will ever take my vote off of kenpachi, it's not that I don't like him, but he is not an asset to the town at the moment, or the forseeable future. Nisani has proceeded to call me dumb or scum, but that doesn't change the fact that his fluffy posts stick out, so it will stay there until he remedies it.

##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Nisani201


And this


Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: Sabin010


Bad vibes also this -

On November 16 2011 00:22 Sabin010 wrote:
I have seen to many games where we lose our cop or doc first day and end up wasting our time as the mob picks us off.


On November 16 2011 01:06 Sabin010 wrote:
This is my first game and im not sure of all the terms. I thought scum, mob, and mafia are the same.



Is why LAL is bad. What possible reason would cause mafia to post this instead of town. By all means keep up the detective work and checking out all the inconsistencies, but use a little sense. This definetely contradicts itself, and it could very well be an intentional lie, but even that doesn't make him scum. The bad strategy reason tht DCL brought up is actually something to go on.

You are pushing your luck by trying to find lies a day into the game. Use that energy to filter a suspicious person instead and get a general vibe, and see if their future posts push you one way or the other.

If there wasn't a majority lynch in play, I'd put my vote on everyone, and start taking off people who don't register as scum. That's about how many people I think should be lynched each day.


On November 16 2011 02:32 bumatlarge wrote:
Next person that mentions LAL is getting a vote placed on them. Seriously enough with the useless shit.

We will be lynching however many scummy people we can find on the particular day. We are restricting ourselves when we don't have a clue as to what our boundaries are.

Nisani has posted complete fluff and none of it shows any effort in actually heling town. I don't think the new people are brain-dead, so unless the specifically ask about something, don't use them as an excuse to post asinine shit.

Oh, hi kibbibit

##Vote Nisani201


On November 16 2011 12:37 bumatlarge wrote:
We got 48 hours from now, right? This time tomorrow we need to look at the votes and see where people stand. I'm honestly surprised how few votes there are, you get as many as you want, a decent townie can take advantage of this. There is no comparing how scummy certain players are to others, you just lynch them or you don't. I guess it's still early, and I'm still fishing for reads here.




Oh and surprise, the only post not advocating to lynch the entire town is to defend chaoser, the ONLY person that agreed with the 'vote for everyone' strategy, after he got pressured by WBG. And by defending him, he explains than chaoser should stop doing just what he was advocating the town to do i.e: vote for everyone that seems scummy.

On November 16 2011 12:50 bumatlarge wrote:
Welcome to WBG logic. But that doesn't make what he says untrue, I think chaoser should focus his attention more and prove singleton cases rather then babble on about everything. Doubt he's scum though.


So you spend all your post explaining we should vote for anyone who seems scummy, and you defend chaoser that was doing exactly that by saying "he should focus his attention more". How is that not a huge contradiction ?

FoS bumatlarge.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 16 2011 12:01 GMT
#442
On November 16 2011 15:52 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
@Drazerk
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote: Sabin010


Bad vibes also this -

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 00:22 Sabin010 wrote:
I have seen to many games where we lose our cop or doc first day and end up wasting our time as the mob picks us off.


Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 01:06 Sabin010 wrote:
This is my first game and im not sure of all the terms. I thought scum, mob, and mafia are the same.

On November 16 2011 09:06 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 09:03 sinani206 wrote:
wtf

##Vote: chaoser


Your not going to lurk the first day, come out of no where and then vote chaoser without reason.

FoS sinani206

And his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=107918
I, err, what? You FoS somebody for doing exactly what you're doing, and you vote somebody because of "bad vibes" and what you interpret to be lying about the number of games they have played? Can you please explain to me how any of that is good town play? Also, can you elaborate on your own reasoning for voting? If not, I think I see a vote for you in the near future.

@Kenpachi
You seem to be following the thread, are you planning to make any contributions at some point? I don't see how posting random one-liners is going to get us anywhere. Please either start contributing, or can the one-liners and just get mod-killed for inactivity.

@risk.nuke
Last game I played with you you were extremely aggressive early on. This game you haven't attacked anyone yet, or even directly addressed someone. Any particular reason why you were active and aggressive last time, and are thus far being passive this game?

I got agressive for two reasons, one I was 100% skrammen was town, I thought it likely I were going to get shot since I spoke up. So I went all out on toad who I thought 100% sure mafia thinking I could get the medic to save me.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 16 2011 12:29 GMT
#443
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:

I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.

Go!
Computer says mafia
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 12:31 GMT
#444
On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:

I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.

Go!


chaoser
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
November 16 2011 12:33 GMT
#445
On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:

I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.

Go!


What do you think about prplhz?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 16 2011 12:36 GMT
#446
##Vote Coagulation

I'm reading prplhz and chaoser atm
Computer says mafia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 16 2011 12:36 GMT
#447
On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:

I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.

Go!
Tyrran
:3
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 16 2011 12:37 GMT
#448
Formatting

##Vote: Coagulation
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 16 2011 12:37 GMT
#449
okay, prplhz, tyrran and chaoser I'll do.
Computer says mafia
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 12:41 GMT
#450
Realized I hadn't done this yet -.-

##Vote: Kenpachi
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 16 2011 12:42 GMT
#451
On November 15 2011 14:13 xsksc wrote:
This is my first proper mafia game, just finished a newbie mini-game the other day.
GLHF Everyone!:D

Just found this little gem. Looks like a typical newbie scumpost. His filter suggest the same.

FoS: xsksc
:3
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 16 2011 12:49 GMT
#452
Actually, I just read Chaoser's filter

##Unvote: Coagulation
##Vote: chaoser


So here's my reasoning chaoser needs to be lynched.

First off, we should establish that chaoser is both analytical and critical as town. His play this game starkly contrasts that idea. He is throwing accusations and votes both left and right without actually doing much to back them up. Now, this leads us to think what would make chaoser throw his votes around like this.

The only sensible reason to do that as town is to apply pressure, but when you are the one being pressured it's actually not beneficial to do this, because no one is going to listen to you anyway. The optimal town play in this situation is to try as hard as you can to build reputation for people to listen to you for. However, chaoser seems not even slightly interested in raising his status in the game, feeling pretty comfortable being not listened to at all. Something only scum is interested in.


On November 16 2011 09:15 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 09:07 sinani206 wrote:
On November 16 2011 09:06 Drazerk wrote:
On November 16 2011 09:03 sinani206 wrote:
wtf

##Vote: chaoser


Your not going to lurk the first day, come out of no where and then vote chaoser without reason.

FoS sinani206



His posts this game are nothing like what I've seem out of him before and even if I hadn't played with him before, the posts are straight up scummy.


1) Deal with my posts being different. This use of "your posts are different" meta is so stupid I'd gladly post completely differently every single game to kill it. Can't tell if you're mafia or stupid >_>

Also while the manner in which I post is different, the reasoning behind my posts isn't, (XXXIX)

2) How are my posts "straight up scummy?"

##Vote: Sinani206

I'm so happy I get to vote multiple people


This one is particularly interesting. First off, we have to understand how sinani206 works to see if this is legit. Remember, sinani206 hasn't got the greatest track record as town or scum, but he does have his tells like everyone else. This little vote he placed on chaoser seems to be pretty genuine. Like he's not pro enough as scum to realize that doing something like that with his meta as scum is excellent play, and thus the simplest explanation is that sinani206 is town.

chaoser should have understood this, yet he directly OMGUS votes sinani206, even gloating about the fact he's voting multiple people.

So yes, I think chaoser would be an excellent lynch today.

Also, just for future reference:


On November 15 2011 22:23 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 13:29 Kenpachi wrote:
real long day ok.
hi i am Kenpachi and i am a Townie
welcome to TL mafia to those who are just starting and i hope you have a good time here.


We are the 99%
I am also green townie <3
LAL is stupid


This is chaoser soft-claiming a power-role. No reason to do it unless you're scum.

If you can't understand how he's soft-claiming a power role, well... you deserve to be punched.

So yeah, let's kill that guy.
Computer says mafia
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
November 16 2011 13:00 GMT
#453
On November 16 2011 11:39 GreYMisT wrote:
WBG, you also said that we should lynch perferably 3 people today, but focus on only one target during the eairler portions. Don't you think its going to be difficult to decide when we have all decided to lynch someone, and then ignore everything they say while we work out who else to kill? While i feel the same that we should keep focused on one person per day, I think that it would better serve to keep the multi lynch in reserve unless we can all agree to use it.


I think it's perfectly plausible to take new information into account while we focus on another player. If the first guy we focus checks out (for the time being), he should be an active part of the next focus. I think the more intimately they have to be involved in the lynch process, the more chances the scum gets to fuck up. Any focus targets that go idle after their focus should be re-evaluated sometime before nightfall.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 16 2011 13:00 GMT
#454
On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:

I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.

Go!

wherebugsgo
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 13:01 GMT
#455
On November 16 2011 22:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:

I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.

Go!

wherebugsgo


Your late to the party but I am surprised no one said him as well
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 16 2011 13:02 GMT
#456
On November 16 2011 22:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:

I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.

Go!

wherebugsgo

Oh derp, too late, probably a worse choice than I could have made anyway
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 16 2011 13:03 GMT
#457
On November 16 2011 22:01 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 22:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote:
hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you:

I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment.

Go!

wherebugsgo


Your late to the party but I am surprised no one said him as well

My intial reaction was to pick someone who had an opinion that differed with mine recently, but I think this would have been better on a more established player, for instance Forumite or DCLXVI
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 16 2011 13:06 GMT
#458
Go vote chaoser, he's scum.
Computer says mafia
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 16 2011 13:07 GMT
#459
You all realize that Palmar is just manipulating you, right?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 13:07 GMT
#460
On November 16 2011 22:07 prplhz wrote:
You all realize that Palmar is just manipulating you, right?


That's how Palmar plays I just wanted analysis on chaoser
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